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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] Poll (P1 or P8) for top of inset

Postby Qwert on Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:14 am

Wcaclimbing you dont tell me that you also can give Idea Stamp.


Anadolu(Asia minor, comprising most of modern Turkey)-----------------------Adrianople
Gelibolu--------Gallipoli
Dayr az Zog-----Deir ez Zor
Konya-antep-----Konya
Kutais-Batum----Kutaisi
AKbah-----------Sinai
Izmir-----------Smyrna

Now these names is most apropriated for map.
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] Poll (P1 or P8) for top of inset

Postby cairnswk on Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:37 pm

qwert wrote:Wcaclimbing you dont tell me that you also can give Idea Stamp.


Anadolu(Asia minor, comprising most of modern Turkey)-----------------------Adrianople
Gelibolu--------Gallipoli
Dayr az Zog-----Deir ez Zor
Konya-antep-----Konya
Kutais-Batum----Kutaisi
AKbah-----------Sinai
Izmir-----------Smyrna

Now these names is most apropriated for map.


OK qwert...to be fair....after this current poll in run, we'll have another poll and let the foundry commenters decide what goes on the map. I'd prefer the original english names, but others might have another choice. :)
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] Poll (P1 or P8) for top of inset

Postby Qwert on Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:44 pm

OK qwert...to be fair....after this current poll in run, we'll have another poll and let the foundry commenters decide what goes on the map. I'd prefer the original english names, but others might have another choice.

Strange decision,every body know for Gallipoli(these is one example) and you want to add gelibolu(turkish name).
Anadolu is name for Asia Minor-all turkey and you put in place where is Adrianople(Edirne in turkey)
Sinai Peninsula is proper name for Akbah.
Well i just want to help to be proper, its up to you.
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] Poll (P1 or P8) for top of inset

Postby cairnswk on Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:50 pm

qwert wrote:
OK qwert...to be fair....after this current poll in run, we'll have another poll and let the foundry commenters decide what goes on the map. I'd prefer the original english names, but others might have another choice.

Strange decision,every body know for Gallipoli(these is one example) and you want to add gelibolu(turkish name).
Anadolu is name for Asia Minor-all turkey and you put in place where is Adrianople(Edirne in turkey)
Sinai Peninsula is proper name for Akbah.
Well i just want to help to be proper, its up to you.

exactly qwert, and that is why i make this decision to have poll. because sometimes what i see is not right, sometimes what others like you see is not right and sometimes we all not right. :)
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] Poll (P1 or P8) for top of inset

Postby Juan_Bottom on Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:51 pm

I'm American, and I would prefer it to be in the Turkish language. It's a map of their country after all.
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] Poll (P1 or P8) for top of inset

Postby lt_oddball on Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:43 am

Juan_Bottom wrote:I'm American, and I would prefer it to be in the Turkish language. It's a map of their country after all.


so the chinese maps should be in chinese character? The Mongol map in mongol text ?
And in worldmaps should have each individual country have its national spelling?
And what about contested areas ? The ottoman empire though appearing united in reality was and always had been a conglomerate of small groups of nationalities (as in Tito's Yugoslavia, as in Today's China, as in Former Soviet Union, as in etc..etc..)..
But what do you know, you're American. :mrgreen:
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] Poll (P1 or P8) for top of inset

Postby Qwert on Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:08 am

exactly qwert, and that is why i make this decision to have poll. because sometimes what i see is not right, sometimes what others like you see is not right and sometimes we all not right.

Poll is ok,but first you must check if these all names present these place on map ;)
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] Poll (P1 or P8) for top of inset

Postby yeti_c on Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:55 am

cairnswk wrote:
qwert wrote:
OK qwert...to be fair....after this current poll in run, we'll have another poll and let the foundry commenters decide what goes on the map. I'd prefer the original english names, but others might have another choice.

Strange decision,every body know for Gallipoli(these is one example) and you want to add gelibolu(turkish name).
Anadolu is name for Asia Minor-all turkey and you put in place where is Adrianople(Edirne in turkey)
Sinai Peninsula is proper name for Akbah.
Well i just want to help to be proper, its up to you.

exactly qwert, and that is why i make this decision to have poll. because sometimes what i see is not right, sometimes what others like you see is not right and sometimes we all not right. :)


If you speak to qwert too much you start typing like him!?!

C.

PS - I voted dome top... hope inset water is gonna be cool like other water too.
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] Poll (P1 or P8) for top of inset

Postby Juan_Bottom on Tue Sep 02, 2008 4:19 am

lt_oddball wrote:
Juan_Bottom wrote:I'm American, and I would prefer it to be in the Turkish language. It's a map of their country after all.


so the chinese maps should be in chinese character? The Mongol map in mongol text ?
And in worldmaps should have each individual country have its national spelling?
And what about contested areas ? The ottoman empire though appearing united in reality was and always had been a conglomerate of small groups of nationalities (as in Tito's Yugoslavia, as in Today's China, as in Former Soviet Union, as in etc..etc..)..
But what do you know, you're American. :mrgreen:


Why shouldn't they be? Put English underneath or something.
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] Poll (P1 or P8) for top of inset

Postby lt_oddball on Tue Sep 02, 2008 5:47 am

Juan_Bottom wrote:
lt_oddball wrote:
Juan_Bottom wrote:I'm American, and I would prefer it to be in the Turkish language. It's a map of their country after all.


so the chinese maps should be in chinese character? The Mongol map in mongol text ?
And in worldmaps should have each individual country have its national spelling?
And what about contested areas ? The ottoman empire though appearing united in reality was and always had been a conglomerate of small groups of nationalities (as in Tito's Yugoslavia, as in Today's China, as in Former Soviet Union, as in etc..etc..)..
But what do you know, you're American. :mrgreen:


Why shouldn't they be? Put English underneath or something.


Then let's hope no-one decides to make the Thailand map:
The real name of Bangkok is Krungthep Mahanakon Bovorn Rattanakosin Mahintharayutthaya Mahadilokpop Noparatratchatathani Burirom Udomratchanivetmahasatan Amornpiman Avatarnsatit Sakkathattiyaavisnukarmprasit.
And the english translation would be something like:
The city of angels, the great city, the residence of the Emerald Buddha, the impregnable city of God Indra, the grand capital of the world endowed with nine precious gems, the happy city, abounding in an enormous Royal Palace that resembles the heavenly abode where reigns the reincarnated god, a city given by Indra and built by Vishnukarn.

Better stick to english or internationally accepted names :-^
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE

Postby cairnswk on Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:18 pm

And the winner is......

Option A - for the top of the inset -> Ottoman Dome
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V8 P10

Postby gimil on Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:29 pm

POLL - TOP OF INSET (changeble voting)

Poll ended at Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:39 am

Option A: Ottoman Dome top
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Option B: Slanted top as per map
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Total votes : 17
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V8 P10

Postby edbeard on Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:50 pm

I guess I'm the only one who feels that the Armenia colour on the legend and the map don't really match? (Looks darker on the legend to me)
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V8 P10

Postby Ruben Cassar on Sat Sep 06, 2008 4:19 am

Hey cairns...this map looks great, but why did you use the inset? Couldn't you have fitted the army circles in the main map? A mini map could be used to fill that extra space.

I also have some big problems to distinguish the colours. Aleppo and Adana regions look a bit similar and the pink British territories are hard to see. Perhaps a darker red would do the trick. I'm sorry to bring this up because the colour scheme is really nice but a bit confusing for my colour blind eyes. :(
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V8 P10

Postby cairnswk on Sat Sep 06, 2008 4:35 am

Ruben Cassar wrote:Hey cairns...this map looks great, but why did you use the inset? Couldn't you have fitted the army circles in the main map? A mini map could be used to fill that extra space.

The army circles fitted, but the one-way arrow didn't and it was very cramped compared to the rest of the map.

I also have some big problems to distinguish the colours. Aleppo and Adana regions look a bit similar and the pink British territories are hard to see. Perhaps a darker red would do the trick. I'm sorry to bring this up because the colour scheme is really nice but a bit confusing for my colour blind eyes. :(

Yes i'm pleased you've happened along for that CB issue. I'll change those colours a bit to suit if i can.
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V8 P10

Postby oaktown on Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:44 pm

if the british campaign in mesopotamia really began in 916, that was indeed a long campaign! ;)

I'm throwing this out there both for you and other mapmakers: as a color blind player I appreciate it when the borders between regions differ from the territory borders in some manner other than color. On this map, every territory has an inner glow rather than every region as in some maps, which gets my eyes going in circles trying to sort out what's what. And in some cases the borders between territories of like color seem to be darker than between territories of different regions.

And am I the only one concerned about this trend of new maps with legends that are as large as the playing area?
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V8 P10

Postby yeti_c on Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:18 am

Cairns your Legend mixes tenses/ownerships...

For the Allies you have
Great Britain
Italy
France
and
Russian Empire
Mussien of Mecca

Consider using the collective terms i.e.
British
French
Italian

Especially as these areas aren't "France" - they are "French" however.

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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V8 P10

Postby cairnswk on Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:07 am

yeti_c wrote:Cairns your Legend mixes tenses/ownerships...

For the Allies you have
Great Britain
Italy
France
and
Russian Empire
Mussien of Mecca

Consider using the collective terms i.e.
British
French
Italian

Especially as these areas aren't "France" - they are "French" however.

C.

kewl...good points. thanks
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V8 P10

Postby cairnswk on Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:09 am

oaktown wrote:...
And am I the only one concerned about this trend of new maps with legends that are as large as the playing area?

well this will not remain in this form and if i can trim it down i will...however there is nothing written in stone, concrete or any other medium in this site that says the design has to be as you described above and are concerned about. :)
as long as the map stays with bounds of the size regulations..... ;)
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V8 P10

Postby cairnswk on Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:49 pm

Any more comments?
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V8 P10

Postby gimil on Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:45 am

cairnswk wrote:as long as the map stays with bounds of the size regulations..... ;)


And community satisfaction :-^

I sort of agree that the legends takes up to much needless space, but its not really a big issues to me to be honest.
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V8 P10

Postby cairnswk on Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:32 am

gimil wrote:
cairnswk wrote:as long as the map stays with bounds of the size regulations..... ;)


And community satisfaction :-^

I sort of agree that the legends takes up to much needless space, but its not really a big issues to me to be honest.


cairnswk wrote:...
well this will not remain in this form and if i can trim it down i will...


I wish people would read and understand!
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V8 P10

Postby gimil on Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:09 am

cairnswk wrote:I wish people would read and understand!


Come on cairns, we're not all perfect. Sometimes we don't have time to read everything you know ;)
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V8 P10

Postby Qwert on Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:53 am

by gimil on Fri Sep 19, 2008 4:09 pm


Come on cairns, we're not all perfect. Sometimes we don't have time to read everything you know

Come and say these on mine topic. ;)
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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V8 P10

Postby MrBenn on Sat Sep 20, 2008 5:09 pm

cairnswk wrote:
Ruben Cassar wrote:Hey cairns...this map looks great, but why did you use the inset? Couldn't you have fitted the army circles in the main map? A mini map could be used to fill that extra space.

The army circles fitted, but the one-way arrow didn't and it was very cramped compared to the rest of the map.
oaktown wrote:And am I the only one concerned about this trend of new maps with legends that are as large as the playing area?

It does seem a bit pointless to squeeze the inset area in, when there is plenty of room to spread things out...
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