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Re: Oasis game ending too soon.
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Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:31 pmby wcaclimbing
yep.
If you are holding all three parts of the Grand Oasis when you start your next turn, you win.
Thats exactly how its supposed to work, no bugs there.
Re: Oasis game ending too soon.
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Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:10 pmby pepperonibread
Wikipedia says it's oases.
Re: Oasis game ending too soon.
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Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:13 pmby campkev
It looks like I need to submit a bug report on my reading skills. I could have sworn it said that you had to hold it for three turns. But I looked at the rules again and I completely misread it. D@#%it. I could have won that game if I had read it right
Re: Oasis game ending too soon.
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Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:37 amby Marshes
Fwiw, even though you were originally confused about how to end the game. I do agree the game ends to quick, specially in freestyle.
The neutral armies should be beefed up in the middle imho or you should have to be able to hold them for 1 full round not 10seconds of one round.
Great map though.
Re: Oasis game ending too soon.
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Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:49 amby Thezzaruz
Marshes wrote: I do agree the game ends to quick, specially in freestyle.
Victory conditions and the freestyle setting (especially in speed games) ain't a good match of formats. It's just something one needs to know.
Re: Oasis game ending too soon.
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Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:40 amby gimil
Map issues/suggestions should be discussed in the map development thread which can be found in the final forge sub forum in the map foundry.
Here is a link to the thread for OASIS which is where I encourage discussion to continue
Oasis Development ThreadI will flag this up and see if cicerio or a global mod will move it over to the foundry.
cheers,
gimil
Re: Oasis game ending too soon.
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Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:42 pmby cicero
gimil wrote:I will flag this up and see if cicerio or a global mod will move it over to the foundry
This thread, started in
Suggestions & Bug Reports moved to Foundry Discussion forum for merging with the quenched Oasis thread in
Map Foundry - Final Forge subforum.
Cicero
PS - Who's this 'cicerio' chap ?
Re: Oasis [Quenched]
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Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:19 amby gimil
Just merged a thread (Oasis game ending too soon.) in here that was started in suggestions and bug reports. About 9 posts long.
[merged]
Re: Oasis [Quenched]
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Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:30 amby wcaclimbing
so much work for the mods.
Re: Oasis [Quenched]
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Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:19 amby paulk
I have not read the whole thread so I have no idea if this has been suggested before.
But I wish that desert territories occupied by your armies, if they only had 1 on them would become neutral 1's instead.
That way you could not leave anyone left in the desert, because they would simply die. And the -1 for this and that territory would actually mean something, even when you only have 1 left.
Maybe just maybe, the desert territories starting with 2, 3 or 4 also could build back to that?
Thats my 2 cents.
Good map otherwise.
Re: Oasis MAPBUG
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Sat Jan 03, 2009 11:00 pmby thepurpleyeti
Game # 3907471
Units in the dessert are not decaying as described, instead, a -1 army penaly appears at the beginning of the turn, but before units are awarded for territories and oasis bonuses. this is resulting in dessert terts not having any ill effect on their holders at all.
Re: Oasis [Quenched]
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Sat Jan 03, 2009 11:15 pmby The Neon Peon
That is because the units are ones.
Re: Oasis [Quenched]
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Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:44 pmby oaktown
I'm going to recommend that the BETA tag be removed from this map... the concerns above have more to do with CC's gameplay engine (1 army terits can't lose 1, victory conditions can be exploited in freestyle games, etc.) than with the features of this map.
Re: Oasis [Quenched]
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Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:48 pmby wcaclimbing
oaktown wrote:I'm going to recommend that the BETA tag be removed from this map... the concerns above have more to do with CC's gameplay engine (1 army terits can't lose 1, victory conditions can be exploited in freestyle games, etc.) than with the features of this map.
That would be nice.
No more beta.
Re: Oasis [Quenched]
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Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:29 pmby n00blet
wcaclimbing wrote:oaktown wrote:I'm going to recommend that the BETA tag be removed from this map... the concerns above have more to do with CC's gameplay engine (1 army terits can't lose 1, victory conditions can be exploited in freestyle games, etc.) than with the features of this map.
That would be nice.
No more beta.
AND IT IS SO!
Re: Oasis [Quenched]
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Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:55 pmby Theguyoverthere
How come Oasis of Loyalty (an oasis with 5 neutrals on it) is 7 nuetrals away from the grand oases, rather thn the 4 that all the other ones are?
Re: Oasis [Quenched]
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Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:28 pmby wcaclimbing
Theguyoverthere wrote:How come Oasis of Loyalty (an oasis with 5 neutrals on it) is 7 nuetrals away from the grand oases, rather thn the 4 that all the other ones are?
Hey.... I never noticed that.
Its the only 5 Oasis with more than one space from the center.
Interesting....
That won't be changed, Its just how the map was made.
It doesn't hurt anything to keep it how it is.
Re: Oasis [Quenched]
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Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:15 pmby hendrr
The Negative Bonus doesn't work the way it should. Instead of reducing the number of troops, the Negative Bonuses are taken at the beginning, then the Positive Bonuses are taken. It should be the other way around. If you have more negatives than positives, then you don't get any armies for deployment.
-hendrr
Re: Oasis [Quenched]
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Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:25 pmby the.killing.44
hendrr wrote:The Negative Bonus doesn't work the way it should. Instead of reducing the number of troops, the Negative Bonuses are taken at the beginning, then the Positive Bonuses are taken. It should be the other way around. If you have more negatives than positives, then you don't get any armies for deployment.
-hendrr
It's not that the actual troop drop is negative, it's that the # of armies on the actual desert territories gets a -1 until it's at 1.
.44
Re: Oasis [Quenched]
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Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:23 amby hendrr
It still doesn't work (see Game 4462102 for more details). I placed armies on desert and still got credit.
-hendrr
Re: Oasis [Quenched]
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Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:21 amby n00blet
Reaadddddd when someone replies to you!
That is how it's supposed to work.
Re: Oasis [Quenched]
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Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:53 pmby hendrr
n00blet wrote:Reaadddddd when someone replies to you!
That is how it's supposed to work.
I am saying in Game 4462102, the armies any player placed in the desert AND at the Grand Oasis (1, 2 or 3)
never declined. I placed a barrier of 4 armies in each desert spot around the Grand Oasis and there was still 4 left where the other players hadn't attacked my armies.
-hendrr
Re: Oasis [Quenched]
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Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:09 pmby Timminz
the troops get taken away when you click "Begin turn"
Re: Oasis [Quenched]
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Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:34 pmby Thezzaruz
Timminz wrote:the troops get taken away when you click "Begin turn"
Unless you obtain the objective when clicking "Begin turn" ofc.