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Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:14 pm
by Dexsting
Looking at the neutral placement, do you really want to have some people have some start drops that are behind a neutral? IE, Gaius Marius on the other side of the Julia Caesarias. I would think it'd be better to have the neutrals on the other side of these corners like the way Gnaeus Pompeus is. That would me switching the neutrals from their current position to thier spouse for Julia Caesaris, Octavia Minor (switch with Claudius Marcellus), Julia The Elders (switch with Marcellus), and Drusilla.

Also a thought on the III for Castor Drusus/Livilla family...that seems high to me for an easier accomplisment than all the other III's on the board, and even easier than some of the I's. I notices there isn't a II, maybe move it down to that if you don't want it all the way to a I?

Just suggestions and opinion is all. Hope it helps,

-Dexsting

Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:20 pm
by whitestazn88
dude... great map, one of my current favorites

Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:21 pm
by lanyards
I like this map. It is really interesting,

Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:38 pm
by cairnswk
whitestazn88 wrote:dude... great map, one of my current favorites

lanyards wrote:I like this map. It is really interesting,

Thanks guys for dropping by with nice comments. :)

Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:43 pm
by cairnswk
Dexsting wrote:Looking at the neutral placement, do you really want to have some people have some start drops that are behind a neutral? IE, Gaius Marius on the other side of the Julia Caesarias. I would think it'd be better to have the neutrals on the other side of these corners like the way Gnaeus Pompeus is. That would me switching the neutrals from their current position to thier spouse for Julia Caesaris, Octavia Minor (switch with Claudius Marcellus), Julia The Elders (switch with Marcellus), and Drusilla.

Also a thought on the III for Castor Drusus/Livilla family...that seems high to me for an easier accomplisment than all the other III's on the board, and even easier than some of the I's. I notices there isn't a II, maybe move it down to that if you don't want it all the way to a I?

Just suggestions and opinion is all. Hope it helps,

-Dexsting


Dexsting, thanks for your comments, i'll keep note if others call for these changes also. :)

Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:40 am
by finchboy
This a very cool map Cairns, another very cool map I should say! I love how the bonuses work, they're really cunning, the layout must have taken you forever! Much appreciated!

Finch

Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:15 pm
by cairnswk
finchboy wrote:This a very cool map Cairns, another very cool map I should say! I love how the bonuses work, they're really cunning, the layout must have taken you forever! Much appreciated!

Finch


Thanks finchboy. :) Yes, the bonuses were created by simply thinking "outside the box", Glad you like them and the layout.

Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:00 am
by Hopscotcher
I'm in love with this map, Cairns. I'd marry it, but I'm sure a jealous lover would give me poison figs. Ok that was a bad joke, but definitely Superb! I'm currently starting a tournament on it. I'm not going to spam, but figure'd you might be interested. The link is in my signature.

Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:26 pm
by danryan
Brilliant map. Unlike anything else on cc and actually a very good 1 v 1 map due to the variety of paths and bonus combinations. I'm loving it.

Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:45 am
by danryan
One early comment I have - if a player drops on Julia, that +1 bonus is near impregnable in the early game due to the 5 neutrals on Dictator Caesar. Seems like all the other +1 bonuses are more easily accessible (especially the ones around Aggripina). May not be an issue, but I've been playing the map 1 v 1 alot and noticed this has a large impact.

Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 3:23 pm
by cairnswk
LLLUUUKKKEEE wrote:I did find it very confusing, and was reading BoB alot.
Id say I only won becuase of escalating cards, but I did like the fact that there is lots of borders, I was only playing for terminator kills, but then found out I could attack others from multiple directions, thus giving me the win.

I like what you are trying to do with the "family tree" as attack routes, but thought the bombardments were out of place.
This is a good map, in the same league as something like waterloo, where it isn't that easy to build.

Graphic wise, I found it a little hard being orange, I could't play without BoB.

But its a keeper, you just can't stop churning out great maps. - Thanks!

Cheers

Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 3:51 pm
by brian fletcher
still havent won a game on it yet, but having great fun discovering all the different routes.

one thing ive noticed is that because the background is mostly white, or at best a light grey colour. when you place the curser on a tert as a way of seeing who you can attack.... well when its a neutral its hard to make out if not impossible.

Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:36 am
by GenuineEarlGrey
Another great map.

Many thanks,

E.G.

Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:07 am
by cairnswk
brian fletcher wrote:still havent won a game on it yet, but having great fun discovering all the different routes.

one thing ive noticed is that because the background is mostly white, or at best a light grey colour. when you place the curser on a tert as a way of seeing who you can attack.... well when its a neutral its hard to make out if not impossible.


Brian, thanks for comment.
I too have issues seeing somethings with the yellow of the site and the white doesn't help much either. Sorry about that.

GenuineEarlGrey wrote:Another great map.

Many thanks,

E.G.

Thanks E.G. :)

Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:23 pm
by brian fletcher
cairnswk wrote:
brian fletcher wrote:still havent won a game on it yet, but having great fun discovering all the different routes.

one thing ive noticed is that because the background is mostly white, or at best a light grey colour. when you place the curser on a tert as a way of seeing who you can attack.... well when its a neutral its hard to make out if not impossible.


Brian, thanks for comment.
I too have issues seeing somethings with the yellow of the site and the white doesn't help much either. Sorry about that.

GenuineEarlGrey wrote:Another great map.

Many thanks,

E.G.

Thanks E.G. :)


its not a problem to me because when i play with someone who hasnt played the map before i will have a great advantage, and they will whinge like an aussie who has just lost the ashes.... bring it on....

Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:48 pm
by cairnswk
brian fletcher wrote:...
its not a problem to me because when i play with someone who hasnt played the map before i will have a great advantage, and they will whinge like an aussie who has just lost the ashes.... bring it on....

Lol, wrong person to mention cricket to i'm afraid. i couldn't care less about the ashes or who wins them.

Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:51 pm
by brian fletcher
sorry cairns.. that wasnt a dig at you... didnt even realise you was an aussie let alone that you`d know that i was refering to cricket.... i actually mentioned the ashes so the colonials would ask.... ashes? WTF are the ashes? lol

Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:03 pm
by cairnswk
brian fletcher wrote:sorry cairns.. that wasnt a dig at you... didnt even realise you was an aussie let alone that you`d know that i was refering to cricket.... i actually mentioned the ashes so the colonials would ask.... ashes? WTF are the ashes? lol
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:24 am
by Hopscotcher
Ashes? WTF are ashes?

Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:50 am
by cairnswk
Hopscotcher wrote:Ashes? WTF are ashes?

i love it when people want to learn :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ashes

Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:41 am
by Dexsting
You should make an Ashes map :)

Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:44 am
by brian fletcher
i was only thinking the same thing myself the other day...
would only be a small map though.
11 fielders
2 batsmen..... even if you included the 9 on the balcony (thats an idea)
11 batsmen
2 umpires
3rd umpire
match referee
scorer
2 commentators
streaker.... always a streaker running around
programme seller
icecream seller
beer tent
whats your ideas cairnes. is it possible? suppose it would be a touch elitist as its only really commonwealth chaps who would play it, or would have any idea what the game was about... 5 days play and only a draw? HUH!!!
i know this is the wrong thread and i appologise profusely. but imagine the field placing
silly mid on-off
square leg
backward square
3rd man
deep mid-off
gully
go on mate... lets see what you and your magic fingers can conjour up

Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:07 pm
by the.killing.44
Not the place for new map discussion guys ;)

.44

Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:58 pm
by cairnswk
Dexsting wrote:You should make an Ashes map :)

brian fletcher wrote:...go on mate... lets see what you and your magic fingers can conjour up

Ref: Silly Mid-On

the.killing.44 wrote:Not the place for new map discussion guys ;)
.44

Re-directed :)

Re: Poison Rome [Beta] Neutral Start Adjustments

PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:18 pm
by Jackets55
In my experience (limited as it may be), this a piss pour map. Now, I know someone worked hard developing it, but how about at least identifying the bonus amounts somewhere. What a crap shoot. Not worth the effort to play since it comes down to the drop.