Land and Sea [Quenched]

[Incandenza]

And since the part about Land and Sea do not connect is what folks are failing to read maybe that should be first, or somehow more prominent?

This strikes me as a terrific suggestion. Relatively speaking, that datum is more important than that about the wrapping terits (which should be second) and MS (which should be last, it has the least impact on overall gameplay)... then again, my sympathy level for people who play new maps and don't take thirty seconds to read and digest the legend (especially on a reasonably straightforward map such as this) is notoriously low...

[edbeard]

I'm fine with the map as is but shouldn't the map have come out of Beta after gimil's proposed changes? like I said don't matter to me but seems strange

[Gilligan]

Black arrows = much better

[ender516]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but "Arctic" is misspelled "Artic" on the map depicting the bonuses. Despite that, I do believe I will try this map soon. It looks sharp and well thought out.

[edbeard]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but "Arctic" is misspelled "Artic" on the map depicting the bonuses. Despite that, I do believe I will try this map soon. It looks sharp and well thought out.

thanks for the post and pointing that out. actually, it is correct on the uploaded map but I've just neglected to update the first post with the latest version. That's done now. Hope you enjoy the map.

[gimil]

Does this work for everyone then?

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[ender516]

Looks about right to me. I should tell you I have played this map: 1 game, 1 win! I may retire from it undefeated...

[cthoenen1]

I am 1 for 2 on this map. I really like it!

I think the Mediterranean has been white both times though, 'cause I never noticed it was there until i read this thread!

[zeros]

Hi folks! I'm not sure if this thread is dead but I'll write in anyway.

I'm considering a return to CC very soon, and have just been browsing the maps to see what's been happening for the last year. This map looked interesting, but at first glance, I was not sure if NA1 and AT3 are allowed to attack each other (since there is no arrow connecting these two territories in spite of the other arrows nearby). So I decided on visiting this 'Discussion topic' for some enlightenment.

After twenty minutes, I've read through loads of the posts but have not found a definitive answer (in spite of seeing several references along the lines of 'arrows should make it obvious').

So I'll ask a straightforward question, to which I hope to get a straightforward 'YES' or 'NO'..............

Can NA1 and AT3 attack each other?

[natty dread]

no

[zeros]

Thanks Natty. Prompt and to the point as ever. Much appreciated.

[BigFuzzyBunny]

I think the continents need a thicker stroke around them (Except for where the passages to the sea are). It is very difficult to tell where you can and cannot cross on this map. Just because regions are touching (which on most maps means you can go that way) doesn't mean you can on this one. There are no real indication that you can't - the arrows when you can cross are not enough.

[TheForgivenOne]

Moved to the Foundry

[gimil]

I think the continents need a thicker stroke around them (Except for where the passages to the sea are). It is very difficult to tell where you can and cannot cross on this map. Just because regions are touching (which on most maps means you can go that way) doesn't mean you can on this one. There are no real indication that you can't - the arrows when you can cross are not enough.

This topic has been merged with the land and sea development thread.

[merged]

[gimil]

Hi BigFizzyBunny,

If you read the legends it clearly states that land and sea territories can only be crossed via the arrows present on the map. It is the first rule in the legends and makes it quite clear that land and sea regions are not connect just because they touch. Hope this clear things up for you.


Cheers,
gimil

[BigFuzzyBunny]

That is true, but I still think there needs to be more of a distinction between the lines you can and cannot cross. Even if a thicker stroke was added around the continents (except where you can jump into the sea) it would make it vastly more playable. Your call obviously, but I am surprised no one else found this frustrating.