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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Postby lord voldemort on Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:09 pm

I just want the next round to start already
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Postby Leehar on Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:02 am

Conquer Rome is holding us up I think ;)
Can't decide 3rd/4th without it, and it's been going since the first week!
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Postby lord voldemort on Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:07 am

Leehar wrote:Conquer Rome is holding us up I think ;)
Can't decide 3rd/4th without it, and it's been going since the first week!

Wait so is the top 4 actually decided...or are we deciding 4-5/6th?
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Postby ahunda on Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:14 am

KORT, PACK & EMP are through.

IA & AOC battling over 4th spot.
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Postby Leehar on Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:21 am

Yup whoops, 4th/5th!

If IA win Conquer Rome, they join us and Pack on 8 points; if AoC win, they join IA on 7 points and adv due to WP?
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Postby Great-Ollie on Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:17 am

ahunda wrote:KORT, PACK & EMP are through.

IA & AOC battling over 4th spot.


Well congrats Empire and Kort on some well fought games! Se you in the finals. On a side note i am really impressed with Empires play after our clan war. They could have easily just fell apart but they have seemed to come back very strong which may =D> be bad news for us all in the final!
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Postby Leehar on Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:41 pm

Thanks Ollie, we've also learnt to recognise you guys as some tough competitors ;)

Also, I'm still not exactly sure how it works, and I probably have no impact on the decision, but I'd like to nominate the following for MVP from Empire (as people who made my organising job so much easier with their brilliant performances :lol: ):

The retiring Dwilhelmi, who's an overall mvp candidate for the second successive year!
12 wins, 4 defeats

The stalwart mudfighter, who's been our silent assassin in steadily going about his business
10 wins (soon to be another with Imperium?!), and only 2 defeats! (I honestly think thats the best WP in the whole league!)

Probably the only other person who can combat our dominating duo, is the the Honourable Head CD, bruceswar, with a 15-5 record :(
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Postby betiko on Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:41 pm

Great-Ollie wrote:
ahunda wrote:KORT, PACK & EMP are through.

IA & AOC battling over 4th spot.


Well congrats Empire and Kort on some well fought games! Se you in the finals. On a side note i am really impressed with Empires play after our clan war. They could have easily just fell apart but they have seemed to come back very strong which may =D> be bad news for us all in the final!


mate, I think next round is still not the final; 2 get eliminated and then comes the round 4 which is the final :lol: :lol:
the format is a bit long like that imo..
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Postby betiko on Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:45 pm

Leehar wrote:Thanks Ollie, we've also learnt to recognise you guys as some tough competitors ;)

Also, I'm still not exactly sure how it works, and I probably have no impact on the decision, but I'd like to nominate the following for MVP from Empire (as people who made my organising job so much easier with their brilliant performances :lol: ):

The retiring Dwilhelmi, who's an overall mvp candidate for the second successive year!
12 wins, 4 defeats

The stalwart mudfighter, who's been our silent assassin in steadily going about his business
10 wins (soon to be another with Imperium?!), and only 2 defeats! (I honestly think thats the best WP in the whole league!)

Probably the only other person who can combat our dominating duo, is the the Honourable Head CD, bruceswar, with a 15-5 record :(


the best wp on our end is jghost7 with 9-2 so the best knwon wp is still mudfighter so far! ;)
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Postby Rodion on Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:17 pm

What are the rules for MVP?

Personally, I think it should be winning percentage after you control for a minimum number of games (so that someone with 1 game and 1 win is not awarded for his 100% performance).
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Postby josko.ri on Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:54 pm

in my opinion, the MVP player needs to play at least 50% of maximal games that he was able to play. in addition, I think Phase 1&2 should be considered together. that said, I think MVP player should be the one with the best winning % among all players who played 24 or more games (of 48 possible).
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Postby Rodion on Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:02 pm

I don't think Phase 1 should be considered as we all played against different opposition.

The 50% of maximum game rules is the one Lindax uses for TLO. That would be 14 out of 28.

Mudfighter would be ineligible with his 11-2, but we could give him a loss to complete the minimum of 14 and have him compete as an 11-3 (78.57% wins). I believe he would still win.
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Postby lord voldemort on Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:44 pm

Lol...his run is ridiculous...the minimum is alot though. I think we would only have 3-4 guys in our whole clan who actually played that many. We spread ours around alot and not rely on 1 or 2 individuals.
Though the general formula of win% after a minimum # of games is good
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Postby Chariot of Fire on Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:21 am

It's not really equitable to draw a comparison to the TLO's 50% game rule because the quota restrictions are so different. In the TLO a player can join as many as 6 of the 9 games each round (67%) whereas in the League the restrictions in place are for a maximum of 4 games out of the 12 (33%) and 10 players must be used to encourage greater diversity of participation. On this basis the net should be widened to accommodate those clans who have distributed the games more equitably between their players (but don't ask me what that figure should be). Another concept that proved successful in CL1 was to have a vote. Each clan submits its representative and a poll is created with the players' stats. This can be done in the CLA forum where there is no majority favouring one particular clan.
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Update

Postby Teflon Kris on Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:17 am

Scores & Table updated.

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