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Re: 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:43 pm
by Lubawski
Chuuuuck wrote:Yes, jp, I will clarify about home teams being joined first. I also will try to have the power rankings up ASAP. Just haven't had time to combine them as of late.


Those power rankings are really old Chuck. I submitted mine over 4 months ago. A lot has happened since then. Do you think it is possible to have all clan leaders who are participating in the Cup submit power rankings (only for those involved) when sign-ups close. If we could get a one or two day turn around I think it would be possible.

Re: 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:52 pm
by Dako
TOFU is in.

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Secondary - Chariot of FIre

Re: 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:36 pm
by Chuuuuck
I asked for the votes half way through December and still received some around the new year. They aren't that old. You really want to do them again?

Re: 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:47 pm
by Lubawski
Chuuuuck wrote:I asked for the votes half way through December and still received some around the new year. They aren't that old. You really want to do them again?


For selfish reasons, yes. I think we are higher standing now than we were before the clan season ended. Same with both Myth and Devil's Brigade. Other clans, who I know I ranked pretty high turned out to be pretty poor in the league (and recent challenges since then). I just think things should be current. Some of the clans in here I don't even think were created at the time, but have shown up in challenges since and are looking either pretty good (better than a new clan--like TFFS) or pretty poor. I just think we should have fairly accurate (and recent) rankings to go by. You asked for them before December I think. I swear I answered those in November. If not, time is going really slow.

Re: 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:31 pm
by Bruceswar
Personally Seeding means jack shit. As long as you are not in the play in group then all is OK. If you are on the edge of the play in / in then you will also be OK as some clans are likely not to be playing again. Past that seeds mean nothing.. If you are good enough you will be able to take on anybody and do well. Remember you guys were the 4th seed(bumped to 3rd due to TSM sitting out) I am sure everybody will be seeded close to where they need to be. If not just win and things will take care of themselves.

Re: 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:00 pm
by Commander9
I'm rather excited about participating in this. Best of luck to all the clans in this great even and can't wait to face at least some of you in the battlefield.

Re: 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:08 am
by Chariot of Fire
Question.....

You have stipulated that games sent must already have been created. This makes it very easy via Game Finder to check what games your opponents have created. The only way to avoid this (and retain that rule) is to create one's games at the very last minute, which unfortunately will only serve to encourage unnecessary delays.

If you wish to adhere to this rule of games having to be created then the deadline should stipulate what time you are working to (e.g. midnight EST, GMT, etc) and not simply a date.

The alternative is to abolish this rule and replace it with a system whereby each clan PMs the game details to the TO who, upon receipt of a PM from each clan, instructs the two parties to create the games in accordance with the details submitted.

Cheers, and looking forward to a much fairer tournament this time round.

Re: 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:33 am
by Lubawski
Bruceswar wrote:Personally Seeding means jack shit. As long as you are not in the play in group then all is OK. If you are on the edge of the play in / in then you will also be OK as some clans are likely not to be playing again. Past that seeds mean nothing.. If you are good enough you will be able to take on anybody and do well. Remember you guys were the 4th seed(bumped to 3rd due to TSM sitting out) I am sure everybody will be seeded close to where they need to be. If not just win and things will take care of themselves.


I disagree. I don't think it will make all that much difference to the perennial favorites, but to clans who really gained ground (in my opinion) like Myth, DB, AoC it does matter. While others who I know I rated above those three have really tanked since then. It will make a pretty big difference whether someone is rated between the 7-11 rather than the 15+

Re: 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:44 am
by jpcloet
Lubawski wrote:I disagree. I don't think it will make all that much difference to the perennial favorites, but to clans who really gained ground (in my opinion) like Myth, DB, AoC it does matter. While others who I know I rated above those three have really tanked since then. It will make a pretty big difference whether someone is rated between the 7-11 rather than the 15+


Agreed, it may even extend to 7-20+ depending on how many sign up and the final structure of the bracket.

Re: 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:53 am
by Qwert
L4D in 21 place- hmm, its look that results not mean nothing, these is realy to much subjective way of determine ranking.

Re: 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:41 am
by pearljamrox2
Dynasty is in.


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Re: 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:10 am
by TheSaxlad
T4C are in,

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Secondary Contact: TheSaxlad

Re: 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:16 am
by TheSaxlad
also on the subjects of rankings, t4c arent even in the july rankings as we were set up some time in August. I know we will be close to the bottom if not at the bottom of the rankings, but it still makes sense to give us a chance to escape the play in rounds rather than condemn us straight away...

Re: 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:38 pm
by Bruceswar
Lubawski wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:Personally Seeding means jack shit. As long as you are not in the play in group then all is OK. If you are on the edge of the play in / in then you will also be OK as some clans are likely not to be playing again. Past that seeds mean nothing.. If you are good enough you will be able to take on anybody and do well. Remember you guys were the 4th seed(bumped to 3rd due to TSM sitting out) I am sure everybody will be seeded close to where they need to be. If not just win and things will take care of themselves.


I disagree. I don't think it will make all that much difference to the perennial favorites, but to clans who really gained ground (in my opinion) like Myth, DB, AoC it does matter. While others who I know I rated above those three have really tanked since then. It will make a pretty big difference whether someone is rated between the 7-11 rather than the 15+



This reminds me of the age old talk of NCAA March Madness... The whole idea is to win right? As long as you make the dance anything is possible.

Re: 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:47 pm
by the.killing.44
Bruceswar wrote:
Lubawski wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:Personally Seeding means jack shit. As long as you are not in the play in group then all is OK. If you are on the edge of the play in / in then you will also be OK as some clans are likely not to be playing again. Past that seeds mean nothing.. If you are good enough you will be able to take on anybody and do well. Remember you guys were the 4th seed(bumped to 3rd due to TSM sitting out) I am sure everybody will be seeded close to where they need to be. If not just win and things will take care of themselves.


I disagree. I don't think it will make all that much difference to the perennial favorites, but to clans who really gained ground (in my opinion) like Myth, DB, AoC it does matter. While others who I know I rated above those three have really tanked since then. It will make a pretty big difference whether someone is rated between the 7-11 rather than the 15+



This reminds me of the age old talk of NCAA March Madness... The whole idea is to win right? As long as you make the dance anything is possible.

That's not a valid comparison in the least, seeing how we're not playing 1 game.

But I see no reason to redo the rankings if we're using ones that are—egads—just over one whole month old! Hell, you guys (Empire) were ranked #3, if you want a measure of their usefullness.

Re: 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:34 pm
by Chuuuuck
I am working on compiling the new ones. I don't think there will be a new vote, the intent was always to use these and they won't change much from the votes that were 1 month ago. And it is asking a lot of work from a lot of different people.

Re: 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:46 pm
by maasman
Nemesis is in of course
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Re: 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:59 pm
by Emmdizzle
A Fistful of Sixes is in

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Re: 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:57 am
by ljex
Emmdizzle wrote:A Fistful of Sixes is in

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Secondary contact Emmdizzle


jackin-u-up does not exist

Re: 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:52 am
by LFAW

Re: 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:32 am
by jigger1986
Grim Reapers are in
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Re: 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:29 pm
by Eyestone
ljex wrote:
Emmdizzle wrote:A Fistful of Sixes is in

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Secondary contact Emmdizzle


jackin-u-up does not exist


This is all too easy. Can't you see he's just jackin' u up? 8-)

Re: 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:41 pm
by Lubawski
There are a lot of first timers in this. It's going to be exciting.

Bruce, comment after you join about how it should/should not be run. <wink, wink, nudge, nudge>

Re: 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:14 pm
by peanutsdad
Well Mythology is in. moving up in ranking is nice, it our goal in mythology to be one of the top clans. I think we showed in the league that we've improved, but we can always improve more. Another good showing would help solidify that though, so bring it on. Good Luck all ;-)

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Secondary: Peanutsdad

Re: 2nd Annual Conqueror's Cup!!

PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:30 pm
by TheMissionary
Memento Mori is in.

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Secondary: billy07