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Re: Conquer 4. Page 1 + 7 [I]

Postby bryguy on Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:05 pm

whitestazn88 wrote:animations were cool. i'd like them back

it really clears up the rules

sfhbballnut wrote:looks pretty self explanatory to me, glad this is getting some attention again



i have to agree with white here. Not only were they cool, but i cant understand it for the life of myself otherwise
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Re: Conquer 4. Page 1 + 7 [I]

Postby yeti_c on Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:29 am

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whitestazn88 wrote:animations were cool. i'd like them back

it really clears up the rules

sfhbballnut wrote:looks pretty self explanatory to me, glad this is getting some attention again



i have to agree with white here. Not only were they cool, but i cant understand it for the life of myself otherwise


Animations will return - gimil is going to do them once the rules are set - it takes a bit of time to do the animations - so it's better to only do them when the rest of the image is set.

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Re: Conquer 4. Page 1 + 7 [I]

Postby yeti_c on Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:30 am

Kaplowitz wrote:I think it should say "+2" rather than "=2" on the bonuses.


Disagree -> I prefer = and not equals...

Although I think the not equals should be in a different colour.

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Re: Conquer 4. Page 1 + 7 [I]

Postby yeti_c on Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:32 am

TaCktiX wrote:The last +4 bonus example, and the last rule 2 example seem redundant. I'd say drop the upper one and keep the lower one.


Agreed.

So that you understand what Tack is saying Gimil...

In the upper bonus bit you have the 7 in a row = 4 example.

We reckon remove that from there - and then you have it in the lower example...

Also - this gives you the space to align the ='s signs correctly as they look funny not in a nicely ordered column.

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Re: Conquer 4. Page 1 + 7 [I]

Postby gimil on Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:47 am

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Re: Conquer 4. Page 1 + 7 [I]

Postby gimil on Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:37 pm

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Re: Conquer 4. Page 1 + 7 [I]

Postby cicero on Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:43 pm

I think including animation in 'rule 1' completely confuses the issue ...
Just animate 'rule 2'.
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Re: Conquer 4. Page 1 + 7 [I]

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:10 pm

I agree. Though I think you should attempt to make it also clear without animation, as I know a number of users have animation turned off.


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Postby gimil on Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:41 am

AndyDufresne wrote:I agree. Though I think you should attempt to make it also clear without animation, as I know a number of users have animation turned off.


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The only person I know that turns off animations is a monkey called andy :P

Ill remove the rule 1 animation and change the animation so that the first frame shows the white dots, so that those who dont have animations still see whats what with the first frame which it will stop at if you dont use animaions.
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Re: Conquer 4. Page 1 + 7 [I]

Postby yeti_c on Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:04 am

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AndyDufresne wrote:I agree. Though I think you should attempt to make it also clear without animation, as I know a number of users have animation turned off.


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The only person I know that turns off animations is a monkey called andy :P

Ill remove the rule 1 animation and change the animation so that the first frame shows the white dots, so that those who dont have animations still see whats what with the first frame which it will stop at if you dont use animaions.


Yeah - agreed...

Having Rule1 animated confused things - especially for =20!!

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Re: Conquer 4. Page 1 + 7 [I]

Postby gimil on Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:46 am

alright guys thanks, ill probably update a little later when I get home, any other concerns.
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Re: Conquer 4. Page 1 + 7 [I]

Postby gimil on Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:03 pm

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Re: Conquer 4. Page 1 + 8 [I]

Postby cairnswk on Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:15 pm

Gimil...looking very nice now....'cept....can you space the legend out now so that it fills an imaginary rectangle whose borders are in line with the projections from the major side of the board. e.g. move the whole legend down so that bonuses lines up with top of Conquer 4, and then space out the legend a little more so that the bottom of the attack diagram is in line with the bottom of the letters...this is really picky stuff but will give you good appearance for executed correctly...
All this providing you are finished with the legend changes.
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Re: Conquer 4. Page 1 + 8 [I]

Postby yeti_c on Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:18 pm

cairnswk wrote:Gimil...looking very nice now....'cept....can you space the legend out now so that it fills an imaginary rectangle whose borders are in line with the projections from the major side of the board. e.g. move the whole legend down so that bonuses lines up with top of Conquer 4, and then space out the legend a little more so that the bottom of the attack diagram is in line with the bottom of the letters...this is really picky stuff but will give you good appearance for executed correctly...
All this providing you are finished with the legend changes.


Yeah - agreed- just a little shuffle down should just about do it...

I reckon Legend is done - and is pretty conclusive - I don't think we can take it any further - although I'm sure we'll still get people asking about the rules anyways!!

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Re: Conquer 4. Page 1 + 8 [I]

Postby gimil on Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:45 pm

I could probably move the legends down and just cut a few px off the top. An objections to that?
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Postby cairnswk on Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:01 pm

gimil wrote:I could probably move the legends down and just cut a few px off the top. An objections to that?

None, just needs aligning for neatness sake.
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Postby gimil on Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:32 pm

Here you go cairns hope your happy now :)

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Postby cicero on Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:18 pm

Gimil

Looking nigh on perfect ...
And just when you (and I) thought I'd be happy ...

yeti_c wrote:I reckon Legend is done - and is pretty conclusive - I don't think we can take it any further - although I'm sure we'll still get people asking about the rules anyways!!

I do find myself reconsidering the legend text:

(a) "BONUSES"
(b) "Two Conquer 4s may share one space"
(c) "Two sets may NOT share more than one space"

would perhaps be better as:

(a)
"BONUSES
Conquer four spaces in a row"

(b) "two rows may share one space"
(c) "two rows may not share more than one space"

... ?

I know this steps back from naming a set/row of four as a "Conquer 4", but this is fairly heavily implied from the map title anyway.
I feel the above wording may be better from the user point of view as highlighted by yeti.
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Postby gimil on Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:22 pm

Ok ill do it but promise me it will be the last :P
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Postby gimil on Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:53 pm

Done those changes, quick one so no animation for now:

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Postby cicero on Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:27 am

gimil wrote:Ok ill do it but promise me it will be the last :P

Make me feel better - tell me it's because you (and others ?) actually think this idea is clearer, not because I am moany fussy individual?
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Re: Conquer 4. Page 1 + 8 [I]

Postby gimil on Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:30 am

cicero wrote:
gimil wrote:Ok ill do it but promise me it will be the last :P

Make me feel better - tell me it's because you (and others ?) actually think this idea is clearer, not because I am moany fussy individual?
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Postby yeti_c on Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:26 am

It's a shame the new wording knocks the layout off what was previously spot on.

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Postby gimil on Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:38 am

yeti_c wrote:It's a shame the new wording knocks the layout off what was previously spot on.

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Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:34 pm

As long as the legend is clear without animation too. :D Animation shouldn't be a requirement to play a map. :D


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