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Postby Ruben Cassar on Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:56 am

Marvaddin wrote:How about Italia map having 42 territories and Malta map (that minor minor TINY country) having 24 territories? This I can agree, although I think 32 should be the minimum of countries. You can make a map with less countries, but I dont think it should be Italia, since its an important country, and we have many insignificant areas that people wants to make a map of.

Corsica in Italia map??? ](*,)

And by the way Ireland is a very bad map. It just has graphics, nothing more.


Once again it's a matter of taste. I like the Ireland map.
I don't particularly like the Brazil map though (that huge huge ENORMOUS country)! :P

However maybe you are right...Italy is an important country and it deserves more regions. Maybe someone could do another version of Italy with more regions in the future. Have a go at it Marvaddin since you don't like this version!
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Postby gavin_sidhu on Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:55 am

You need to split up Emila-Romagna for playability purposes, otherwise this map is too much of a choke point. We already have a chokepoint map in Indochina.
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Postby RjBeals on Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:50 pm

1) Increased to 32 countries (trying to keep true to the Italian landscape)
2) Increased water routes
3) Created Po River inpassable border
4) Territory names are italian




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Postby Ruben Cassar on Fri Dec 15, 2006 2:27 pm

Use these names for the regions:
Abruzzo
Basilicata
Calabria
Campania
Emilia-Romagna
Friuli-Venezia Giulia
Lazio
Liguria
Lombardia
Marche
Molise
Piemonte
Puglia
Sardegna
Sicilia
Toscana
Trentino-Alto Adige
Umbria
Valle d'Aosta
Veneto

Use these names for the cities:
Roma
Torino
Milano

I would also add the word Parte in front of Meridionale in the legend. Italians use the word bonus as well if you want to use that for Roma bonus.

I must say the map is shaping up well. I like what you've done so far!
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Postby Ruben Cassar on Fri Dec 15, 2006 2:29 pm

In Sicilia you might consider the idea of using the main city Palermo instead of dividing it as North and South, just like you did with Milano, Roma and Torino.
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Postby RjBeals on Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:43 pm

Thanks for the feedback Ruben. I will use the Italian names use provided. I also considered using Palermo as the divided country for Sicily, but then thought it would be too small. But I could make it larger like Milano / Roma...

I want to start considering game play. The territories are placed (as close as possible) to actual borders. They may need to be slightly "re-divided" :? in order to keep a challenging fair game. Seeing as how I just got demoted to a private :cry: I might not be the best at determining this.

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Postby happysadfun on Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:17 pm

Eh.... the bonuses are horrible.
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Postby RjBeals on Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:22 pm

happysadfun wrote:Eh.... the bonuses are horrible.


Un-constructive feedback. What do you suggest?
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Postby happysadfun on Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:29 pm

Pink- 5
Bluegrey- 5
Insular- 5
Orange- 5
Green- 5 (Or 4, if you must)

It works! Include the cities (Milan, Turin, and Rome) in their respective continents as well as their own city +1 bonus. BTW, the Turin-Milan gap between them needs a name. Let's call it Monferatto, that's a decent city and range of Alpsian mountians...

And how about at least one "major city" for each continent. Palermo, Venice, Naples... these are ideas here.
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Postby cowshrptrn on Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:38 pm

Youv'e done a pretty good job trying to get rid of bottlenecks, but i tihnk Campania-Molise should be a bit wider. Maybe campania-pantalerria or something like that
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Postby Marvaddin on Sat Dec 16, 2006 12:15 am

Much better. But I dislike those bridges (ok, I know they arent, I just dont know the right word in English). And I think we could still have some readjust about countries. Some are very small, but there is still room for more, like in Sardinia, or Veneto. But like I said, 32 is ok to me.

2 Italy maps? Haha! Its an important country, and it deserves a decent map, but not 2. Should I design a 2nd Brazil map?? :)

Ruben Cassar wrote:I don't particularly like the Brazil map though (that huge huge ENORMOUS country)! :P

Its not the right place, mate. Post your point, I will change the graphics anyway, so I think there is a good oportunity to complain about playability.
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Postby Lupo on Sat Dec 16, 2006 3:07 am

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1.As i suggest you in a previous post, I would have preffered you splitted central and southern Italy in 3 continents instead of only 2.

2. the Po river idea works very well, but if possible, in the border between Liguria and Lombardia, could you use as unpassable border the Appenino mountains? in this way you could let the Po in its true position, without force it to follow Lombardia south-west border.

3. About bridges and harbours i would like you to make them different. There are many harbours in Italy, maybe you could use or a pretty harbour draft or you could put a monument or something peculiar with the city where the harbour is located.

4. Since Rome and Milan are the 2 main italian airports, you could give them the property to be linked by an airport connection.

5. you could take some ideas from the space map: if you add some more sea way connection between the harbours, you could transform the harbours into little territories and consider them as a continent.
The same it could be done with Rome and Milan (and maybe with some other airport you would like to introduce)...

6. you have to invert Trentino with South Tirol (you made a little mistake with names)

7. i would like you add Garda lake at the Veneto-Trentino-Lombardia border and use Mincio river as the natural border between Veneto and Lombardia.

8. i would llike to put some more unpassable border such as the Alps and the Appenino

9. Honeslty i dislike the way how you split Sicily...maybe you could let Sicily as it was before, adding only Palermo harbour and or airport.
the same i would say about Toscana, i would prefer if you added Florence airport, instead of spliting the whole region.

10. I still think that Corsica would work better in map playability than Pantelleria. Moreover, you placed Pantelleria in a complitely wrong position in order to make it in inside your map. I suggest you to consider Ustica in the place of Pantelleria, in the case you dislike corsica option.

11. i would like you added naples in the map if it were possible

12. you could add also Venice and togheter with Trieste transform them into harbours. Moreover, why did you linked Puglia with Friulli and not with Trieste? i would like you added also Genoa as harbour, inside Liguria.

13. So, at the end, you could have at least 3 more continents, made up by italian main cities: Adriatic harbours system, Tyrrenian harbours system and italian airport system. you could aso think about to divide Tyrrenian harbours system in 2 continents.

I have many others feedbacks, but for now let's see your opinion about these...
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Postby Ruben Cassar on Sat Dec 16, 2006 4:37 am

Whoaaa Lupo you are asking for a lot from the poor guy! Hehe. However I think that on some points I agree with you. The Garda and the mountains should be in the map for sure.

About the piers or bridges whatever they are he could keep the graphics for the two that are crossing the Po in Lombardia and Torino and change the other ones to harbours or something similar.
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Postby Balsiefen on Sun Dec 17, 2006 2:52 pm

just one thing, that map is on a really wierd slant, its almost on its side

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italy's more at this angle
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Postby Wisse on Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:10 pm

Balsiefen wrote:just one thing, that map is on a really wierd slant, its almost on its side

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italy's more at this angle

read before you post -.-"
this is done by himslelf to make the look better
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