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Leehar wrote:Sorry to keep raising nonsensical issues, specially since I was the one to point out the 1v1's earlier. But if 3 of the 1v1's are tied and only 1 is won by a clan (or 1 tied, 3 won), and then the other clan wins the tiebreaker, would we not get back to a situation of a tied round?
chemefreak wrote:All-
From a clan leader and CD point of view...we can never have too many clan events. This one will probably qualify as a tournament. Privs will most likely be granted for players like in the CLA (this is still under discussion). Once everything is finalized we would encourage the Tournament Organizer to contact the CDs to discuss priv and medal specifics. As a tournament, most likely medals will only go to the winner. However, if there are too many byes for top ranked clans that might even become an issue.
At this point, keep up the good work, get your clans together and finalize your format based on who you get. Then contact the CDs to discuss some points before you "start". Don't get discouraged by the doubters BTW, the Legion is considering this tournament. We will see based on current load with lots of people on vacation whether we can participate.
Cheers.
Lindax wrote:chemefreak wrote:All-
From a clan leader and CD point of view...we can never have too many clan events. This one will probably qualify as a tournament. Privs will most likely be granted for players like in the CLA (this is still under discussion). Once everything is finalized we would encourage the Tournament Organizer to contact the CDs to discuss priv and medal specifics. As a tournament, most likely medals will only go to the winner. However, if there are too many byes for top ranked clans that might even become an issue.
At this point, keep up the good work, get your clans together and finalize your format based on who you get. Then contact the CDs to discuss some points before you "start". Don't get discouraged by the doubters BTW, the Legion is considering this tournament. We will see based on current load with lots of people on vacation whether we can participate.
Cheers.
From a Tournament Director point of view: Wouldn't one want to have the privileges, medals issues and "a finalized format" solved before one even asks participants to sign up? Or, form the other perspective: Wouldn't one want those issues solved before one signs up?
Seems a bit like putting the horse behind the carriage here....
Lx
Lindax wrote:chemefreak wrote:All-
From a clan leader and CD point of view...we can never have too many clan events. This one will probably qualify as a tournament. Privs will most likely be granted for players like in the CLA (this is still under discussion). Once everything is finalized we would encourage the Tournament Organizer to contact the CDs to discuss priv and medal specifics. As a tournament, most likely medals will only go to the winner. However, if there are too many byes for top ranked clans that might even become an issue.
At this point, keep up the good work, get your clans together and finalize your format based on who you get. Then contact the CDs to discuss some points before you "start". Don't get discouraged by the doubters BTW, the Legion is considering this tournament. We will see based on current load with lots of people on vacation whether we can participate.
Cheers.
From a Tournament Director point of view: Wouldn't one want to have the privileges, medals issues and "a finalized format" solved before one even asks participants to sign up? Or, form the other perspective: Wouldn't one want those issues solved before one signs up?
Seems a bit like putting the horse behind the carriage here....
Lx
reptile wrote:Lindax wrote:chemefreak wrote:At this point, keep up the good work, get your clans together and finalize your format based on who you get.
From a Tournament Director point of view: Wouldn't one want to have the privileges, medals issues and "a finalized format" solved before one even asks participants to sign up? Or, form the other perspective: Wouldn't one want those issues solved before one signs up?
Seems a bit like putting the horse behind the carriage here....
Lx
agreed
jpcloet wrote:At some point as TO's, we have to stop catering to all clans and trying to get all clans into all events. The NC had no top 20 clans yet is considered a great event IMO. Byes should happen due to structure and number of clans, not to cater to clans who happen to be busy.
jpcloet wrote:At some point as TO's, we have to stop catering to all clans and trying to get all clans into all events. The NC had no top 20 clans yet is considered a great event IMO. Byes should happen due to structure and number of clans, not to cater to clans who happen to be busy.
ljex wrote:jpcloet wrote:At some point as TO's, we have to stop catering to all clans and trying to get all clans into all events. The NC had no top 20 clans yet is considered a great event IMO. Byes should happen due to structure and number of clans, not to cater to clans who happen to be busy.
When you really look at it the byes only increase the competitiveness of the event, and give lower ranked/newer clans a greater chance to make a splash in the clan community with an upset.
Say for arguments 32 teams sign up, well if there are no byes, then 32nd ranked clan takes on the 1st ranked clan, the chances of them winning are slim to none. Now lets say the first round is 17-32, then the winner of those 8 vs 9-16, then the winners vs the top 8 so on. At every round the games should be more competitive as the competition will be more even which IMO is better for the clan community as a whole. Sure the top clan sits out 3 or however many rounds it is, but in all seriousness the top clans first 2 match-ups are essentially a formality if a decent number of clans enter.
Leehar wrote:BoganGod wrote:9clans have registered so far, and some of them have done so without a protracted and agonizing attempt at thinking aloud in thread.
Yes, and the most common theme is that all of them with the exception of you as hosts were formed within the last year and are still at the back end of most ladders? For gathering mid-rank clans at the least, you don't seem to have done such a great job?
All I'm worried about is trying to make it more appealing for the rest of us, which obviously hasn't happened. I just put down my thoughts about why that could be so.
Rather than negativity, I'm just trying to find a way to make it more inclusive than it seems to be right now, and for that more than just dehumanizing me and my clan for making my comments, why can't we try and find out why clans like bss, legion, aod, bpb, g1, dyn and even myth (despite shocked's sentiments) etc aren't clamoring at the door to join this, since I would assume they're the ones an event like this should be shooting for - rather than the ones you currently have who I suspect aren't as aware of what exactly they're getting into...
jpcloet wrote:At some point as TO's, we have to stop catering to all clans and trying to get all clans into all events. The NC had no top 20 clans yet is considered a great event IMO. Byes should happen due to structure and number of clans, not to cater to clans who happen to be busy.
WPBRJ wrote:well to be honest i see some middle clans in this tournament i don't see any top clans but to be fair if clans have 3 weeks to join why do they all have to jump right in right away?
most middle of the road clans have been around the block a few times and will talk to there clan mates the newer clan jump right away because they have not been around and are eager to play its just that simple and most middle clans will jump when the time is right and will join i think!
Leehar wrote:jpcloet wrote:At some point as TO's, we have to stop catering to all clans and trying to get all clans into all events. The NC had no top 20 clans yet is considered a great event IMO. Byes should happen due to structure and number of clans, not to cater to clans who happen to be busy.
Also tbh, I wasn't very well disposed with how the NC played out. It's always a danger when you have a mix of old campaigners and new, that there's a huge risk of blow-outs. It was proved last year in Div 2A with Tofu's blow-outs victory's, and similarly here where I doubt you can say it was any different for teams like wd, O66 etc. When you have that blend of some experience and none, it's a lot worse than one with lots of experience and some, as can be proved in games where things like OSA-LoW are so much closer than OSA-O66/Pack-WD.WPBRJ wrote:well to be honest i see some middle clans in this tournament i don't see any top clans but to be fair if clans have 3 weeks to join why do they all have to jump right in right away?
most middle of the road clans have been around the block a few times and will talk to there clan mates the newer clan jump right away because they have not been around and are eager to play its just that simple and most middle clans will jump when the time is right and will join i think!
Similar to my point with how it still does need a bit of discussion to decide whether it's worth taking part or not, which is why it's useful to discuss the points rather than sweepingly reject any and all statements as negativity and say: 'sign-up or get-out'
eddie2 wrote:leehar i dont want to sound bad but you have not signed up to this tourney yet. plz either sign up or shut up. your opinion would count if you joined and im sure your opinion would be disscused if you did. but at present you have not put your name forward for this. so as a clan that is not participating it has nothing to do with you.
what i mean by this is as follows.
you were not happy with one thing. so dj changed it did you sign up then nooooo. you complained about something else. instead of this join then comment and when it is about to start if you are not happy with the settings pull out. you have not commited to this event commite the say your thoughts.
BoganGod wrote:Have you had the time to acquire or have prior knowledge of the FA cup? There is also precedence in tournaments on CC for higher seeded players/teams to have byes for the first few rounds of a tournament.
BoganGod wrote:So is your clan in jp?
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