Indian Empire [Quenched]

[MrBenn]

You two should take your schmoozing to Off-Topics

Meanwhile, I think this map should be fine to head over to the Forge... Do I move it over, or call Andy to come and do it? (I'm out of touch with the Main Foundry )

/tannoy for Andy...

[AndyDufresne]

Final Forge

---The Indian Empire Map has reached the 'Final Forge' Stage. The map has passed rigorous gameplay and graphics examinations, and major concerns have been addressed. If you have any other concerns, please make your voice heard. As long as there is still discussion or posts that have yet to be commented on, the map will remain in Final Forge until said discussion has reached the conclusion that the map has reached its final and polished version. After a reasonable amount of time has been given for final comment, and after the completion of the XML, the map will be deemed finished with the 'Foundry Brand' of approval and will be submitted for live play.

Post questions and concerns if any.

[nagerous]

Congrats Oaktown!

Great to see an India map make FF, I've been waiting for this a long time.

[LED ZEPPELINER]

YaY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cairnswk]

Congrats oaktown.
all questions raised answered well.

[oaktown]

wow, I have two maps in the Forge at the same time... so this is what happens when you resign from being a CA, eh cairnswk?

I'll get on wrapping the pages in and showing coordinates again.

[a.sub]

[oaktown]

Click image to enlarge.

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Large and small maps, with the wrap between the pages.

Files for coordinate checks...
xml: http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/30/ ... /india.xml
Large: http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r76/ ... dia19L.jpg
Small: http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r76/ ... dia19S.jpg

[the.killing.44]

Ooph … I could've sworn I had already checked this. I'll do it later today, so'z.

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[a.sub]

ok i think the only thing left is a new poll, because i think the level of the effect should be changed
i say post 5 of varying degrees of the warp then let us vote
if its not too much trouble

[oaktown]

ok i think the only thing left is a new poll, because i think the level of the effect should be changed
i say post 5 of varying degrees of the warp then let us vote
if its not too much trouble

It actually does require some work.

Anyway, what is a poll going to get us? 32 people will vote, one of the five suggested options will win with 9 votes, which means 23 people will disapprove of the final. Foundry polls are useless.

What is useful is descriptive feedback. The first attempt at showing the page wrap was too strong, so now I've made it more subtle. Nobody has mentioned any problems with the current wrap. If it's too strong, or not strong enough, tell me by how much and why and I can fix it.

But the current poll can certainly go... I'll PM somebody.

[the.killing.44]

okay, by my eye I only see a couple (quasi-)issues re: co-ords, with my responses:

1. The numbers overlap the background names in multiple places
   
   Should be fine. The key makes it rather obvious …
2. In a couple of places (most notably Mysore, Bejapoor, and Doab) the numbers go over the RR tracks.
   
   Ehh, there're a couple easy spots to change, but some you can leave. I think you can move the word "Mysore" down and left, moving the co-ord up and left above the name. For Doab, you can leave the name as is but move the co-ord down so only the 888 nicks it.
   Then a couple graphic nitpicks:
3. Could you scoot the portrait of Q. Victoria a bit right if it's not too much trouble?
4. On the "E" of "Bengal Presidency," there's a white stroke around.

Those last two are crazy nitpicks, but the co-ords — should be fine as is, those fixes would only improve upon an already-stampable map.

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[oaktown]

[*]On the "E" of "Bengal Presidency," there's a white stroke around.[/list]

would that be the E in the page fold? becauser there are three Es in Bengal Presidency, all of which have a light glow to make them easier to read (I outer glow just about everything for contrast). The one in the fold shows the most because of the shadow - I can clean that up a bit.

[the.killing.44]

Yeah it's the fold one. By the way (I meant to edit this in): I only suggested you change the co-ords on the RR tracks because there have been some players who are confused by the Subway on the NYC map. Like I said, it's stampable as is if you don't want to change.

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[oaktown]

By the way (I meant to edit this in): I only suggested you change the co-ords on the RR tracks because there have been some players who are confused by the Subway on the NYC map.

In some places I put the coordinates on the tracks or across the tracks from the territory title on purpose to show that the tracks are within the territory, and not a border.

I agree that the coordinates should not touch tracks in the NYC map, but that is because the tracks represent attack routes on that map. There are no distinct station territories on this map, and I hope that there is nothing that would suggest the a player that they can jump their attacks along rail lines.

Changes coming up shortly...

[oaktown]

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Alright, here's what i've done...

• Moved the queen over to the right a few pixels
• Lightened the stroke around any text that falls in the crease of the book
• Moved the Doab army count left and down a nudge
• Moved the Mysore army count to the left
• In Mysore, Doab, and Bajapoor I have lightened the railroad tracks a bit where the numbers will hit them; same effect as an army circle in that the background will interfere less with the count, but hopefully it is not so much that it will be distracting. It looks odd on the images above because there is no count, but if you look at Bajapoor below you'll see that it's not really detectable with counts.

XML: http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/30/ ... /india.xml
Large: http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r76/ ... dia20L.jpg
Small: http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r76/ ... dia20S.jpg

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[the.killing.44]

Good enough for me:

Post any concerns if you find any, cause I can't!

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[MrBenn]

Poll Results

Victoria should be referred to as...
You may select 1 option

Queen Victoria... 18...49%
Empress Victoria... 2...5%
Avoid the problem altogether and just write "Her Majesty's"... 4...11%
Somebody honestly cares? Silly Brit wankers. 13...35%
Total votes : 37

[AndyDufresne]

Any additional thoughts on all this?

And oaktown, I'm assuming that in your last post, those are the final links, yes?


--Andy

[the.killing.44]

Q

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[AndyDufresne]

Beta - Quenching

---The Final Forge period has concluded for the Indian Empire Map. All objections have had their time. The Foundry and I hereby brand this map with the Foundry Brand. Let it be known that this map is now ready for BETA Play. After an extended period of time in BETA and once all quirks and issues have been resolved, the map will be put into Full Play (barring any Lack vetoes).

Conquer Club, enjoy!

--Andy

[AndyDufresne]

Map Medals will be given out once the map is removed from BETA.


--Andy

[Don Juaquin]

Are the rail bonuses working??

Round 1, I dropped Bombay-Calcutta and no bonus

1st time on the map and so it is the first time I've seen how important Calcutta is.

[Bruceswar]

Are the rail bonuses working??

Round 1, I dropped Bombay-Calcutta and no bonus

1st time on the map and so it is the first time I've seen how important Calcutta is.

I have yet to play the map, but I Assume you need to hold all the rail space in between those 2 cities to get the bonus.

[Don Juaquin]

"plus three sub bonuses for holding rail line between cities... the two southern lines cross multiple regions, and the Calcutta-Delhi line runs through the heart of a huge region that will be all but impossible to hold - thus the mini-bonuses to encourage activity in the center."

DOH (forhead slap)

Perhaps the sub bonus could be clearer on the map?? I don't know, like 3 different rail lines and using them on the legend? ie
========= 6
+++++++++ 4
::::::::::::: 4