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Do you agree with the concept of 3 different Military Paths, each with its own rank?

Yes, although I think the old path should still be an option (4-Path)
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Yes, I agree fully with qwert's proposed 3-Path System
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Yes, I want new ranks, but not the 3-Path System
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Yes, I like the new ranks but not the graphics
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No, the ranks are fine as they are
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby Blitzaholic on Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:23 pm

qwert wrote:
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Excellent Job on implementing more ranks and they seem to be well thought out and distributed fairly.

my change of your 23 ranks on score would be this:

You like mine ranks,thanks,blitz,but people more like Mrbeen, so for now i quit work on ranks. For these its need very large support.



yes, I like them

mr bean are nice too

both did great with this
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby OliverFA on Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:06 am

I created a three examples tables of how the percentage value could work. I borrowed Mr.Benn's ranks for it.

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By the way, I just thougt... Maybe (just maybe) the solution could be having a triple system. So, in order to have a certain rank you need to have a minimum percentile, a minimum number of finished games, and a minimum score. I am not sure about it, but is an option to consider.
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby lozzini on Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:50 am

i think yu only need percentile or score, because tehy both mean the samer thing

apart from that they all look so similar it won't reli make a differance, but the 2nd on e looks best to me
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby max is gr8 on Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:58 am

I think a percentile system is a great idea.
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby OliverFA on Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:28 am

lozzini wrote:i think yu only need percentile or score, because tehy both mean the samer thing


I find arguments to support both approaches. A pure percentile system would be completely immune to inflation and deflation (in the unlikely event it ever happens). But maybe it could have some odd results resulting in high ranks with very low score. That is why I say that maybe a minimum score per rank would be good. But certainly, I don't know.

lozzini wrote:apart from that they all look so similar it won't reli make a differance, but the 2nd on e looks best to me


The only difference is that the second places a bit more people in the lower ranks, and the third even more than the second.

About a percentile system (either mixed with minium score or pure without minimum score) The only problem that I find is, what would happen as active number of players changes? The way that I can think to solve it is to update the rank only when a player finishes a game. Then, if he does not play for 30 days but still participates in the forums, he would be listed as the rank he had adter his last game (could be considered some sort of retired sergeant, captain, major, wathever). If he plays again, he will still have his last rank, and it will only change when he finishes another game.
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby OliverFA on Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:29 am

max is gr8 wrote:I think a percentile system is a great idea.


I also do. That's is why I took some time to make an example of three of the many possible ways in which that system could be implemented.
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby lozzini on Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:33 pm

OliverFA wrote:
lozzini wrote:i think yu only need percentile or score, because tehy both mean the samer thing


I find arguments to support both approaches. A pure percentile system would be completely immune to inflation and deflation (in the unlikely event it ever happens). But maybe it could have some odd results resulting in high ranks with very low score. That is why I say that maybe a minimum score per rank would be good. But certainly, I don't know.

lozzini wrote:apart from that they all look so similar it won't reli make a differance, but the 2nd on e looks best to me


The only difference is that the second places a bit more people in the lower ranks, and the third even more than the second.

About a percentile system (either mixed with minium score or pure without minimum score) The only problem that I find is, what would happen as active number of players changes? The way that I can think to solve it is to update the rank only when a player finishes a game. Then, if he does not play for 30 days but still participates in the forums, he would be listed as the rank he had adter his last game (could be considered some sort of retired sergeant, captain, major, wathever). If he plays again, he will still have his last rank, and it will only change when he finishes another game.


i think if a player is active (in any way - just signing in is enough) in a month, they should appear on the scoreboard with a score

even if someone doesn't play games, they still deserve a rank, and a position
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby OliverFA on Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:11 pm

I am not saying they don't deserve a rank or a position. I only say it because of the way in which the scoreboard works. It says that "Only players that have taken a turn within the past 30 days are listed." It looks like it could be a potential issue with a percentile system. Logic dictates that the percentile used for the rank would be the one in the scoreboard of active players. And that creates the issue of which rank assign to a player who has not played in the last 30 days. Which rank assign to a player that is not in the scoreboard?

That is why I suggested to update a player rank only after each game he finishes, and not continuously. Then, if a player stops taking turns during 30 days, he will keep his rank even if he is not listed in the scoreboard anymore. That player could be listed as a "Retired (rank)" of "Inactive (rank)" for example, "Retired captain" or "Inactive captain".
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby lozzini on Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:29 pm

ahh yes i get yu know, like showing they are inactive and finished at the rank 'x', yes i think that is the best way around that issue
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:43 pm

I should have my own rank =P~

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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby blacky44 on Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:40 pm

I think its bad because no one would obtain Field Marshall right now and this ranking system is fine.
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby Qwert on Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:44 am

i almost forget on these sugestion, its these still consider active sugestion?
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby blakebowling on Fri Jan 21, 2011 7:46 pm

qwert wrote:i almost forget on these sugestion, its these still consider active sugestion?

Any suggestion in the main forum can be considered active. However the real activity is the community's input, and their opinions.
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby Victor Sullivan on Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:27 pm

Your first list looks good, though I'd throw out "Specialist" and "Staff Sergeant" and adjust the score minimums a tad.
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby Qwert on Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:16 am

"Your first list looks good, though I'd throw out "Specialist" and "Staff Sergeant" and adjust the score minimums a tad."

List no 1?
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby 40kguy on Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:30 am

i dont think they should go that high. no one not evan the conquer has 6000 points. that is the practically the most points that this sight has ever seen.
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby benga on Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:12 pm

200 points difference over 2k pts
is too little difference
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby Victor Sullivan on Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:21 pm

My adjustments:

Field Marshal: 4500
General: 4000
Brigadier: 3500
Colonel: 3000
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Major: 2300
Captain: 2100
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby OliverFA on Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:53 pm

I still think a three requisite system (number of games played, minimum score and percentile) would be a more fair system. Then in the event that there is point inflation, the percentile requisite would prevent the board from getting crowded with too many high ranked players.
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby ben79 on Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:22 pm

Victor Sullivan wrote:My adjustments:

Field Marshal: 4500
General: 4000
Brigadier: 3500
Colonel: 3000
Lieutenant Colonel: 2500
Major: 2300
Captain: 2100
Lieutenant: 1900
Warrant Officer: 1700
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i like that suggestion, would be fun, even if ranks means nothing ( i could win 10-straight ass. doodle ) but i like this, make a poll about it
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions. [Poll Added]

Postby Qwert on Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:27 am

well victory,your adjustment all ready exist,just look on ranks page,and you will be same adjustment, so you propose to stay same?
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Postby JoshyBoy on Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:06 am

In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with the unique ranking system which we currently employ. Why complicate matters?
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Postby blakebowling on Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:49 pm

JoshyBoy wrote:In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with the unique ranking system which we currently employ. Why complicate matters?

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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions.

Postby Victor Sullivan on Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:32 am

OliverFA wrote:I still think a three requisite system (number of games played, minimum score and percentile) would be a more fair system. Then in the event that there is point inflation, the percentile requisite would prevent the board from getting crowded with too many high ranked players.

Not sure about percentile - that'd be really hard to increase, but I agree with keeping game minimum requirements. I just put points for my list for the time being.
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Re: NEW RANKS Sugestions. [Poll Added]

Postby Qwert on Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:25 pm

Well with new revolution, maybe its time for some add new ranks and new(more military) view of Ranks. They could look like shoulder rank insignia.


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Cross-Map Achievement (3) Ratings Achievement (1) Tournament Achievement (5) General Achievement (3) Clan Achievement (6)
Training Achievement (2) Map Contribution (8) Tournament Contribution (22) General Contribution (4)

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