The Third Crusade [Quenched] Revamping

[neanderpaul14]

For starters, love the map Kaba. That being said maybe the fact that The English Channel is a killer neutral should be placed in the key and not way off in the corner. Many do not see it up there.

[Kabanellas]

Hi NP. Thanks!

Well, my feeling is that the legend board is quite overcrowded already, so positioning that piece of info (and abbreviation legend) near the location on map makes it more direct.

[luxCRUSADER]

YOUR map of the 3rd Crusade is amazing ... just got my 10th plus game won on Victory Conditions alone ... my last one being Game 6069257 at round 9 in a 6 player game ... love it whether I win or lose

This map is AMAZING !!!

[jman10012]

One of my favorites. Only thing is that there should be some more bonuses for the other 2 muslim territories. You get a Muslim bonus for up to 5 of their symbols but theres 7 of them so if you have more then 5 you are just taking them from your enemy, victory condition, or just to have another territory. And one other problem is Wales should have about 3 men. Theres not much need to have the British starting player spend on average 5 to 6 men for a bonus of 1 army per turn. It opens up the 2 bonus for Cyprus but it still should include fewer men. All in all though i really like it. Just those two minor problems and i'd say its ready to come out of Beta.

[Kabanellas]

Thanks Lux!

Jman thanks for your input, indeed 7 Muslim bonuses for a maximum combination of 5 – I wouldn’t want those bonuses to become overrated. As for Wales, that was widely discussed before and lots of arguments were put on the table leaving the actual status as the best option - we don’t want to make England starting position too advantageous.

[Captain_Scarlet]

well I love the map - it is fresh and interesting only problem I have found it that the game information does not update immediately I have to refresh to update

[snufkin]

Great map..

.. although it´s more than a little weird that Cairo is located on the Sinai peninsula.

I see the big map has been corrected now so that the city of cairo roughly is on the border between cairo and alexandria territories.
This is a good improvement, but it looks like you only fixed it on the big map?

The small map still has the real location of cairo as part of the alexandria territory.

[Kabanellas]

the large map is easy, but in the small one I had to manage with less pixels - and still fit everything in them

[Geoff_with_a_G]

Can someone confirm if victory is achieved as soon as a player holds the territories defined in the victory conditions OR does the player need to hold those territories for one turn and then win the game at the start of their next turn?

Thanks
Geoff

[natty dread]

You need to hold them for one full turn.

[ender516]

You need to hold them for one full turn.

Just so you know, geoff@xtra.co.nz, this is true for any map having a victory condition.

[JustCallMeStupid]

Map looks good. Definitely more balanced than before. I think it needs some more time in beta for us to all get used to the changes since christmas break was probably a little slow.
-js-

[jman10012]

Last time i had all the victory conditions i didnt win immediately but the game didnt last another turn cause i beat everyone else. So no. You dont win automatically.

[denominator]

The more I play this map, the more I enjoy it because it has some amazing gameplay to offer, and this is especially true for team games.

However, the Legend is very confusing and does not describe the bonuses very well. It is a very difficult map to pick up simply because it is so hard to understand the legend with all the one way attacks and various bonuses for holding 1 or 2 regions.

[MrBenn]

As far as I can tell there hasn't been much discussion since the changes went live at the end of December?
Are you contemplating any further changes to the map?

[Kabanellas]

I'm pretty satisfied to what we've got here atm......

[AndrewB]

I am satisfied with the map too.

[Commander9]

I think it's quite balanced now and it's gameplay is amazing. Superb map, superb effort. Bravo

To be honest, I think it can go out of the beta stage now as this hasn't been very active for a while now.

[natty dread]

If you're gonna move this out of beta, please do it after the next Newsletter is released... I don't want to write a news headline about a map getting quenched in a terrible hurry


despite the smileys I'm actually semi-serious...

[Kabanellas]

I think it's quite balanced now and it's gameplay is amazing. Superb map, superb effort. Bravo

To be honest, I think it can go out of the beta stage now as this hasn't been very active for a while now.

Thanks a lot Commander

[MrBenn]

Quenching

---The Beta period has concluded for the Third Crusade Map. All objections have had their time. The Foundry and I hereby brand this map with the Foundry Brand. Let it be known that this map is now ready to be released into live play.

Congratulations Kabanellas and AndrewB, your shiny new medals are well-earned


Conquer Club, enjoy!

--MrBenn

[luxCRUSADER]

Congratulations Kabanellas and company .... I have made many new friends with your map ...cuz a lot ... *clearing throat* ...ALOT of people love your map ...

Someone should run a stat and check to see ... of all the maps with victory conditions .... which one has these victory conditions MOST utilized as a players victory path ... in fogged play ... I can't recall the number of wonderful sleeps I have had winning a game having pre-arranged with large stacks of armies sitting on the victory points

Once again ... let me take this time to say: ... .... thank you ....

Thanks for the countless number of games of sheer enjoyment playing on your map

L8R
luxCRUSADER

[Kabanellas]

Great!! Thanks Benn.

@ Lux, thanks again for all that wonderful support!

[natty dread]

Congrats Kabanellas, it's an awesome map.

(for the record, I beat all of you in my first 3rd crusade game... Game 5901648)

[AndrewB]

Thanks everyone for the help.

And Congrats, Kabanellas, awesome awesome job!