[Medal] Raise Achievement Medal Cap from 30 to Whatever

by **BGtheBrain** on Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:22 pm

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by **John Deere** on Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:31 pm

BGtheBrain wrote:
betiko wrote:yeah i think it's not normal that HA isn't the guy with the most medals on the site.
On the other hand, i think it's a pitty to play clan wars mostly vs the worse clans over and over on the site just to get 50 medals. TNC has talented players and should play less and better opponents, they would be a much higher ranked clan.

Can I count this as a challenge from Pack?
If so we accept. Terms to be decided at a later date.

No its not a challenge. None of us will make that call till we all talk (the whole clan), we will not even be attempting to talk till some time the first part of next year. But we will be looking for a good clan to challenge and your clan will be in the talks!

by **betiko** on Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:45 pm

agentcom wrote:I'm not sure about giving a new medal for each thing above 30 for any of the achievement medals. Like chap said, handing 290 tournament medals to HA seems a bit excessive. What about a system like with regular medals, where you get a new medal eventually, but the award rate decreases.

Maybe for tourneys and clan wars something like 50, 100, 200. For things like tourney wins you could space them out a little more even.

There was a mention of this in the Newsletter the other day pertaining to the Foundry. It seems like you should continue gaining recognition beyond 30 for something like designing a map.

Also, the space limitations wouldn't be a problem if you awarded medals like this because Roman numerals for these "round" numbers don't take up too much space.

what about the same graphic and different colours to represent bronze, silver and gold? you need 30 bronze then you start with the 1st silver until you reach 30 ect... in that way, you could get 90 per medal type.

by **agentcom** on Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:48 pm

I think 90 medals of a certain type is a little excessive. I was thinking about roman numerals and I was thinking that just using those would be good. So at 50, you'd get a new medal with an L on it. Maybe you go in increments of 50. So at a certain point it wouldn't really be about medals (as I'm pretty sure is the case now for the small group of people with 100+ tourney wins, 30+ clan wins, 30 maps made, etc.). It would be a prestige thing. You're only getting one medal per 50 of whatever, but you might be one of only a handful of people that has an "L" or a "C" on your profile. If HA comes back to active participation here, I think it would be cool to see a tourney medal with "CCC" on it.

Bottom line for me is that when those guys hit those high amounts of achievements, I don't think it's about the medal count anymore. But it would be nice to recognize the people that have gone beyond the "XXX" level.

by **IcePack** on Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:11 pm

agentcom wrote:Maybe for tourneys and clan wars something like 50, 100, 200. For things like tourney wins you could space them out a little more even.

I like this, one each for first 30. then sparingly used as the numbers grow higher. What those numbers are TBD, but a great idea. +1

by **TheCrown** on Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:41 pm

Can we at least get a tab like the tourneys have? So that we can see when we get up to 290 clan war wins?

by **Chewie1** on Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:30 pm

TheCrown wrote:Can we at least get a tab like the tourneys have? So that we can see when we get up to 290 clan war wins?

Does seem like double standards... you can get unlimited medals for winning tourneys, but not clan wars...not a lot of difference.

Lets say for arguements sake The crown and I were the best Dubs team on planet earth we could earn our medals in dubs tourneys against lesser dubs players but our respective clans couldnt get medals for more than 30 wars..doesnt ring true.

by **BGtheBrain** on Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:33 pm

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by **MoB Deadly** on Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:40 pm

betiko wrote:highlander attack has won 290 tourneys. should there be no limit on the roman figure?

Oh. I really did not know that they weren't tallied anywhere. I thought that the "medal image" maxed out at XXX, but I thought he still got credit for it on his medal count. That's truly a shame that it does not show up anywhere except in the database. He was one of the most active and most contributing players of all time in the tournament world. I think it should be in the record books without a doubt.

by **BGtheBrain** on Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:53 pm

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by **chapcrap** on Thu Oct 25, 2012 4:28 pm

Chewie1 wrote:
TheCrown wrote:Can we at least get a tab like the tourneys have? So that we can see when we get up to 290 clan war wins?

Does seem like double standards... you can get unlimited medals for winning tourneys, but not clan wars...not a lot of difference.

This is completely false. The cap is 30 for all medals.

by **agentcom** on Thu Oct 25, 2012 5:42 pm

MoB Deadly wrote:
betiko wrote:highlander attack has won 290 tourneys. should there be no limit on the roman figure?

Oh. I really did not know that they weren't tallied anywhere. I thought that the "medal image" maxed out at XXX, but I thought he still got credit for it on his medal count. That's truly a shame that it does not show up anywhere except in the database. He was one of the most active and most contributing players of all time in the tournament world. I think it should be in the record books without a doubt.

Which is why it would be nice to get another medal with a new symbol that rolls over every 50-100 achievements. HA would be the only person with a "CC" on his medal. And he'd be one of three with a "CC" on a tourney organizer medal. But the site would only have to give him a handful more medals, so he wouldn't just fly ahead on the medal scoreboard.

Maybe he'd get 3 more medals in each category: "L", "C", and "CC" for 50, 100 and 200, respectively.

by **TheCrown** on Thu Oct 25, 2012 5:47 pm

yeah... and the top medal guy should get some kind of special token or designation as well.... like Gen. Gettinghed has the conqueror token.

by **agentcom** on Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:29 pm

I don't know if I'd go that far ...

by **chapcrap** on Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:52 am

TheCrown wrote:yeah... and the top medal guy should get some kind of special token or designation as well.... like Gen. Gettinghed has the conqueror token.

YES!! A medal for getting medals!

by **TheCrown** on Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:21 pm

chapcrap wrote:
TheCrown wrote:yeah... and the top medal guy should get some kind of special token or designation as well.... like Gen. Gettinghed has the conqueror token.

YES!! A medal for getting medals!

Not a medal.... a special designator... :ugeek:

by **agentcom** on Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:00 pm

This is now getting away from the OP ... not saying the ideas or bad, but if someone wants to it might be the topic for another suggestion. TheCrown, you not that it would be a special designator like the conqueror rank is. That's kind of a cool idea. You could even go further and give a special designator to all the recognized and tracked scoreboard categories:

Games Completed - some sort of "veteran" symbol
Games Won - something else
Medals - TheCrown's suggestion, maybe a generic medal icon
Rating - I don't know, a little smiley face or a star and a requirement that you have to play 100 games or something like that before you qualify for the designator

Just thought I'd throw those ideas out there if anyone does want to follow up on this in a new thread.

by **chapcrap** on Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:44 pm

agentcom wrote:This is now getting away from the OP ... not saying the ideas or bad, but if someone wants to it might be the topic for another suggestion. TheCrown, you not that it would be a special designator like the conqueror rank is. That's kind of a cool idea. You could even go further and give a special designator to all the recognized and tracked scoreboard categories:

Games Completed - some sort of "veteran" symbol
Games Won - something else
Medals - TheCrown's suggestion, maybe a generic medal icon
Rating - I don't know, a little smiley face or a star and a requirement that you have to play 100 games or something like that before you qualify for the designator

Just thought I'd throw those ideas out there if anyone does want to follow up on this in a new thread.

I was semi-on board with this until you said rating. That's the most absurd thing on the scoreboard.

by **Nicky15** on Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:36 am

My personal opinion is that if you win a tournament or clan war you should get your medal for it.

As far as Clan wars go, the CD team will be pushing for a fix. But i suspect this will take time. In the meantime we will keep a record of all those affected. Hopefully we will have the opportunity to back date the medals owed eventually.

by **Chewie1** on Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:14 am

Nicky15 wrote:My personal opinion is that if you win a tournament or clan war you should get your medal for it.

As far as Clan wars go, the CD team will be pushing for a fix. But i suspect this will take time. In the meantime we will keep a record of all those affected. Hopefully we will have the opportunity to back date the medals owed eventually.

by **Dukasaur** on Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:24 pm

Just as I don't believe that one should be able to get to the top of the points scoreboard by only playing one kind of game, I also don't think you should be able to get to the top of the medals scoreboard by only engaging in one kind of activity.

Someone who organises 80 million tournaments still only gets 30 tournament medals, while someone who wins 80 million clan wars still only gets 30 clan medals. A more balanced player who organises 25 tournaments and wins 25 clan wars will have more medals than either of them. There's nothing wrong with that. The first two players may have spectacular achievements in their respective areas, but the third guy is a more balanced member of the community.

At some point it might be a good idea to raise the limit, but a limit of some kind there should be.

by **greenoaks** on Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:07 am

Dukasaur wrote:Just as I don't believe that one should be able to get to the top of the points scoreboard by only playing one kind of game, I also don't think you should be able to get to the top of the medals scoreboard by only engaging in one kind of activity.

Someone who organises 80 million tournaments still only gets 30 tournament medals, while someone who wins 80 million clan wars still only gets 30 clan medals. A more balanced player who organises 25 tournaments and wins 25 clan wars will have more medals than either of them. There's nothing wrong with that. The first two players may have spectacular achievements in their respective areas, but the third guy is a more balanced member of the community.

At some point it might be a good idea to raise the limit, but a limit of some kind there should be.

i totally agree.

limits encourage those that care about their medal count to participate in or contribute to other parts of this site.

by **betiko** on Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:57 pm

greenoaks wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:Just as I don't believe that one should be able to get to the top of the points scoreboard by only playing one kind of game, I also don't think you should be able to get to the top of the medals scoreboard by only engaging in one kind of activity.

Someone who organises 80 million tournaments still only gets 30 tournament medals, while someone who wins 80 million clan wars still only gets 30 clan medals. A more balanced player who organises 25 tournaments and wins 25 clan wars will have more medals than either of them. There's nothing wrong with that. The first two players may have spectacular achievements in their respective areas, but the third guy is a more balanced member of the community.

At some point it might be a good idea to raise the limit, but a limit of some kind there should be.

i totally agree.

limits encourage those that care about their medal count to participate in or contribute to other parts of this site.

+1. Otherwise I'm such a medal whore that I would organize 10 touraments per week! :lol:

Also I think it's good to know there is a max acheivement and that it's not endless.. Nevertheless; there is a tournament hall of fame, I think there should be a clan members hall of fame where you can see the total wars won per player and per clan, just in the same format. Otherwise in the case of TNC there is no recognition for 30+ wars won... could be 30, could be 100, no one would know! you do know for tournament winners and organizers!

other than this, I do think being with the most medals on the site is an acheivement as important as being the player with the most points, so yeah, a special icon/medal wouldn't be undeserved IMO.

by **agentcom** on Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:31 pm

This is something that the admin have recently become interested in for whatever reason. Therefore, I am going to STICKY this to draw some more attention to it.

My vote is still to maintain the tradition of the roman numerals and award additional medals at a staggered level of perhaps 50 ("L"), 100 ("C") and 200 ("CC").

There will still be an imbalance in how easy medals are to earn, but I don't really see the problem of having someone like Highlanderattack getting 3 more medals for all the tourneys he's organized. And I can't wait to see cairns get the only "L" cartography medal