iAmCaffeine wrote:Personally I don't see the top three changing from S&M, TOFU and THOTA for a long time, whatever order you put them. After that you have the likes of FALL, TSM, EMP/ACE, LHDD, FOED, OSA etc again in no order.
I have been reading this thread for a while, and have been hearing about Thota since even longer.
First, how comes you that join CC in 2013 think Thota should be in top 3 ?
Second, ( I am ready to be lynched) I've looked at Thota record. Really not impressive imho. Everyone is totally overrating their achievement.
Sure I wasn't there when they were active, my first clan game was in 2012 and Thota last war was in December 2011.
I am just drawing conclusions from what I can see, here are my facts :
Couple of quote on Thota from this thread
Brucewar wrote:2. THOTA - The Clan to beat until KORT did it.
JBlombier wrote:When I entered CC, THOTA wasn't the clan to beat. It was the clan you couldn't beat. That doesn't apply to KoRT, but they reign in a different time.
Lindax wrote:The only reason THOTA was the most imposing was because they had all the good players and were the one and only clan back then.
Keefie wrote:My take on this is that Thota were undoubtedly the best for their time. However their time came before the clan scene exploded and competition became stronger.
Well, first, I don't think being the best when there is no competition is any kind of achievement. Which is what I understand from the quote above.
If I want to compare it with tennis, it's only so nice to see Federer playing because he has Nadal and Djokovic to face.
Watching Federer playing against any player out of top 10 isn't really interesting. He beat them but there is no match so you can't say Federer is amazing by watching those. If you don't have great competitor, you can't show how good you are.
So if Thota was undefeated at a time there was no one even able to face them, how can you say there were really strong ?
Then, looking at their record,( which I am assuming is complete), what did they do ?
They won 11 wars straight. They were the only clan undefeated, unbeatable, "the clan to beat', but they were the only clan undefeated also because they were active when clan world just started. And ok they were undefeated for 4 years, but it's only 11 wars.
Just looking at the numbers, KorT won 14 wars straight.
Pack won 12 wars straight.
If you look at the only major title they won ( because being inactive afterwards i get that), it's the CL1, they won it winning 65,6% of their game. If you look at the winner of the clan league aftewards, most of them are close to similar number( only check 3 leagues). LHDD won CL7 for example winning 63,6% of their match.
Thus it doesn't look to me like THOTA was dominating that much. Winning 65,6% of their match is a great score, winning the CL1 an achievement, but they weren't that much better that the other clans like some of you seems to say.
I understand they marked their time because they were one of the first clans, and they were the best clan for four years. Not saying they don't deserve to be in the top 10 clans of all time.
Just seems to me people are exaggerating their achievement.