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Map of Middle-Earth [Quenched]

PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:01 pm
by MrConfigT
I'd like to start work on this map if noone else has. I have a great base map already started, Just need to create borders etc..

I know its been discussed but has anyone else started on this? Maybe we could work together?

PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:09 pm
by thegrimsleeper
Someone actually scanned in the LOTR Risk map... there's a thread about it here :arrow:

I think we can all agree that nobody wants to see the map in the above thread make it in; ConquerClub is something new and fresh. We don't need to rip off other people's ideas here!

But if you had a nice scan of the map included with the trilogy, that would be SICK.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:15 pm
by Jota
Assuming you mean "sick" in a good way, then I thoroughly agree. I imagine that the hand-drawn original version of the map is probably quite a bit larger than the ones in most editions of the books. I wonder if a full-sized version of it has been published at any point.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:19 pm
by MrConfigT
The version I have is someone's traced drawing of the map. I think its pretty good and its really high res so I can do any resizing I need to do w/ it.

I'll get an upload here in a little bit. The orginal is just black and white w/ no shading. I'm debating whether or not I should go into colors or just shade the map like the one from the trilogy box set....

PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 12:49 pm
by MrConfigT
Since there's a poll of this already....

I'll post some screen shots of what i've been working on. Its going to take me a while to complete, but I've got some help and free time coming.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 2:04 pm
by Hoff
nice, i think a middle-earth map would be amazing

PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 2:39 pm
by MrConfigT
Very Rough Draft of Middle Earth

You'll have to right click and save as for this image to work. Its high res, so bear with the file size.

I havn't done much other than carve out what I thought would make good borders for continents. The colors are open, I just put some on there to show the borders more clearly.

Next I'm going to work on getting the countries borders drawn, then finally color shading and adding texture to the map. And coming up with names for everything.

I really need help w/ the countries and their borders. Anyone want to g ive some input? Once finals are finished in two weeks, I'll have a lot more time to work on the map.


a bit smaller

PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 2:48 pm
by ticalien
I shrunk it down a bit so you can actually open the file. MrConfigT and I will be putting this together so no worries there.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 2:59 pm
by DublinDoogey
A middle earth map would be pretty cool, I know we want something different from the real lotr boardgame risk, but you could look at that for inspiration for borders.

I think, as far as colors go, it might be a good idea to to something similar to the latest Ireland map, where it looks like a real map. I'm not sure how the community, and the person who did the Ireland map would feel about that, but imho, that'd look good for this map

anyway, keep up the work, can't wait to play it

PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 3:31 pm
by MrConfigT
Right now the colors are the easiest thing to change.

Anyone have a high res picture of the risk version?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 5:34 pm
by qeee1
It's really hard to make anything out of your map. Only comment I've to make is copyright... get it sorted, the person behind the discworld map did so it should be possible.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 6:55 pm
by coolestguy98
Yea, i say lets get this map going, and going good. Cause this would be incredably fun to play, and now i'm getting excited about it. Do whatever is needed to bust this bad boy out. I think that there is a long way to go with this as of now, i'm not gonna lie, but i think its something that should get worked through.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:03 pm
by MrConfigT
Don't get me wrong. THat is just a

ROUGH idea of what is to come. If i can get the copy right stuff out of the way then I'll start mainstream production on the map.

I've put in maybe an hour into the map, while playing CC of course. ITs still got 5-10hrs left on it if i'm guessing correctly. Just on the graphics part of it. Not to mention the copyright info.

If I don't get a response, or a response we do not like on the copyright information, I'll hand draw map of my own creation based on the poster I have in my room. Then start over from there.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 8:51 pm
by freakshow
You have to watch out on what the copyright covers. (repeatin myself here) I'm pretty sure that a copy right covering all videogames based on the books was sold to EA and I doubt that they'll give you the rights to do anything. I think some of the names are copyrighted to so just makeing up a name for it other than middle earth might not cut it in that sense. I'm not a copyright lawyer or anything but I have this feeling that if anything based on JRR tolkin's work goes up on conquer club lawyers might start to take intrest.

PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 1:48 pm
by MrConfigT

Here's where its at right now, near finalization. We're debating on a few things, such as adding land marks, such as rivendale, isengard, ...etc


PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 2:03 pm
by thegrimsleeper
You only have 40 countries, but 7 continents... :?

PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 2:11 pm
by MrConfigT
The difficulty of holding those continents is high though....

PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 6:53 pm
by MrConfigT

^^ Care to explain why 40 armies to 7 continents is bad? I don't follow exactly.

ANy other input?

PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 7:10 pm
by Fieryo
I like it so far. A few things: I cant tell the difference between Gondor and Ruhn, the colors are too similar. And the more northern of the two (which i assume is Ruhn cuz the other one has South Gondor in it :wink: ) is too bright and i cant see the countries borders very well.

PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 8:53 pm
by DublinDoogey
I like it, I would suggest changing the color dividing continents though. The blue looks like rivers, which makes it confusing at first.

Otherwise, nice job :)

PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 9:07 pm
by ticalien
They are rivers.


PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 9:14 pm
by DublinDoogey
They are rivers.

then it appears that there is no way to attack across them, is it safe to assume that bridges will be added?


PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 9:34 pm
by ticalien
Changed country colors and boundries in Gondor and Ruhn.

Changed the rivers around a bit so they're not so intimidating. All rivers in this map are passable, mountians are the only barriers.

Removed path from Andrast to Far Harad.


PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 10:50 pm
by Evil Pope
In my oppinion, the rivers should be impassible, and you should use bridges..
Also, I don't think it matters, but, wouldn't Andrast be part of Gondor?

If you wanted to add some more countries, you could easily split a few places.. The wold could be split into the wold and East Emnet(or Sarn Gebir)(and Rohan could be renamed West Emnet or Westfold(just a suggestion on my part, but it doesn't really matter)).
Also, Angmar could be split into angmar and the north downs..
And South Gondor could be split into South Gondor and South Ithilien..

PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 11:27 pm
by ticalien
I took your suggestion on Westfold. I actually considered all of your recommended splits when i was dividing up the countries. Should the need arise I think those would be good and accurate recomendations.