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Postby RjBeals on Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:54 am

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I'll stop revising here. Let more people get a chance to chime in.


I changed water to a "clouds" effect. I changed the title to Italia.

I also originally didn't like the drop shadow on the northern side (lands end) over the land as it makes italy appear to be floating - but the more I worked with it, the more I liked it. The country we are focusing on is Italy, why not have it stand out? If more people dislike than I will change.

I toyed with the Italian flag as a backdrop for the legend. Didn't work. I tried some big solid colored blocks - but it was too distracting. I'll also let more people voice their opinion on this, and if the masses speak, I will change.

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Postby Qwert on Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:09 pm

you dont need bridges in a sea just lines its good
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Postby Ruben Cassar on Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:18 pm

Fantastic! The sea is now perfect. Don't change it. Great job!

One small thing I noticed if you want to refine a bit. The Bonus on the Italian flag is not very clear as it is in white. Maybe you could use some other colour like blue. I suggested blue because the Italian sports teams use blue as the national colour. "Gli Azzurri". However any other colour or maybe using black to outline the outside of the word bonus can also work.
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Postby Wisse on Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:41 pm

Ruben Cassar wrote:Fantastic! The sea is now perfect. Don't change it. Great job!

One small thing I noticed if you want to refine a bit. The Bonus on the Italian flag is not very clear as it is in white. Maybe you could use some other colour like blue. I suggested blue because the Italian sports teams use blue as the national colour. "Gli Azzurri". However any other colour or maybe using black to outline the outside of the word bonus can also work.

you can also use outern glow in photoshop ;)
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Postby RjBeals on Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:50 pm

I used a drop shadow with the angle straight down and the spread = 2 ( i think). I dont think the word "Bonus" looks that bad?
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Postby onbekende on Wed Feb 14, 2007 2:08 pm

think about how to do the 4 border thing (whatever a goodnenglish name there is for that)

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Postby RjBeals on Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:58 pm

Not sure I understand. I see the intersection with the 4 areas - should it not be there?
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Postby Levon II on Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:54 pm

It looks great. I like the addition of bridges.
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Postby gavin_sidhu on Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:22 pm

i liked the diagonal lines, made ur map different to all the others, in a good way (thats what i think anyway). I would have liked the lines on the right of the map where you had two colours
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Postby MonRepos on Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:48 pm

Just a thought, east and West toscana look out of place
Shouldn't it be Toscana Est and Toscana Ovest being that th rest of the map is in Italian?
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Postby kclborat on Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:57 pm

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Postby sully800 on Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:21 am

RJ has image skillz 8)
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Postby onbekende on Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:34 am

RjBeals wrote:Not sure I understand. I see the intersection with the 4 areas - should it not be there?

a 4 border crossing always makes people wonder what if that can attack that, just move 1 border away from it
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Postby RjBeals on Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:22 am

1) Thanks for the compliments all.

2) I also liked the stripes in the water. However, as pointed out earlier, maybe staring at the map for a while during a game would strain the eyes? Easy to change back - just would like a little more feedback. Ruben Cassar & Lupo provided tons of feedback which I why I changed the lines upon Ruben's request.

3) I understand about the 4-way border. That will be fixed.

4) MonRepos great point. East & West Tuscnana will be translated.

5) Besides the 4-way intersection (which will be changed), anyone else see any playablity issues?
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Postby Ruben Cassar on Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:41 am

RjBeals wrote:1) Thanks for the compliments all.

2) I also liked the stripes in the water. However, as pointed out earlier, maybe staring at the map for a while during a game would strain the eyes? Easy to change back - just would like a little more feedback. Ruben Cassar & Lupo provided tons of feedback which I why I changed the lines upon Ruben's request.

3) I understand about the 4-way border. That will be fixed.

4) MonRepos great point. East & West Tuscnana will be translated.

5) Besides the 4-way intersection (which will be changed), anyone else see any playablity issues?


Yes I missed those two names. They should be changed to Italian in fact as he suggested. Please do not change the colour of the sea. It's not that I didn't like it before, but it put a strain on my eyes and I wouldn't be able to play this great map once it is quenched as much as I would like to, and not playing an Italian map is not an option for me! ;) No other major issues in my opinion.
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Postby RjBeals on Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:47 am

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1) Ruben - I changed the water to a grid pattern instead of the stripes. Does this work better?

2) Fixed East / West Tuscany Names

3) Changed Est / West Tuscan 4-way border.

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Postby Ruben Cassar on Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:50 am

No, sorry but that diagonal pattern hurts my eyes. :( Why can't we keep the one you had before?
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Postby RjBeals on Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:08 pm

We can - I was just providing an alternative - to see if was easier on the eyes. To me the stripes / grid pattern isn't that offensive. But it's not just me playing the map :wink:

The other "cloud" pattern is saved as a layer that I can replace the current grid pattern with. Your input is greatly appreciated. Where has Lupo been? Also great work on your Malta map - I've been watching it progress and am looking forward to playing that as well.
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Postby Ruben Cassar on Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:29 pm

RjBeals wrote:We can - I was just providing an alternative - to see if was easier on the eyes. To me the stripes / grid pattern isn't that offensive. But it's not just me playing the map :wink:

The other "cloud" pattern is saved as a layer that I can replace the current grid pattern with. Your input is greatly appreciated. Where has Lupo been? Also great work on your Malta map - I've been watching it progress and am looking forward to playing that as well.


Haven't seen Lupo for a while on the forum. Thanks for the compliment. I hope to finish it some day soon. :)
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Postby MarVal on Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:32 pm

Great map. Nice colors and graphics. Also I liked the sea.
Good job. I have no suggestions. It seems everything is done to make it a great playable gamemap

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Postby Ruben Cassar on Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:32 pm

Btw, you forgot to rename the seas as well.

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Postby RjBeals on Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:07 pm

Check out this link. I've created a flash file / slide show which shows 5 different variations on the seas. Pretty cool...

http://www.rjbeals.com/italy/italy_water.html
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Postby Fitz69 on Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:08 pm

Sweet map!
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Postby Ruben Cassar on Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:18 pm

RjBeals wrote:Check out this link. I've created a flash file / slide show which shows 5 different variations on the seas. Pretty cool...

http://www.rjbeals.com/italy/italy_water.html


Checked it out. This is my personal order of preference: 1, 2, 5, 4
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Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:26 pm

Great idea, with the flash file by the way. Easy to compare!

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