Conquer Club

Esn wrote:Is it just me, or is this map particularly conducive to 3-way ties that last a long time?

This is symptomatic of a well-balanced map - and in my opinion is pretty standard in 3-player games in any case

MrBenn wrote:

Esn wrote:Is it just me, or is this map particularly conducive to 3-way ties that last a long time?

This is symptomatic of a well-balanced map - and in my opinion is pretty standard in 3-player games in any case

Better the map is well balanced than lopsided.

Bruceswar wrote:

MrBenn wrote:

Esn wrote:Is it just me, or is this map particularly conducive to 3-way ties that last a long time?

This is symptomatic of a well-balanced map - and in my opinion is pretty standard in 3-player games in any case

Better the map is well balanced than lopsided.

Very true. If you don't want long games, try escalating spoils. Sooner or later someone will cash in for an overwhelming number of troops. Sure, it's a matter of luck at that point, but the skill comes in being ready.

MrBenn wrote:

Esn wrote:Is it just me, or is this map particularly conducive to 3-way ties that last a long time?

This is symptomatic of a well-balanced map - and in my opinion is pretty standard in 3-player games in any case

One of the games started as 6-player, the other as 5-player, but both are 3-player now and look like they're going to stay that way for some time. I was referring more to the fact that there seem to be 3 stable "bases" long-term (if you play flat rate or no spoils), and any player who doesn't manage to get into one of those 3 positions will be eliminated sooner or later.

This isn't a complaint, just a hypothesis about the strategic side. Have any other people noticed the same thing?

Esn wrote:

MrBenn wrote:

Esn wrote:Is it just me, or is this map particularly conducive to 3-way ties that last a long time?

This is symptomatic of a well-balanced map - and in my opinion is pretty standard in 3-player games in any case

One of the games started as 6-player, the other as 5-player, but both are 3-player now and look like they're going to stay that way for some time. I was referring more to the fact that there seem to be 3 stable "bases" long-term (if you play flat rate or no spoils), and any player who doesn't manage to get into one of those 3 positions will be eliminated sooner or later.

This isn't a complaint, just a hypothesis about the strategic side. Have any other people noticed the same thing?

Sorry, but if you play any decently large map on 3, 5+ players, with no spoils or flat rate, you're probably going to get a stalemate.

This probably should come out of Beta now.

Risky_Stud wrote:This probably should come out of Beta now.

You're biased

jakewilliams wrote:

Risky_Stud wrote:This probably should come out of Beta now.

You're biased

So! What's your point?

lost in BETA land forever...

Quenching

---The Beta period has concluded for the First Nations of North America Map. All objections have had their time. The Foundry and I hereby brand this map with the Foundry Brand. Let it be known that this map is now ready to be released into live play.

Congratulations Tisha, your shiny new medal is well-earned


Conquer Club, enjoy!

--MrBenn

thanks MrBenn

sweet Well done tisha !

A couple suggestions for realism, in case they aren't made yet. First, where are the Cherokee? I'm part Cherokee, and am a little disappointed to not have my people represented here. Second, the Taino indians are not from Republica Dominicana, they're Puerto Rican, you might want to add PR in there beside the Republica. (I'm part Puerto Rican myself, so...) Other than that, its good to me.

how many north american maps till you guys say enough? ... bog

ChDaemon wrote:A couple suggestions for realism, in case they aren't made yet. First, where are the Cherokee? I'm part Cherokee, and am a little disappointed to not have my people represented here. Second, the Taino indians are not from Republica Dominicana, they're Puerto Rican, you might want to add PR in there beside the Republica. (I'm part Puerto Rican myself, so...) Other than that, its good to me.

if you are so into your native side, perhaps you should study it a bit. the Cherokee didn't refer to themselves as Cherokee way back when.
Read about Taino history while you're at it.

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*sigh*... 115 rounds and no sign of an ending to the stalemate.

The other game took 81 rounds, and that was with players who made large mistakes...

The thing is, it's impossible to make small gains on this map. Notice how the territories in the middle all give you 7 or 8 troops? As soon as anyone takes one of those, he immediately begins getting much more than the other two players & they gang up on him.

I recommend playing only with escalating cards on this map. Anything else becomes very tedious unless there are big skill disparities between the players, or someone takes the lead early enough in the game that his troop advantage for 1 turn will offset the others teaming up against him.

Is Nimiipuu for some reason supposed to start with 2 neutrals (and not 3)?

alstergren wrote:Is Nimiipuu for some reason supposed to start with 2 neutrals (and not 3)?

Yes, it's deliberate

Nice map. Maybe it is a bit unbalanced towards the south, where there are the 2 almost sure bonus to begin with. Who begins there, if lucky, has a greater chance to win the game.

Move along, moron at work. Nothing to see here.

hey man
you are playing with ADJACENT reinforcements

muahahahahhahahahaha

Oh my... I am such an idiot.

I never play with that setting, so that never occurred to me. Doh!

I am a noob and this is the first game i have created. But even with map size set to small I can only see the Northern part of the map.

welcome to conquer club! do u have a game number, so that someone can take a look?

ian.