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Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:11 pm
by ender516
I think you have to have something to separate rows from one another and cells within a row, so if you use only one code, you need some special syntax inside the code. Why make it special? Just use the [].

I don't know what you mean by [th].

Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:23 pm
by blakebowling
My original idea was to have BBCodes that went along with the HTML <table>, <tr>, <td>, and <th> tags. It was requested that I come up with a solution that uses only one BBCode. The only solution that fit this would be a CSV sort of system. So you would have a table tag [table], each set of cells would be Comma-Separated, and each set of rows would be semi-colon separated.

So input would look something like:
[table]1,2,3;A,B,C;[/table]
And output would look something like:
1 | 2 | 3
A | B | C

To summarize, my original solution would provide a wider array of options, and more customization, at the cost of ease-of-use. The second solution would provide an easier option to use, at the cost of options and customization.

I'm for the first solution, however I'm willing to pursue whatever the community is most supportive of.

If you want this done, please keep this suggestion afloat guys.

Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:43 am
by ender516
Using commas and semicolons to delimit the cells and rows would mean that those characters would need special treatment to appear in a cell. I would much prefer the first solution as well, as it seems to be the standard as described at BBCode.org. I didn't know about the [th] codes until just now, and they would be nice, but are hardly necessary, if, for example, the bold BBCode still works inside the [td] tag.

Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:23 am
by greenoaks
i am in favour of the 1st option. i can handle having to use 3 codes.

how difficult would it be to implement, with or without the buttons as i use strikethrough and color and there is no button for them

Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:47 am
by iamkoolerthanu
There are buttons for color

I really want this implemented lol

Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:32 am
by blakebowling
The first BBCode option would take literally a few minutes to implement (considering I've already written the codes, and all that needs to be done is Andy installing them on the website)

The second option would require a wholly new mod in phpBB (eg a bunch of code changes), so it would take much longer to implement.

Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:41 am
by ender516
blakebowling wrote:The first BBCode option would take literally a few minutes to implement (considering I've already written the codes, and all that needs to be done is Andy installing them on the website)

The second option would require a wholly new mod in phpBB (eg a bunch of code changes), so it would take much longer to implement.

Sounds like a no-brainer choice to me.

Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:16 pm
by greenoaks
blakebowling wrote:The first BBCode option would take literally a few minutes to implement (considering I've already written the codes, and all that needs to be done is Andy installing them on the website.

does this include shortcut buttons for ease of use

Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:09 pm
by blakebowling
greenoaks wrote:
blakebowling wrote:The first BBCode option would take literally a few minutes to implement (considering I've already written the codes, and all that needs to be done is Andy installing them on the website.

does this include shortcut buttons for ease of use

BBCodes are installed directly in the ACP, when you add a new BBCode, you have the option (it's a checkbox) to add the BBCode to the posting page. If you check that box, the button will appear on the posting page.

Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:44 pm
by greenoaks
that is a lot easier than i imagined.

please submit option 1 for implementation.

Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:13 pm
by blakebowling
greenoaks wrote:that is a lot easier than i imagined.

please submit option 1 for implementation.

It was submitted during a MOD's project that I was doing a while ago. However the admins thought it would be too complicated for the average user.

After we get some more people to comment on the options, and if a large majority say they prefer option 1, I'll get Andy and lack to review this thread.

Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:16 pm
by ender516
I would say that the average user never uses any of the BBCodes. Heck, most don't even use standard English. Anyone who finds it too complex can ask for help or ignore the feature, like they do with lists and bigimgs and gamelinks and playerlinks and url links and quotes and ...

Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:33 pm
by MrGlassB
This is a good idea, and I'm really surprised phpBB doesn't already have it integrated. Other forum software packages have had it for years. :-s

MGB

Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:38 am
by iamkoolerthanu
ender516 wrote:I would say that the average user never uses any of the BBCodes. Heck, most don't even use standard English. Anyone who finds it too complex can ask for help or ignore the feature, like they do with lists and bigimgs and gamelinks and playerlinks and url links and quotes and ...

:lol: :lol: =D> =D>

Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:50 am
by rdsrds2120
We could also put in a User Guide in Questions & Answers, like we have for many other Forum related difficulties.

-rd

Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:17 am
by Kinnison
Indeed. I like the idea of Option 1. For tournaments that aren't too involved (okay, some of mine ARE too involved), it would be a great help.

Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:59 am
by blakebowling
I'm going to sticky this. If we keep getting more support (TO's let your fellow TO's know), I'll move it to submitted.

Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:08 pm
by ender516
Would it be within the forum guidelines to start a topic in the Foundry Discussions forum to draw attention to this? I'm pretty sure a lot of mapmakers would appreciate the ability to post tabular data without going through hoops.

Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:42 pm
by blakebowling
ender516 wrote:Would it be within the forum guidelines to start a topic in the Foundry Discussions forum to draw attention to this? I'm pretty sure a lot of mapmakers would appreciate the ability to post tabular data without going through hoops.

I believe that would be fine, but to make sure I'd ask MrBenn.

Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:05 pm
by greenoaks
ender516 wrote:Would it be within the forum guidelines to start a topic in the Foundry Discussions forum to draw attention to this? I'm pretty sure a lot of mapmakers would appreciate the ability to post tabular data without going through hoops.

i started one yesterday in the TO's usergroup forum to encourage them to come here.

additional support could also come from Clan Leaders for tracking data in challenges and the SOC trainers. is there anyone here able to post there to let them know?

Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:06 pm
by drunkmonkey
I would love to see this implemented. It would be a great help for my tournament scoring.

Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:19 pm
by blakebowling
greenoaks wrote:
ender516 wrote:Would it be within the forum guidelines to start a topic in the Foundry Discussions forum to draw attention to this? I'm pretty sure a lot of mapmakers would appreciate the ability to post tabular data without going through hoops.

i started one yesterday in the TO's usergroup forum to encourage them to come here.

additional support could also come from Clan Leaders for tracking data in challenges and the SOC trainers. is there anyone here able to post there to let them know?

Posted in the CLA, and PM sent to mpjh to have him let other SoC teachers know (feel free to send PM's to leaders of areas like this in the future letting them know about suggestions that would benefit them).

Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:05 pm
by Dako
How hard can it be to type the following?

Code: Select all
[table]
[tr]
   [th][/th]
   [th][/th]
   [th][/th]
[/tr]
[tr]
   [td][/td]
   [td][/td]
   [td][/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
   [td][/td]
   [td][/td]
   [td][/td]
[/tr]
[/table]




Sure that users that need it will know the syntax and will use it properly.

Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:49 pm
by mpjh
OK, if this can help us create a table that identifies games with players from the same Training Ground (forum), then we certainly can use it.

Re: Add BBCode support for [table][/table]

PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:07 am
by alt1978
As a tournament organizer and a clan leader...i think there are a lot of things this could make easier. Uploading excel worksheets as a photo sucks. I'm not a tech guy but if i can use these buttons to figure out how to manipulate images of pigs...i'm pretty sure a table wouldn't be that hard to get the hang of.