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Do you agree with the concept of 3 different Military Paths, each with its own rank?

Yes, although I think the old path should still be an option (4-Path)
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Yes, I agree fully with qwert's proposed 3-Path System
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Yes, I want new ranks, but not the 3-Path System
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Yes, I like the new ranks but not the graphics
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No, the ranks are fine as they are
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Re: NEW Ranks

Postby Joodoo on Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:05 am

Blitzaholic wrote:
qwert wrote:I just thinking,that its better to create some new Ranks,to prevent these inflation of high Ranks,because now you have so many High ranked players,and now its quit easy to get High rank.
These is mine artistic view to new ranks definition. I hope that these will help Lack to implement some new ranks.
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I agree with you qwert on your names and a change, but the ranks I disagree a little, and I would suggest this and I think you are very close, but this may be more realistic, ok

Field Marshall 5000
General 4500
Brigadier 4300
Colonel 4000
Lieutenant Colonel 3800
Major 3500
Captain 3300
Lieutenant 3000
Warrant Officer 2800
Officer Candidate 2500
Sergant 1st Class 2300
Staff Sergant 2000
Corporal 1st Class 1800
Corporal 1500
Specialist 1300
Private 1st Class 1000
Private 800
Cadet 500
Cook 1
New Recruit ?


The reason being is once you get over 3000 score, especially 3500 score and higher it is extremely challenging to maintain and points are so difficult to come by, I think the gaps or separation should be a little closer and I would suggest what I typed in here may be a little more reasonable, but I do like your vision qwert. I would consider something on the lines I what i just mentioned and it is more reasonable, now in a year or 18 months from now, you all could re-examine this, but this would work and being challenging for many for the next year or more. I like the options of more lower ranks too because it is a lot of fun to attempt to shoot right up through them, and each one you hit and go higher feels very successful and quite an accomplishment for those that do. Respects, Blitz

You must remember it is very difficult to gain points past 3500, very difficult, you may get anywhere's from 3 to 10 points a game and less if you win, and when you lose it's like anywhere's from 40 to 80 and when you get past 4000 it's even harder where you must win at around 90% or go down in score, I tweaked mine a little cause you adjusted yours a little and maybe we can meet in the middle some, if you want to boost field marshal to 6000 then you need to bring up the higher ranks so there is not great big gaps at top and not bottom, make it equal, what I shown here is fair to all ranks, except field marshal I did give a 500 point gap at top as I did cook at bottom, all other ranks is 200 and 300 gaps, and it should be attainable, i mean by next year, I would think you may only have a few field marshal's out of 50,000 plus active players or more, thats not bad, and realistic.


good point Blitz :D
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Re: NEW RANKS-page 1

Postby Qwert on Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:32 am

Blits,you now have 21000 players,and if you take 5000 to be for Marshall then you have one player who is very close to hit 5000 pt, and you will have many more chance to have more then 2 MArshall when you have 50000 players. With 6000 pt its hard to get these rank,but these is normal that Higer rank be very very dificulty to get what is more realistic then to in 20000 players have 2 marshall, 5-6 generals,and 80-100 colonels.But ofcourse when we come to these point that Lack will want to implement new ranks and scoring,then all sugestion can be discused,and best option can be taken :wink:




by Joodoo on Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:46 pm

the new ranks seem quite good
is the specialist rank from counter strike because I have a friend who uses facebook and he said that a counter strike game in facebook has the rank of specialist?

No these is original rank from US army.
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Re: NEW RANKS-page 1

Postby samwisebrady on Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:43 am

what was wrong with the old ranks and i liked the raking score better as in lieutenant 1800 captain 2000 etc...
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Re: NEW RANKS-page 1

Postby Top Dog on Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:12 pm

add a poll so you can see most people say no, including me, just play risk people! and leave the rankings
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Re: NEW RANKS-page 1

Postby Splash_x on Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:23 pm

Its a good idea :P
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Re: NEW RANKS-page 1

Postby Blitzaholic on Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:58 am

[quote="qwert"]Blitz,you now have 21000 players,and if you take 5000 to be for Marshall then you have one player who is very close to hit 5000 pt, and you will have many more chance to have more then 2 MArshall when you have 50000 players. With 6000 pt its hard to get these rank,but these is normal that Higer rank be very very dificulty to get what is more realistic then to in 20000 players have 2 marshall, 5-6 generals,and 80-100 colonels.But ofcourse when we come to these point that Lack will want to implement new ranks and scoring,then all sugestion can be discused,and best option can be taken :wink:

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Qwert, I said 50,000 and maybe a 1, 2, or 3 field marshal's may occur about a year form now or 18 months, (I was projecting) we have NONE now and may not for many more months, and even if a player did hit it eventually, thats ok, by the time 1 or 2 players may hit it, the site will have grown with a lot more players, I think if and when it ever gets achieved, 1 field marshal out of 25,000 players, well, you do the math, its a 1 in 25,000 chance, so thats ok, let there be one, but again, no one has ever got over 5000, and only 1 player has reached 4700 and the dipped. Finally, field marshal has one L not two. peace
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Re: NEW Ranks

Postby Blitzaholic on Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:11 am

I agree with you qwert on your names and a change, but the ranks I disagree a little, and I would suggest this and I think you are very close, but this may be more realistic, ok

Field Marshall 5000
General 4500
Brigadier 4300
Colonel 4000
Lieutenant Colonel 3800
Major 3500
Captain 3300
Lieutenant 3000
Warrant Officer 2800
Officer Candidate 2500
Sergant 1st Class 2300
Staff Sergant 2000
Corporal 1st Class 1800
Corporal 1500
Specialist 1300
Private 1st Class 1000
Private 800
Cadet 500
Cook 1
New Recruit ?



You must remember it is very difficult to gain points past 3500, very difficult, and when you get past 4000 it's even harder where you must win at around 90% or go down in score.

If you want to boost field marshal to 6000 then you need to bring up the higher ranks so there is not great big gaps at top and not bottom, make it equal, what I shown here is fair to all ranks, except field marshal I did give a 500 point gap at top as I did cook at bottom, all other ranks is 200 and 300 gaps, and it should be attainable.

Again, I am ok with the 6000 for field marshal but make all the gaps in between ranks equal, like I have 200 and 300 in between all, and 500 at the very bottom and top. The 6000 is a much better realistic suggestion then the 10,000 was last year at this time. I tried to tell all back then the 10,000 was way way way too high and could not be done, and they said it would within a year, you'll see, well the year past and the highest was 4710, only 5300 points off. What I am saying is, maybe in the next 6 to 12 months you may get 1 to 3 players that will hit 5000, so what? nothing wrong with having 2 or 3 field marshal's out of the tens of thousands is my point. Better than having none and being forever away and taking about a year to get to 6000, and then what, raise it again? It is like you all dont want anyone to reach it? Whenever anyone gets even 1500 points away, you all wanna reraise it again, lol :lol:
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Re: NEW Ranks

Postby Blitzaholic on Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:15 am

Joodoo wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
qwert wrote:


I agree with you qwert on your names and a change, but the ranks I disagree a little, and I would suggest this and I think you are very close, but this may be more realistic, ok

Field Marshall 5000
General 4500
Brigadier 4300
Colonel 4000
Lieutenant Colonel 3800
Major 3500
Captain 3300
Lieutenant 3000
Warrant Officer 2800
Officer Candidate 2500
Sergant 1st Class 2300
Staff Sergant 2000
Corporal 1st Class 1800
Corporal 1500
Specialist 1300
Private 1st Class 1000
Private 800
Cadet 500
Cook 1
New Recruit ?

If you want to boost field marshal to 6000 then you need to bring up the higher ranks so there is not great big gaps at top and not bottom, make it equal, what I shown here is fair to all ranks, except field marshal I did give a 500 point gap at top as I did cook at bottom, all other ranks is 200 and 300 gaps


good point Blitz :D



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Re: NEW RANKS-page 1

Postby Qwert on Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:51 am

I agree with you qwert on your names and a change, but the ranks I disagree a little, and I would suggest this and I think you are very close, but this may be more realistic, ok

Field Marshall 5000
General 4500
Brigadier 4300
Colonel 4000
Lieutenant Colonel 3800
Major 3500
Captain 3300
Lieutenant 3000
Warrant Officer 2800
Officer Candidate 2500
Sergant 1st Class 2300
Staff Sergant 2000
Corporal 1st Class 1800
Corporal 1500
Specialist 1300
Private 1st Class 1000
Private 800
Cadet 500
Cook 1
New Recruit ?

Again you forget to put Sergeant in list :wink:
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Re: NEW Ranks

Postby yeti_c on Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:06 am

Blitzaholic wrote:Field Marshall 5000
General 4500
Brigadier 4300
Colonel 4000
Lieutenant Colonel 3800
Major 3500
Captain 3300
Lieutenant 3000
Warrant Officer 2800
Officer Candidate 2500
Sergant 1st Class 2300
Staff Sergant 2000
Corporal 1st Class 1800
Corporal 1500
Specialist 1300
Private 1st Class 1000
Private 800
Cadet 500
Cook 1
New Recruit ?


Personally, I think, these are way off mark...

Note that to be on the first page - i.e. the top 250 of the site - of 21380 active users... you need 2300 points...

Yet your ranks are so top heavy that officer level ranking starts at 3000 which at present is the top 36 of users of the site...

Which army did you ever see that had 21000 troops to 36 officers? (584 men per officer)

If your first officer was at 2000 - then you would have 605 officers to the 20775 which is a bit closer... (Approx 35 men per officer)

(And my per officer rating assumes no heirarchy)

I think that because you are a high scoring player - you feel that no-one but the best should be an officer... this just isn't right fair or just (about you).

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Re: NEW RANKS-page 1

Postby vrex on Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:28 am

personally i like joodoos suggestion at the top.. that way i would just go back down to being a sergeant which is what i was before the ranking change. with blitz suggestion i would fall all the way to corporal!! personally i like sergeant ranking being at or near 1400-1600 points but that is because i joined under that system of points...the REAlly old system... i have no idea what rank i would be... i didnt even know there was an older system :lol: but still when i look at it joodos suggestion grabs me better than blitzs... i really dont think to get to corporal first class that you need 1800 points... that is my 2 cents :P
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Re: NEW RANKS-page 1

Postby Qwert on Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:32 pm

Personally, I think, these are way off mark...

Note that to be on the first page - i.e. the top 250 of the site - of 21380 active users... you need 2300 points...

Yet your ranks are so top heavy that officer level ranking starts at 3000 which at present is the top 36 of users of the site...

Which army did you ever see that had 21000 troops to 36 officers? (584 men per officer)

If your first officer was at 2000 - then you would have 605 officers to the 20775 which is a bit closer... (Approx 35 men per officer)

(And my per officer rating assumes no heirarchy)

I think that because you are a high scoring player - you feel that no-one but the best should be an officer... this just isn't right fair or just (about you).

Are you talk abouth mine or Blitz sugestion?
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Re: NEW RANKS-page 1

Postby edwinissweet on Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:24 pm

i like it more than the new ranks
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Re: NEW RANKS-page 1

Postby yeti_c on Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:13 am

qwert wrote:
Personally, I think, these are way off mark...

Note that to be on the first page - i.e. the top 250 of the site - of 21380 active users... you need 2300 points...

Yet your ranks are so top heavy that officer level ranking starts at 3000 which at present is the top 36 of users of the site...

Which army did you ever see that had 21000 troops to 36 officers? (584 men per officer)

If your first officer was at 2000 - then you would have 605 officers to the 20775 which is a bit closer... (Approx 35 men per officer)

(And my per officer rating assumes no heirarchy)

I think that because you are a high scoring player - you feel that no-one but the best should be an officer... this just isn't right fair or just (about you).

Are you talk abouth mine or Blitz sugestion?


I quoted Blitz - therefore - I'm talking about Blitz's suggestion...

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Re: NEW RANKS-page 1

Postby matt c. on Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:34 pm

i think we should add these new ranks, because they it would be harder the gain rank
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