Conquer Club

chemefreak wrote:This is fun! I was thinking that at the end of each year the CDs could pm the leaders of certain clans (perhaps clans that have been "around" for the entire year) and ask them who their award should go to. Then the clans themselves can determine by voting or whatever who in their clan gets the medal. Just a thought.

Issuing medals is not too difficult. I am going to issue one right now to jefjef for this idea

Soon we will be issuing MVP awards for clan wars. I believe that this is starting for any clan war that began after July 1, 2011. We are still nailing down the exact "science" of the award, but to be honest, it is pretty easy to see who the MVP for each clan was once you review the numbers. Every now and then there will be a tough call, but it should be an interesting exercise, none the less.

As far as the theory that this would take medal issuing out of CC's control, I'm not sure that is exactly true. Now, at this point, Masli may say that this is not going to happen or perhaps even admin will step and say we can't issue medals for this purpose. But I think it is a nice way to reward certain members of our clans that may not get all the wins, etc. Also, as indicated previously, I would be happy to head the operation on behalf of the CDs should this get implemented.

I have put a link to this thread in the CD forum and will see if it can gain any traction.

We are still nailing down the exact "science" of the award,

eddie2 wrote:like i said i am 99.99 percen that the mvp award after a clan winning a war can be awarded to players who done work behind the scenes to help with the win (including database runners, players that train the clan, and other things that made the win possible.)

chemefreak wrote:Dear God! The proposed MVP award that I pitched to Masli is simply that a clan that has been around for a required minimum amount of time (a year perhaps?) would be contacted by the CDs in, say, December of each year, and then that clan could choose its MVP based on whatever criteria it wants. Then the CDs could award the medal. Also, as I stated previously, this will be an uphill battle with admin that I am not sure Masli would ever want to fight. I do think it is a good and fun idea, but the simpler we keep it the better. We are already starting the process of awarding MVP awards for clan wars to each clan. That process seems to be pretty simple as it is usually pretty clear who the best player (in terms of win/loss, number of games, array of games, etc.) is from a certain war.

Anyway, the idea is in the system and we will just have to wait and see what happens. As you all know, I am but a secretary in the clan world with no real authority Good lively discussion here, though.

Cheers,

Nick

Bones2484 wrote:

chemefreak wrote:Dear God! The proposed MVP award that I pitched to Masli is simply that a clan that has been around for a required minimum amount of time (a year perhaps?) would be contacted by the CDs in, say, December of each year, and then that clan could choose its MVP based on whatever criteria it wants. Then the CDs could award the medal. Also, as I stated previously, this will be an uphill battle with admin that I am not sure Masli would ever want to fight. I do think it is a good and fun idea, but the simpler we keep it the better. We are already starting the process of awarding MVP awards for clan wars to each clan. That process seems to be pretty simple as it is usually pretty clear who the best player (in terms of win/loss, number of games, array of games, etc.) is from a certain war.

Anyway, the idea is in the system and we will just have to wait and see what happens. As you all know, I am but a secretary in the clan world with no real authority Good lively discussion here, though.

Cheers,

Nick

So you have an "MVP Award" and a "Clan War MVP Award". Guess I'm confused, but from the sounds of what you said you're talking two separate awards?

chemefreak wrote:The Clan War MVP Awards have already been authorized by admin. We should start issuing those in the near future. The Clan MVP Award that jefjef has proposed would actually be a yearly award given out by each clan to a member of their clan. Again, it is up to Masli to determine how far we go with that idea.

eddie2 wrote:

chapcrap wrote: you can infer that it is only based on gameplay.

like i said previously maybe ask a clan director to clarify the info behind the mvp award.

chapcrap wrote:eddie, if Clan A doesn't deserve a medal, then that's fine. If you don't like jefjef's idea, then that's fine, but you still haven't given a reason to merge them.

And it sounds like you think the CDs are going to give out a War MVP for things like training games. I don't think that is the case. I think that will be based on wins and play within the war alone. cheme, can you comment on the scope of your plan?

CD idea is to give a medal per war based on war play.

jefjef's idea is to give medal per year based on clan work, wins are not a factor. I think that in your scenario where the clan sucks, that doesn't mean there isn't a lot of work that goes into the clan. New clans may not win a lot, but that happens with new partners and players who are learning team games. That doesn't mean a lot of important work isn't done.

chemefreak wrote:The Clan War MVP Awards have already been authorized by admin. We should start issuing those in the near future. The Clan Contribution Award that jefjef has proposed would actually be a yearly award given out by each clan to a member of their clan. Again, it is up to Masli to determine how far we go with that idea.

jgordon1111 wrote:Thank you chem for finally clarifying this point so eddie can quit arguing it with everyone who read and understood you from the beginning.

eddie2 wrote:

jgordon1111 wrote:Thank you chem for finally clarifying this point so eddie can quit arguing it with everyone who read and understood you from the beginning.

yes thank you chemefreak.

now what if i had spoke with masli and he is not going to push this sug forward because he was not happy at certain aspects of it.. But was saying it could be brought in as part of the mvp award. would you still be saying i was argueing a dead horse. i did read and understand chemefreak from the beginning i also looked into things before i posted. and i do feel like i have said all along that this is a good idea. But are you really going to let your hate over me stuff up any chance you have of getting some form of award for the players you want behind the scenes.

chapcrap wrote:

eddie2 wrote:

jgordon1111 wrote:Thank you chem for finally clarifying this point so eddie can quit arguing it with everyone who read and understood you from the beginning.

yes thank you chemefreak.

now what if i had spoke with masli and he is not going to push this sug forward because he was not happy at certain aspects of it.. But was saying it could be brought in as part of the mvp award. would you still be saying i was argueing a dead horse. i did read and understand chemefreak from the beginning i also looked into things before i posted. and i do feel like i have said all along that this is a good idea. But are you really going to let your hate over me stuff up any chance you have of getting some form of award for the players you want behind the scenes.

First, I would never say you were argueing a dead horse because that's not how you spell arguing and because the phrase is beating a dead horse.
Second, if you understood cheme from the beginning, you wouldn't have been posting all of the things you did.
Third, if you had talked with Masli, you would have said so a long time ago.

Just admit that you were wrong and we'll all accept that. We don't hate you, you're just being ridiculous.

Metsfanmax wrote:Drop the argument. If you all have further comments related to the suggestion, those would be relevant.

Masli, we would still like your opinion on the issue clearly stated here since this does relate to your department.

Masli, we would still like your opinion on the issue clearly stated here since this does relate to your department.

Masli wrote:As many might know, I always been very active behind the scene of my clan in the past. So I understand why you would want a medal like this.

The problem will be, that all other medals have visable proof for the medal, there is no way to check why and if someone deserves this medal.
This is why I think admin will not give this a go.

Masli wrote:As many might know, I always been very active behind the scene of my clan in the past. So I understand why you would want a medal like this.

Masli wrote:The problem will be, that all other medals have visable proof for the medal, there is no way to check why and if someone deserves this medal.

I think if we used this wrongly our respective clans would revolt against us.