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Re: RAIL AUSTRALIA V25(p17) [I,Gp] - New line images

Postby cairnswk on Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:14 pm

Rail lines or dots for this map?
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Re: RAIL AUSTRALIA V25(p17) [I,Gp] - Poll for Rail Lines

Postby barterer2002 on Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:25 pm

I kind of like the looks of the dots-seems more Australian. I'll admit that my first glance was confusing but I quickly figured out which stations go with which line. I'm looking forward to playing it Cairns.
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Re: RAIL AUSTRALIA V25(p17) [I,Gp] - Poll for Rail Lines

Postby gimil on Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:04 am

I have two minor points cairns mate:

1. I can't remeber but have I mentioned I don't really like the title all that much? It seems a little to distracting and doesn't fit the style of the map in my opinion.

2. I am not much of a fan of the white lines on the HUD. They look pixalated. I don't know, but maybe you could try something different instead of white lines please?

I know I haven't really given any potential solutions, but you got that creative juice so I am sure you will figure it out :)
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Re: RAIL AUSTRALIA V25(p17) [I,Gp] - Poll for Rail Lines

Postby cairnswk on Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:22 pm

I'm the only one who voted so far?????
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Re: RAIL AUSTRALIA V25(p17) [I,Gp] - Poll for Rail Lines

Postby cairnswk on Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:23 pm

barterer2002 wrote:I kind of like the looks of the dots-seems more Australian. I'll admit that my first glance was confusing but I quickly figured out which stations go with which line. I'm looking forward to playing it Cairns.

Barterer2002, could you cast your vote for the rail lines please in the poll.
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Re: RAIL AUSTRALIA V25(p17) [I,Gp] - Poll for Rail Lines

Postby gimil on Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:11 am

gimil wrote:I have two minor points cairns mate:

1. I can't remeber but have I mentioned I don't really like the title all that much? It seems a little to distracting and doesn't fit the style of the map in my opinion.

2. I am not much of a fan of the white lines on the HUD. They look pixalated. I don't know, but maybe you could try something different instead of white lines please?

I know I haven't really given any potential solutions, but you got that creative juice so I am sure you will figure it out :)


Did you miss this carins? :)
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Re: RAIL AUSTRALIA V25(p17) [I,Gp] - Poll for Rail Lines

Postby cairnswk on Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:12 pm

gimil wrote:
gimil wrote:I have two minor points cairns mate:

1. I can't remeber but have I mentioned I don't really like the title all that much? It seems a little to distracting and doesn't fit the style of the map in my opinion.

2. I am not much of a fan of the white lines on the HUD. They look pixalated. I don't know, but maybe you could try something different instead of white lines please?

I know I haven't really given any potential solutions, but you got that creative juice so I am sure you will figure it out :)


Did you miss this carins? :)

No....not ready to answer it yet.
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Postby iancanton on Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:10 am

iancanton wrote:regarding the bonuses: i think the bonus for nsw rail ought to be more than the ones for qrail and wa because nsw rail is more connected. its position, which virtually shields qrail from attack, means that it’s much more likely to be the victim itself of a successful attack that breaks the bonus. of the three, wa looks to be by far the easiest to hold, not being near either of the other two large continents, and therefore deserves the least bonus.

the state bonuses still haven't been adjusted in relation to each other.

rail australia, by accident or design, strongly encourages a classic-type strategy and not a strategy like the other rail maps. this is because the state railway bonuses (analagous to the classic continents) are obvious and highlighted, whereas the long-distance routes are barely visible unless u look closely; this applies to both the map and the legend. the long-distance bonuses are also poor enough that i can see indian pacific, for example, being totally ignored: the +4 for indian pacific might as well not be there.

using indian pacific as an example, i'd like to see the i in the grey square box appear, maybe in white rather than black, in a coloured circle instead. if a circle doesn't work, then it's possible to use a coloured square, but with the letter representing the state railway removed from all cities except adelaide (the colour of the roof is enough to show the identity of the state railway which serves a city).

ian. :)
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Re: Re:

Postby cairnswk on Sun Oct 05, 2008 2:20 pm

iancanton wrote:
iancanton wrote:regarding the bonuses: i think the bonus for nsw rail ought to be more than the ones for qrail and wa because nsw rail is more connected. its position, which virtually shields qrail from attack, means that it’s much more likely to be the victim itself of a successful attack that breaks the bonus. of the three, wa looks to be by far the easiest to hold, not being near either of the other two large continents, and therefore deserves the least bonus.

the state bonuses still haven't been adjusted in relation to each other.

This i will examine.

rail australia, by accident or design, strongly encourages a classic-type strategy and not a strategy like the other rail maps. this is because the state railway bonuses (analagous to the classic continents) are obvious and highlighted, whereas the long-distance routes are barely visible unless u look closely; this applies to both the map and the legend. the long-distance bonuses are also poor enough that i can see indian pacific, for example, being totally ignored: the +4 for indian pacific might as well not be there.

using indian pacific as an example, i'd like to see the i in the grey square box appear, maybe in white rather than black, in a coloured circle instead. if a circle doesn't work, then it's possible to use a coloured square, but with the letter representing the state railway removed from all cities except adelaide (the colour of the roof is enough to show the identity of the state railway which serves a city).

ian. :)

by design.
I don't agree that they shouldn't be there. They offer another was of obtaining bonuses for the map; as do the mineral-port ones. Whether they could be increased to be worthwhile is debateable.
I am reluctant to muck with the symbols, as these were worked out between oaktown and myself to enable color-blind to play this map. you mucking in with this all this would be disastrous for that. so to this, i have to say no ian. as oaktown pointed out, black on a color is the preferred option of reading something for c/b folk.
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Re: RAIL AUSTRALIA V25(p17) [I,Gp] - Poll for Rail Lines

Postby TaCktiX on Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:28 pm

I don't think ian is advocating increasing the bonuses. I think he's noting that the difficulty in FINDING those bonuses without BOB is high enough that most casual players will never notice it at all. I agree with making them a little bit easier to pick up, even if we need to add yet another symbol to the map.
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Re: RAIL AUSTRALIA V25(p17) [I,Gp] - Poll for Rail Lines

Postby cairnswk on Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:06 am

TaCktiX wrote:I don't think ian is advocating increasing the bonuses. I think he's noting that the difficulty in FINDING those bonuses without BOB is high enough that most casual players will never notice it at all. I agree with making them a little bit easier to pick up, even if we need to add yet another symbol to the map.

so after all this time you're gonna tryr and get some more symbols on the map. Are you bananas???
It's not going to happen.
There is quite enough on there now, and beside the letters are already there for the long distance trains.
Please interpret appropriately. :)
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Re: RAIL AUSTRALIA V25(p17) [I,Gp] - New line images

Postby cairnswk on Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:50 am

Version 25 with armies

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Re: RAIL AUSTRALIA V25(p17) [I,Gp] - 6 days left for R/L Poll

Postby cairnswk on Tue Oct 07, 2008 3:57 pm

6 days left for voting. :)
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Re: RAIL AUSTRALIA V25(p17) [I,Gp] - 6 days left for R/L Poll

Postby trk1994 on Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:19 pm

I say the dots should stay. Each country is unique in it's own way. Otherwise riding one railroad would be like riding them all. Good luck here. You have my vote.
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Re: RAIL AUSTRALIA V25(p17) [I,Gp] - 6 days left for R/L Poll

Postby cairnswk on Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:47 am

trk1994 wrote:I say the dots should stay. Each country is unique in it's own way. Otherwise riding one railroad would be like riding them all. Good luck here. You have my vote.

Thanks trk1994 :)
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Re: RAIL AUSTRALIA V25(p17) [I,Gp] - 6 days left for R/L Poll

Postby Night Strike on Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:10 pm

I voted for the dots.
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Re: RAIL AUSTRALIA V25(p17) [I,Gp] - 6 days left for R/L Poll

Postby cairnswk on Thu Oct 09, 2008 6:45 am

Night Strike wrote:I voted for the dots.

Kewl...thanks Night Strike :)
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Re: RAIL AUSTRALIA V25(p17) [I,Gp] - New line images

Postby cairnswk on Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:57 pm

Looks like the dots will be the winner, unless there is a big swing in the last two days.

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Re: RAIL AUSTRALIA V25(p17) [I,Gp]

Postby cairnswk on Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:38 am

clear winner is the dots for the rail lines.
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Re: RAIL AUSTRALIA V25(p17) [I,Gp]

Postby gimil on Thu Oct 16, 2008 5:02 am

Excellent, I love the dots :)

Do you want the poll to be taken down cairns? Also can I see my concerns addressed please? so that we can try and get a stamp out here.
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Re: RAIL AUSTRALIA V25(p17) [I,Gp]

Postby cairnswk on Thu Oct 16, 2008 5:51 am

gimil wrote:Excellent, I love the dots :)

Do you want the poll to be taken down cairns? Also can I see my concerns addressed please? so that we can try and get a stamp out here.


Yes take the poll down please gimil. Good to see you back again. :)
Yes i will try and work on this over the weekend.
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Re: RAIL AUSTRALIA V25(p17) [I,Gp]

Postby gimil on Thu Oct 16, 2008 5:54 am

cairnswk wrote:
gimil wrote:Excellent, I love the dots :)

Do you want the poll to be taken down cairns? Also can I see my concerns addressed please? so that we can try and get a stamp out here.


Yes take the poll down please gimil. Good to see you back again. :)
Yes i will try and work on this over the weekend.


I am still not fully back, but I am trying to give you guys as much attention as I reasonablwe can :)
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Re: RAIL AUSTRALIA V25(p17) [I,Gp]

Postby gimil on Thu Oct 16, 2008 5:54 am

Do you want "Design Dots" or Rail Lines on this map

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1. Design Dots (as per the aboriginal dots in the existing Version 25
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2. Proper rail lines similar to Rail USA and Rail Europe
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Re: RAIL AUSTRALIA V25(p17) [I,Gp]

Postby cairnswk on Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:36 am

Current Version 25.

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Re: RAIL AUSTRALIA V26

Postby cairnswk on Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:39 am

OK moving onto V26

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