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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE V8(P6) - Gallipoli inset added

Postby cairnswk on Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:07 pm

ZeakCytho wrote:
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ZeakCytho wrote:Could you maybe put the words British Egypt and Constantinople in the insert where their respecitve arrows come from? And on the main map, maybe make the box around the insert a bit thicker?

Zeak, can we revisit that one later....i just tried putting those words in there...from Alexandria fits...
but Constantinople doesn't (nicely anyways) <- and it looks like a complete double up
so i'd like to revisit that later again please.


Sure thing. I can bug you about this once you're in the main foundry if you want :lol:

If they don't fit nicely, then I think the map is better without them.


OK.

Mr. Squirrel wrote:I'm thinking, why not instead of having separate bonuses for Britain, France, and Italy, you give one large blanket bonus for all of their colonies. Because right now, holding all three will yield a bonus of eight while you only have to protect three borders. I think that is a bit over powered. Instead just call the bonus "European colonies" or something like that and give it a bonus of 6 or so.


Yes i waas thinking along those lines also, and will think more on that one. Thanks for the suggestion, and of you have any more thoughts on the configuration, let me know. :)
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE V8(P6) - Gallipoli inset added

Postby Juan_Bottom on Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:46 pm

Took a minute to load, but I'm diggin the update Carnswk!
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE V8(P6) - Gallipoli inset added

Postby MrBenn on Sun Aug 24, 2008 5:54 pm

This one is definitely in need of a stamp...
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE V8(P6) - Gallipoli inset added

Postby Juan_Bottom on Sun Aug 24, 2008 5:56 pm

I agree MrBenn, My only quibble is the bonuses for the Italian, French, and H. of Mecca terts.
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE V8(P6) - Gallipoli inset added

Postby cairnswk on Sun Aug 24, 2008 6:21 pm

Juan_Bottom wrote:Took a minute to load, but I'm diggin the update Carnswk!

Nice

Juan_Bottom wrote:I agree MrBenn, My only quibble is the bonuses for the Italian, French, and H. of Mecca terts.

Attending to that later. Thanks :)

MrBenn wrote:This one is definitely in need of a stamp...
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All you need to do now is wait to be moved... ;-)

And thanks for that stamp also. :)
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V8(P6) - Gallipoli inset added

Postby whitestazn88 on Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:51 am

i like the inset, but i'd prefer the top area of the inset to reflect the top part of the map that it is in...

ie. the inset has the top that has the whole point at it, much like the regular map, but i think it should just have the slanted top that is the same as where it is in the map
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V9

Postby cairnswk on Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:24 pm

whitestazn88 wrote:i like the inset, but i'd prefer the top area of the inset to reflect the top part of the map that it is in...

ie. the inset has the top that has the whole point at it, much like the regular map, but i think it should just have the slanted top that is the same as where it is in the map


How's this?

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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V9(P8) - Inset adjusted

Postby ZeakCytho on Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:27 pm

I preferred the insert from the last version, without the curve from the map border cutting part off. Also, is it just me or does it look more pixely in this new version than before?
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE Poll for inset top

Postby cairnswk on Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:34 pm

Option A - for the top of the inset -> Ottoman Dome
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Option B - for the top of the inset -> Slanted top as per map
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V9(P8) - Inset adjusted

Postby cairnswk on Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:00 pm

ZeakCytho wrote:I preferred the insert from the last version, without the curve from the map border cutting part off. Also, is it just me or does it look more pixely in this new version than before?

Zeak...yes it is more pixely, but i will fix that...place your preference for top of inset in the poll, thanks :)
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V9(P8) - Inset adjusted

Postby ZeakCytho on Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:04 pm

cairnswk wrote:
ZeakCytho wrote:I preferred the insert from the last version, without the curve from the map border cutting part off. Also, is it just me or does it look more pixely in this new version than before?

Zeak...yes it is more pixely, but i will fix that...place your preference for top of inset in the poll, thanks :)


Done :)

Btw, you put the same image up twice. I think the bottom image needs to change ;)
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V9(P8) - Inset adjusted

Postby cairnswk on Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:08 pm

ZeakCytho wrote:
cairnswk wrote:....
Zeak...yes it is more pixely, but i will fix that...place your preference for top of inset in the poll, thanks :)

Done :)
Btw, you put the same image up twice. I think the bottom image needs to change ;)

Fixed. thanks, i did that one page 1 too, but caught that....didn't catch this oops :)
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] Poll (P1 or P8) for top of inset

Postby Juan_Bottom on Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:34 am

I could care less about the inset.... looks fine either way, so no vote from me.... = )
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] Poll (P1 or P8) for top of inset

Postby lt_oddball on Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:56 am

I don't think giving Italy and France a +1bonus IMMEDIATELY for having that ONE territory is such a good idea.

For a player to control Great Britain or Russia , it would take at least 5 rounds depending on competition. All that time having NO extra bonus.
Whereas the Italian and French "player" (both close together in the side of the British "player" ONLY(!) can hold it and expand and make it impossible for the british player to collect/conquer his zone. Thereby giving advantage to players around british empire zone to expand without worries.

And what can or did France /Italy do in that Ottoman sphere , really ?

So please leave that +1 bonus out .


Also another unfairness; ALL bonuszones are a wellconnected collection of territories EXCEPT Kuwait of the British empire.
To make up for this obvious imbalance you should give a direct seaconnection between Kuwait and Aden.
You may even consider giving a direct seaconnection between Br. Somaliland and Sudan (thereby avoiding the need to conquer France an Italy from the earliest onset).
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] Poll (P1 or P8) for top of inset

Postby cairnswk on Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:31 am

lt_oddball wrote:I don't think giving Italy and France a +1bonus IMMEDIATELY for having that ONE territory is such a good idea.

For a player to control Great Britain or Russia , it would take at least 5 rounds depending on competition. All that time having NO extra bonus.
Whereas the Italian and French "player" (both close together in the side of the British "player" ONLY(!) can hold it and expand and make it impossible for the british player to collect/conquer his zone. Thereby giving advantage to players around british empire zone to expand without worries.

And what can or did France /Italy do in that Ottoman sphere , really ?

So please leave that +1 bonus out .


Also another unfairness; ALL bonuszones are a wellconnected collection of territories EXCEPT Kuwait of the British empire.
To make up for this obvious imbalance you should give a direct seaconnection between Kuwait and Aden.
You may even consider giving a direct seaconnection between Br. Somaliland and Sudan (thereby avoiding the need to conquer France an Italy from the earliest onset).


Thanks for your comments It_oddball, i will consider your thoughts on the bonuses.
in all fairness the map does say that british ports * connect to each other. :)
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] Poll (P1 or P8) for top of inset

Postby lt_oddball on Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:48 am

cairnswk wrote:in all fairness the map does say that british ports * connect to each other. :)


I didnot see the message of the stars...aha..ok , so that is covered :mrgreen:


But..that means that Cyprus cannot attack or be attacked directly from south turkey or Beirut ? hmmmm :|
And doesn't that port system mean that someone just having conquered Kuwait from Basrah can jump to Akbah and then onwards to Jeruzalem ?
hmmmm [-X ..
I don't like this lightning speed... :oops:
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] Poll (P1 or P8) for top of inset

Postby Qwert on Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:05 pm

I dont know who is your Names Advisor,but you have many names mistakes-
Anadolu
Gelibolu
Dayr az Zog
Konya-antep
Kutais-Batum
Elizavetpol
Crimea-Kuban
AKbah(do you mean Aqaba)
Siyas(i can not find these names)
Izmir(these is modern tyrkish name for Smyrna)
Constantinople(here you have location mistake,because Contantinople cover Part of euproe and asia)
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I belive that you want to all names been in english translation,not to have mix,but i must say that you here dont have mix of names,you have mistake names-who dont supose to be in these area.
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] Poll (P1 or P8) for top of inset

Postby cairnswk on Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:24 pm

qwert wrote:I dont know who is your Names Advisor,but you have many names mistakes-
Anadolu
Gelibolu
Dayr az Zog
Konya-antep
Kutais-Batum
Elizavetpol
Crimea-Kuban
AKbah(do you mean Aqaba)
Siyas(i can not find these names)
Izmir(these is modern tyrkish name for Smyrna)
Constantinople(here you have location mistake,because Contantinople cover Part of euproe and asia)
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I belive that you want to all names been in english translation,not to have mix,but i must say that you here dont have mix of names,you have mistake names-who dont supose to be in these area.


Yes thanks Qwert. If you look at the first map, you will see names i put there from English map at the time.

This is post viewtopic.php?f=241&t=59540&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=30#p1521266
where cdkutusu (who is turkish) advised of the different names.

I don't want this to get into a battle over naming rights, but am happy to accept (most of) cdkutusu's names on this since it is his country.
Elizavetpol -> this is only one region on old maps, Elizavetpol-Baku on my map is two regions.

I am aware that Constantinople spans two continents, but for reasons of space on the map Qwert, it can only be one here.

If you have some link of "authority" that shows these names should be what you state they should be, please advise me.
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] Poll (P1 or P8) for top of inset

Postby whitestazn88 on Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:04 pm

voted for my suggestion
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] Poll (P1 or P8) for top of inset

Postby wcaclimbing on Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:22 pm

here you go, good luck with the map.
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Now one of the CAs needs to move this thread to the main foundry.
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] Poll (P1 or P8) for top of inset

Postby Qwert on Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:55 pm

Yes thanks Qwert. If you look at the first map, you will see names i put there from English map at the time.

This is post viewtopic.php?f=241&t=59540&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=30#p1521266
where cdkutusu (who is turkish) advised of the different names.

I don't want this to get into a battle over naming rights, but am happy to accept (most of) cdkutusu's names on this since it is his country.
Elizavetpol -> this is only one region on old maps, Elizavetpol-Baku on my map is two regions.

I am aware that Constantinople spans two continents, but for reasons of space on the map Qwert, it can only be one here.

If you have some link of "authority" that shows these names should be what you state they should be, please advise me.

I whas to say that you have mix english and turkish all over map,and that why is not correct,you must use english translation for all map,because these is not only Ottoman Empire,you have parts of africa,europe and asia.
If you want i can give you more apropriate names.
Cdkutus is from turkey,but can not be two mix of turkey terittory-half in english and half in turkey .
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] Poll (P1 or P8) for top of inset

Postby cairnswk on Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:05 pm

wcaclimbing wrote:here you go, good luck with the map.
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Now one of the CAs needs to move this thread to the main foundry.


Ooh...2 ideas stamps (there is one back on P7)...i wonder what that could mean? ;)
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] Poll (P1 or P8) for top of inset

Postby oaktown on Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:53 pm

cairnswk wrote:Ooh...2 ideas stamps (there is one back on P7)...i wonder what that could mean? ;)

means gimil and I have to do a better job of keeping up with what needs to be moved!
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] Poll (P1 or P8) for top of inset

Postby wcaclimbing on Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:48 am

cairnswk wrote:
wcaclimbing wrote:here you go, good luck with the map.
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Now one of the CAs needs to move this thread to the main foundry.


Ooh...2 ideas stamps (there is one back on P7)...i wonder what that could mean? ;)


wait.... what?

#-o
lol. I forgot that this map already had one.
O well. you get to be the first map Ideas Stamped twice.
At least my stamp got the thread moved.
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] Poll (P1 or P8) for top of inset

Postby Juan_Bottom on Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:49 am

:lol:

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