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Re: Edirne <-> Russian Empire Proposal

Postby cairnswk on Fri Mar 06, 2009 12:54 am

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cairnswk wrote:What do others feel about inserting this link into the map to make the Russian Empire more vulnerable if someone holds O. Europe terts? The attack route would be bothways.

As there hasn't been much discussion about this here, either before or after you brought it up, it doesn't look to be a major concern of players. I'd say this is your call, mapmaker.


What do you think of this idea oaktown.
Have you played the map?
Would it benefit the overall play having that link?
And sorry, but i haven't really had time to chase people up about this.
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Re: Edirne <-> Russian Empire Proposal

Postby oaktown on Fri Mar 06, 2009 1:17 am

cairnswk wrote:What do you think of this idea oaktown.
Have you played the map?
Would it benefit the overall play having that link?

I have to admit that I haven't played this or many of the newer maps - I've been away lot recently, and I got into too many Whac-a-mod games. I'm just now trying to catch up with the Forge.

cairnswk wrote:And sorry, but i haven't really had time to chase people up about this.

No worries... it doesn't seem as if the community is up in arms over this detail of your map.
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby Ruben Cassar on Fri Mar 06, 2009 1:28 pm

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mpxy wrote:The name of one of the regions, Constantinopole, is wrong. It used to be the old name which was being used before the Ottoman conquest (which was many years ago before 1914). The correct name should be Istanbul.

Thanks for the feedback mpxy...do you equate with abts...sorry only joking. ;) ...me doing algebra at present at uni.

I researched this quite well, and .44 above has provided most of the references. Therefore i would prefer to stick with Constantinople.


It was Constantinople in fact...the name changed at a later date as stated by .44, so good choice! ;)
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby MrBenn on Sat Mar 07, 2009 4:25 am

I've just ( :oops: ) got around to playing my first game on this map, and I have to say the thick grey borders between the regions caused by a little bit of confusion... I got it into my head that they were impassable borders :lol:

I wonder if anybody else had the same random thought? If so, it might be worth making those lines a bit thinner! Now that I've sorted out my grey matter, I don't think it's a big issue - but if others think the same, it might be worth a tweak...
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby cairnswk on Sat Mar 07, 2009 5:01 am

MrBenn wrote:I've just ( :oops: ) got around to playing my first game on this map, and I have to say the thick grey borders between the regions caused by a little bit of confusion... I got it into my head that they were impassable borders :lol:

I wonder if anybody else had the same random thought? If so, it might be worth making those lines a bit thinner! Now that I've sorted out my grey matter, I don't think it's a big issue - but if others think the same, it might be worth a tweak...

Does it say anything on the map about anything being impassable???
This is what i was talking about with oaktown recently....no impassable notation mean nothing is impassable.
Seems like nobody picks anything up anymore :(
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby MrBenn on Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:36 am

cairnswk wrote:
MrBenn wrote:I've just ( :oops: ) got around to playing my first game on this map, and I have to say the thick grey borders between the regions caused by a little bit of confusion... I got it into my head that they were impassable borders :lol:

I wonder if anybody else had the same random thought? If so, it might be worth making those lines a bit thinner! Now that I've sorted out my grey matter, I don't think it's a big issue - but if others think the same, it might be worth a tweak...

Does it say anything on the map about anything being impassable???
This is what i was talking about with oaktown recently....no impassable notation mean nothing is impassable.
Seems like nobody picks anything up anymore :(

Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying that any changes should be made... I just had a funny five minutes and got it into my head that the thick grey lines were impassable (which, as you say, it does not say anywhere on the map)!
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby Ruben Cassar on Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:07 am

cairnswk wrote:
MrBenn wrote:I've just ( :oops: ) got around to playing my first game on this map, and I have to say the thick grey borders between the regions caused by a little bit of confusion... I got it into my head that they were impassable borders :lol:

I wonder if anybody else had the same random thought? If so, it might be worth making those lines a bit thinner! Now that I've sorted out my grey matter, I don't think it's a big issue - but if others think the same, it might be worth a tweak...

Does it say anything on the map about anything being impassable???
This is what i was talking about with oaktown recently....no impassable notation mean nothing is impassable.
Seems like nobody picks anything up anymore :(


I played a couple of games on this map and everything seems fine in my personal opinion. Two colours are a bit similar but I remember I did not give enough feedback when this one was in developmental stage so it's my fault. However I can still distinguish between them when I look closely.

I don't think there is need for any changes. It's a pretty straightforward map...actually one of the few made by cairns that I can play! Hehe. Well done mate.

P.S. - Do Edirne and Gelibolu form part of a bonus?
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby cairnswk on Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:30 am

Ruben Cassar wrote:....
I played a couple of games on this map and everything seems fine in my personal opinion. Two colours are a bit similar but I remember I did not give enough feedback when this one was in developmental stage so it's my fault. However I can still distinguish between them when I look closely.

I don't think there is need for any changes. It's a pretty straightforward map...actually one of the few made by cairns that I can play! Hehe. Well done mate.

P.S. - Do Edirne and Gelibolu form part of a bonus?


Yes, they do Ruben....Ottoman Europe.
Thanks for the feedback btw... :)
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby saaimen on Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:35 am

Ruben Cassar wrote:Two colours are a bit similar but I remember I did not give enough feedback when this one was in developmental stage so it's my fault. However I can still distinguish between them when I look closely.

I bet you're talking about Italian Colony and Hussein of Mecca?

By the way, cairns... Is it possible you missed my previous post? It was the last one on p23.
If you deliberately ignored it, you can tell me now ;)
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby cairnswk on Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:30 am

saaimen wrote:
Ruben Cassar wrote:Two colours are a bit similar but I remember I did not give enough feedback when this one was in developmental stage so it's my fault. However I can still distinguish between them when I look closely.

I bet you're talking about Italian Colony and Hussein of Mecca?

By the way, cairns... Is it possible you missed my previous post? It was the last one on p23.
If you deliberately ignored it, you can tell me now ;)

saaimen, yes i missed your post, my apologies, they normally don't slip through my radar, but because i have had uni on recently, i may not have been paying too much attention.
I will not your recommendation and adjust it if this needs to have new image posted again soon for whatever reason.
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby Ogrecrusher on Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:42 am

I've played 2 flat rate double games on this map and they've both gone the same way. Someone grabs Russian Territories Early, the players in the middle attack them, and then the colony players come through to win. From this, having been in both positions, we won the second game, it's clear that it's really hard to get to the bottom of the map from the top. This weakens Russian Territories enough in my eyes, I doubt another attack route into it is needed.
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby Gilligan on Thu Mar 26, 2009 5:50 am

I don't know if this has been brought up, but the Medina Akbah connection is hardly noticeable (I didn't know until someone used it on me)
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby cairnswk on Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:43 am

Gilligan wrote:I don't know if this has been brought up, but the Medina Akbah connection is hardly noticeable (I didn't know until someone used it on me)

You normally follow my maps, why didn't you this time??
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby Ogrecrusher on Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:45 am

cairnswk wrote:
Gilligan wrote:I don't know if this has been brought up, but the Medina Akbah connection is hardly noticeable (I didn't know until someone used it on me)

You normally follow my maps, why didn't you this time??

I didn't even know there was a connection there to make clearer!
You could move the crown or draw and arrow surely? :)
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby Gilligan on Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:04 am

cairnswk wrote:
Gilligan wrote:I don't know if this has been brought up, but the Medina Akbah connection is hardly noticeable (I didn't know until someone used it on me)

You normally follow my maps, why didn't you this time??


Normally... Except maybe Forbidden City and your Poison Rome... :lol: ;)

But I didn't even see a connection, and got attacked at Medina from Akbah.
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby Ruben Cassar on Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:49 am

Cairns...the neutral region below Italian Abyssinia, shouldn't it be called Abyssinia instead of Abyssina?
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby cairnswk on Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:28 pm

saaimen wrote:Nice map, cairnswk :)

Just one thing. I don't know if this has been discussed before because I didn't read the whole 23 pages.
But the one thing that really caught my eye was the lower left corner. The placement of the soldiers' image and the symbol legend doesn't seem right to me. My feeling tells me the soldiers should be moved up and left a bit in that grid, and maybe the text should be centered with the symbol above it.
But that's just my feeling. Maybe you can understand, it seems a bit randomly placed in an otherwise so well-balanced map.
My 2 cents ;)


Ogrecrusher wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
Gilligan wrote:I don't know if this has been brought up, but the Medina Akbah connection is hardly noticeable (I didn't know until someone used it on me)

You normally follow my maps, why didn't you this time??

I didn't even know there was a connection there to make clearer!
You could move the crown or draw and arrow surely? :)


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cairnswk wrote:
Gilligan wrote:I don't know if this has been brought up, but the Medina Akbah connection is hardly noticeable (I didn't know until someone used it on me)

You normally follow my maps, why didn't you this time??


Normally... Except maybe Forbidden City and your Poison Rome... :lol: ;)

But I didn't even see a connection, and got attacked at Medina from Akbah.


Ruben Cassar wrote:Cairns...the neutral region below Italian Abyssinia, shouldn't it be called Abyssinia instead of Abyssina?


How is this guys.
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby saaimen on Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:03 pm

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saaimen wrote:Nice map, cairnswk

Just one thing. I don't know if this has been discussed before because I didn't read the whole 23 pages.
But the one thing that really caught my eye was the lower left corner. The placement of the soldiers' image and the symbol legend doesn't seem right to me. My feeling tells me the soldiers should be moved up and left a bit in that grid, and maybe the text should be centered with the symbol above it.
But that's just my feeling. Maybe you can understand, it seems a bit randomly placed in an otherwise so well-balanced map.
My 2 cents
How is this guys.

Well... It's better already :) But still I think the soldiers (with the now better centered text) should be moved up and left. It just looks a bit weird.
I'm guessing maybe the whole soldiers-on-the-grid thing is one image and you can't change their relative positions? In that case, you might zoom in a bit, align the right and bottom side, and cut away on the left and the top.

Or am I being naggy :D?
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby cairnswk on Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:13 pm

saaimen wrote:...
Well... It's better already :) But still I think the soldiers (with the now better centered text) should be moved up and left. It just looks a bit weird.
I'm guessing maybe the whole soldiers-on-the-grid thing is one image and you can't change their relative positions? In that case, you might zoom in a bit, align the right and bottom side, and cut away on the left and the top.

Or am I being naggy :D?

the later i think. I have deliverately placed this so that the guns don't overlap.
Next time, please attend the map beforeit goes to final forge for these adjustments. Thanks. :)
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby Ruben Cassar on Thu Mar 26, 2009 5:46 pm

Baghdad is spelt wrongly as well...I'm amazed no one noticed those 2 spelling mistakes before.
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby cairnswk on Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:34 pm

Ruben Cassar wrote:Baghdad is spelt wrongly as well...I'm amazed no one noticed those 2 spelling mistakes before.

:oops: Ruben, it'll have to wait again now. I'm in the middle of studying for uni exams. Thanks. :)
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby Ruben Cassar on Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:58 pm

cairnswk wrote:
Ruben Cassar wrote:Baghdad is spelt wrongly as well...I'm amazed no one noticed those 2 spelling mistakes before.

:oops: Ruben, it'll have to wait again now. I'm in the middle of studying for uni exams. Thanks. :)


Good luck for your exams! :)
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby Ogrecrusher on Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:01 pm

Love the update.
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby cairnswk on Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:23 pm

Ruben Cassar wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
Ruben Cassar wrote:Baghdad is spelt wrongly as well...I'm amazed no one noticed those 2 spelling mistakes before.

:oops: Ruben, it'll have to wait again now. I'm in the middle of studying for uni exams. Thanks. :)


Good luck for your exams! :)

Thanks Ruben, very kind of you. I think i did OK. :)

Ogrecrusher wrote:Love the update.

Excellent.
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Re: WWI Ottoman Empire [Beta]

Postby oaktown on Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:32 pm

it's been two weeks since the last concern, and that was just spelling. if there are no objections I think this map can be promoted out of beta. =D>
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