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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 3

Postby IcePack on Wed May 30, 2012 10:41 pm

chemefreak wrote:
IcePack wrote:From the rules:
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-Each round no one player should play more than 35% of the games, 4 game maximum per player per round.
-No restriction on who plays in what game.
-There needs to be a minimum of 10 different players per set


I only count 7 players utilized in this away set, am I missing something?
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I think they are using 10 players for the ENTIRE set (including their home games) so that is not the issue...the problem is the use of about 5 players in more than 4 games!


My impression based on viewing other games, is that sets are "home set" and "away set" otherwise, i think a lot of people would be having issues with people playing more then 4 games if you are combining home and away....and the rules dont really make it very clear which is which, from what I've looked at.

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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 3

Postby chemefreak on Wed May 30, 2012 10:44 pm

IcePack wrote:
chemefreak wrote:
IcePack wrote:From the rules:
Players

-Each round no one player should play more than 35% of the games, 4 game maximum per player per round.
-No restriction on who plays in what game.
-There needs to be a minimum of 10 different players per set


I only count 7 players utilized in this away set, am I missing something?
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I think they are using 10 players for the ENTIRE set (including their home games) so that is not the issue...the problem is the use of about 5 players in more than 4 games!


My impression based on viewing other games, is that sets are "home set" and "away set" otherwise, i think a lot of people would be having issues with people playing more then 4 games if you are combining home and away....and the rules dont really make it very clear which is which, from what I've looked at.

IcePack


35% of 12 is 4 (rounded down) so that is what the rule means. I haven't been checking, but that was my understanding of the rule.
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 3

Postby IcePack on Wed May 30, 2012 10:47 pm

Hmm...well I came into this halfway thru, so I could very well be wrong. But I think there will be more issues if that's the case.

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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 3

Postby chemefreak on Wed May 30, 2012 10:51 pm

IcePack wrote:Hmm...well I came into this halfway thru, so I could very well be wrong. But I think there will be more issues if that's the case.

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I just looked at our ongoing games and don't see where any other clan used a player more than 4 times against us. It should be easy to see if there are any offenders....once all the games are joined for the final round, do a tournament stats search on the division and see if any player has more than 28 games played...if they do, they have played in more than 4 in at least one of their matches.
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 3

Postby Keefie on Wed May 30, 2012 10:56 pm

I've been very careful not to play a player in more than 4 games per match. Any clan that does should be penalised per the rules.
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 3

Postby chemefreak on Wed May 30, 2012 11:03 pm

Keefie wrote:I've been very careful not to play a player in more than 4 games per match. Any clan that does should be penalised per the rules.


Agreed. The most in our division so far (with the last games not completely joined) is 23...so it seems everyone has been following the rule...at least overall.
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 3

Postby IcePack on Wed May 30, 2012 11:13 pm

chemefreak wrote:
Keefie wrote:I've been very careful not to play a player in more than 4 games per match. Any clan that does should be penalised per the rules.


Agreed. The most in our division so far (with the last games not completely joined) is 23...so it seems everyone has been following the rule...at least overall.


Tbh, I thought even I broke this rule. Spent the last however long since you mentioned it until now looking at our games. I dont see any busts on our side either, so perhaps I am wrong.

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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 3

Postby IcePack on Thu May 31, 2012 2:13 pm

Please transfer all responsibilities for CL4 Div 3 KOA back to Jefjef.
All games have been decided / listed, so there shouldn't be an issue in completion of this phase.

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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 3

Postby WPBRJ on Thu May 31, 2012 3:50 pm

IcePack wrote:Please transfer all responsibilities for CL4 Div 3 KOA back to Jefjef.
All games have been decided / listed, so there shouldn't be an issue in completion of this phase.

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just a few things first off jefjef has very much indicated he wants nothing to do with this event so this is not a option to turn responsibility back to him i wont go thru what he put us thru last time all over again.

and as far as game count and how many players per round its a minimum of 10 player total away and home total per round and a max of 4 game per player out of the 12 games home and away.
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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 3

Postby IcePack on Thu May 31, 2012 3:58 pm

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All games have been decided / listed, so there shouldn't be an issue in completion of this phase.

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just a few things first off jefjef has very much indicated he wants nothing to do with this event so this is not a option to turn responsibility back to him i wont go thru what he put us thru last time all over again.

and as far as game count and how many players per round its a minimum of 10 player total away and home total per round and a max of 4 game per player out of the 12 games home and away.


Per my PM to DJ, merch and now yourself, you can decide what you'd like to do. But I am as of today no longer a KOA point of contact.

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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 3

Postby Finsfleet on Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:41 pm

Two of our games still without a player

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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 3

Postby Keefie on Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:03 am

I know, I'm dealing with it.
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Update

Postby Teflon Kris on Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:12 am

Table, Scores and Links updated.

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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 3

Postby Teflon Kris on Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:15 am

Interesting that IcePack replaced JefJef as KOA contact due to JefJef threatening to withdraw from the competition. IcePack then withdraws, JefJef asks to replace him, then tries to withdraw the clan.

As it stands KOA may not qualify for Phase 3 - if they do then it would perhapsbe appropraite that they have contacts in place that do not threaten to, or attempt to withdraw.

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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 3

Postby Teflon Kris on Sat Jun 02, 2012 4:17 am

If a player plays in more than 4 games in any one round then any games beyond the 4 (highest numbered games) cannot be a win for that players clan. If they are, then the result is changed to a draw. If the opposing, non-offending clan wins then the result naturally stands.

I will ask merch to update me on any games where results need to be changed and update the scores and table accordingly.

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