mibi wrote:ed, your smugness will not help this map. as you know i rarely comment on the gameplay of other peoples maps, as i figure there are other people with a better handle on it than i. but i know a thing or two about graphics, and the cohesion and execution of a project or product.
you are more than welcome to ignore my valid criticisms, as you have this whole thread, but ultimately the map will suffer and CC will be no better if you continue to slide through with a C+ product. It's not a race or a competition to see who has the most maps. If it was, i'd slap some countries around with color and 30 second legend and call it day, but the more maps there are on CC, the better the maps NEED to be.
Look at the Iceland map, it breathes frigid, cold, clean air. I am not a fan of the Egypt series, but the columns and symbols really put me in the time period. Cairns always excels as added the touched that draw the player into the map. High Seas, same deal, it could be a map across some old sea captains desk. Even maps my members are are not great artists have a style to suit the substance. Madagascar for example, there's no images or icons, but the colors, text show me Africa's east coast. San Marino and basically all the maps coming out feel like they deserve to be there.
I know you have taken Haiti this far, but I have to ask you, why? You have given Haiti no love in terms of design or culture or aesthetics. So why did you feel the need to put in many hours of work for this small country?
I'll start off with a bit of niceness. My previous sentence implies there will be a bit of nastiness later because, in fact, there will be. oh well.
I definitely respect your thoughts and opinions on graphics because you do this for a living. ok I guess I didn't have that much niceness. I do disagree with you that my map totally doesn't reflect Haiti because the colours I've used are definitely Haiti.
Now I guess we're on the bad bit of the post. If you don't like reading stuff like that then please stop reading.
I really hate it when people talk out of their ass. I'm not someone who harps on r e s p e c t all the time, but the best way to describe it is that it's quite disrespectful and it doesn't reflect well on the speaker. I'll start with your "smugness" comment. It could mean that you're implying that I feel superior in some way with regard to graphical ability which I think we would all agree is quite laughable (in fact it would lead me to believe you were an idiot which would mean I would feel superior so I guess I would be smug). It would also reflect poorly on your skills of perception. I don't think this is the meaning you were using. I think you were calling me complacent which I find to be quite silly. I've met the standards of the foundry in terms of graphics. It was never my goal to make an astounding looking map so of course I'm going to be satisfied with my map. I would be an idiot to believe my map is a graphical masterpiece. As I've said elsewhere, I'm not here to make great looking maps. I'm here to make maps that are fun to play (which is why I'm not doing graphics on any more maps (if I do any more)). I guess because you're a graphics guy you feel that every map should be excellent and you can't understand why someone would make a map just because it'd be fun to play. I believe I've already said that in this thread as a response to one of your posts yet it apparently didn't sink in with you.
Oh, wait. I have more nice things to say. I really do appreciate your comments because if you didn't care, you wouldn't say anything. I think you're taking a crusade against the slightly above average and trying to get them to be quite good. This is definitely commendable but I don't see anything wrong with a few maps not exceeding the graphical requirements by more than a nose or two.
Let's get back to the bad. Your implication that I'm participating in a race to have the most maps is quite ludicrous. Again I find that you're talking out of your ass. Saying that my map doesn't deserve to be here is quite funny so thanks for that (me being smug!).
I had fun responding to your post and I really do appreciate you taking an interest, but I still have to say that I've met the guidelines (which isn't what you're going on about) and I feel I've got colours that, in a subtle way, reflect 'Haiti'. Yea it's not Circus Maximus in terms of graphic quality (and you're not saying it should be) but I totally disagree that it doesn't fit in with the majority of the other region based maps. I'm satisfied or complacent or smug.