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[GO] Partly Cloudy and Overcast ("Semi-Fog")
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Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:52 amby GreecePwns
Concise description:- A game mode which serves as an inbetween between Foggy and Sunny games
Specifics/Details:- Players will be able to see troop numbers on all opposing territories and neutrals as well, but they will be shown colorless
- Teammates territories will be in color
- I don't know whether or not I'd like adjacent territories to be shown in color, but I guess the logical thing to do (since the current Foggy setting does it) is to display them in color as well
- When conquering a territory, the game log will reveal who it was conquered from
How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:- This will make for some interesting games, especially in assassin mode
- It could make for a good introduction for new players to the fully fogged mode
Re: Semi-Fog
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Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:06 pmby TheForgivenOne
Question, how would things show up in the Log? Like, will it tell you who deployed where?
Re: Semi-Fog
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Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:21 pmby Darwins_Bane
what about if i conquer a territory of tfo? I'll know, so i can generally figure out where he is
Re: Semi-Fog
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Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:27 pmby karelpietertje
Darwins_Bane wrote:what about if i conquer a territory of tfo? I'll know, so i can generally figure out where he is
Good stuff.
In every single move I make, I try to figure out which region I just attacked as well.
Re: Semi-Fog
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Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:06 pmby GreecePwns
For deployment, I would think it would say "Player deployed X troops on ?"
For conquering a territory, if the adjacent ones are also colorless, it could say "conquered ? from ?"
If the adjacent ones are not color less, it could say "conquered [territoriy] from [player]" for the person that actually conquered it and "conquered ? from ?" for everyone else.
Re: Semi-Fog
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Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:12 amby sniffie
I doubt that this suggestion is really going to happen. But... not showing in the log how many troops are deployed on a territ could make a fog game nicer.
sniff
Re: Semi-Fog
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Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:59 amby TheForgivenOne
der sniffter wrote:I doubt that this suggestion is really going to happen. But... not showing in the log how many troops are deployed on a territ could make a fog game nicer.
sniff
Could you imagine if bonuses weren't shown either?
Re: Semi-Fog
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Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:58 amby degaston
As an alternative semi-fog, how about a mode where all the territories that would be a ? in fog, show just the color of who holds it.
Or, a beyond foggy "pea-soup" mode where you can see the color of your neighbors, but not the troop strength.
Just throwing out some ideas.
Re: Semi-Fog
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Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:15 pmby OliverFA
Shouldn't make more sense to see the colour but not the number? Think about real life. In a war, you know a certain province is controlled by a particular faction, but don't know how many troops they have there.
Re: Semi-Fog
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Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:34 pmby RedRover23B
OliverFA wrote:Shouldn't make more sense to see the colour but not the number? Think about real life. In a war, you know a certain province is controlled by a particular faction, but don't know how many troops they have there.
What about a combination of these ideas. Adjacent territories is fully visible, territories touching those are colored and any other territories are colorless and ?
but i do like the idea that i quoted.
Re: Semi-Fog
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Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:48 amby Mr_Adams
RedRover23B wrote:OliverFA wrote:Shouldn't make more sense to see the colour but not the number? Think about real life. In a war, you know a certain province is controlled by a particular faction, but don't know how many troops they have there.
What about a combination of these ideas. Adjacent territories is fully visible, territories touching those are colored and any other territories are colorless and ?
but i do like the idea that i quoted.
Oliver's suggestion is what I would like to see. Rover's 2 territories out thing would be cool as well. Question, though. What about bombardment territories? would you be able to see the territory attacked by a territory you could bombard? Just curious.
Re: Semi-Fog
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Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:10 amby RedRover23B
Mr_Adams wrote:Oliver's suggestion is what I would like to see. Rover's 2 territories out thing would be cool as well. Question, though. What about bombardment territories? would you be able to see the territory attacked by a territory you could bombard? Just curious.
I would think bombardments would be colored and ?- cause you never really know what youre bombarding youre just shooting shells and hoping for the best. And as for the game log, i dont think it should show up.
Re: Semi-Fog
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Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:30 amby Mr_Adams
RedRover23B wrote:Mr_Adams wrote:Oliver's suggestion is what I would like to see. Rover's 2 territories out thing would be cool as well. Question, though. What about bombardment territories? would you be able to see the territory attacked by a territory you could bombard? Just curious.
I would think bombardments would be colored and ?- cause you never really know what youre bombarding youre just shooting shells and hoping for the best. And as for the game log, i dont think it should show up.
We're talking about a game, not real life.
Re: Semi-Fog
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Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:21 pmby RedRover23B
Mr_Adams wrote:RedRover23B wrote:Mr_Adams wrote:Oliver's suggestion is what I would like to see. Rover's 2 territories out thing would be cool as well. Question, though. What about bombardment territories? would you be able to see the territory attacked by a territory you could bombard? Just curious.
I would think bombardments would be colored and ?- cause you never really know what youre bombarding youre just shooting shells and hoping for the best. And as for the game log, i dont think it should show up.
We're talking about a game, not real life.
Yeah, but its cool to use concepts for real life in a game, make things a little realistic. Just ideas being thrown around of how we could do this or make it better.
Re: Semi-Fog
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Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:00 pmby OliverFA
RedRover23B wrote:Mr_Adams wrote:RedRover23B wrote:Mr_Adams wrote:Oliver's suggestion is what I would like to see. Rover's 2 territories out thing would be cool as well. Question, though. What about bombardment territories? would you be able to see the territory attacked by a territory you could bombard? Just curious.
I would think bombardments would be colored and ?- cause you never really know what youre bombarding youre just shooting shells and hoping for the best. And as for the game log, i dont think it should show up.
We're talking about a game, not real life.
Yeah, but its cool to use concepts for real life in a game, make things a little realistic. Just ideas being thrown around of how we could do this or make it better.
In my opinion, and that's just my opinion, wargames are much better and a lot more enjoyable when they simulate the real life. After all, if you are not simulating real life, why give your game real life names?
Re: Semi-Fog
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Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:04 pmby OliverFA
Mr_Adams wrote:RedRover23B wrote:OliverFA wrote:Shouldn't make more sense to see the colour but not the number? Think about real life. In a war, you know a certain province is controlled by a particular faction, but don't know how many troops they have there.
What about a combination of these ideas. Adjacent territories is fully visible, territories touching those are colored and any other territories are colorless and ?
but i do like the idea that i quoted.
Oliver's suggestion is what I would like to see. Rover's 2 territories out thing would be cool as well. Question, though. What about bombardment territories? would you be able to see the territory attacked by a territory you could bombard? Just curious.
I think that the two territories layer is an even better idea
So it would be:
- Territories adjacent to owned ones are fully visible.
- Territories at distance 2 from owned territories show the "?" with the owner colour.
- Territories at distance 3 or higher show the "?" in white.
I think that bombardment adjacencies should give you full visibility. Otherwise very few people would bother at bombarding a territory they don't know how many armies are there.
Re: Semi-Fog
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Tue Jul 05, 2011 2:47 amby sniffie
TheForgivenOne wrote:der sniffter wrote:I doubt that this suggestion is really going to happen. But... not showing in the log how many troops are deployed on a territ could make a fog game nicer.
sniff
Could you imagine if bonuses weren't shown either?
Lol, that would not be Semi-Fog, that would be total FOG. BOB would still tell the bonuses won't he?
sniff
Re: Semi-Fog
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Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:55 pmby GreecePwns
OliverFA wrote:Mr_Adams wrote:RedRover23B wrote:OliverFA wrote:Shouldn't make more sense to see the colour but not the number? Think about real life. In a war, you know a certain province is controlled by a particular faction, but don't know how many troops they have there.
What about a combination of these ideas. Adjacent territories is fully visible, territories touching those are colored and any other territories are colorless and ?
but i do like the idea that i quoted.
Oliver's suggestion is what I would like to see. Rover's 2 territories out thing would be cool as well. Question, though. What about bombardment territories? would you be able to see the territory attacked by a territory you could bombard? Just curious.
I think that the two territories layer is an even better idea
So it would be:
- Territories adjacent to owned ones are fully visible.
- Territories at distance 2 from owned territories show the "?" with the owner colour.
- Territories at distance 3 or higher show the "?" in white.
I think that bombardment adjacencies should give you full visibility. Otherwise very few people would bother at bombarding a territory they don't know how many armies are there.
I think this idea should be the regular fog, and semi-fog be this to a smaller effect.
Re: Semi-Fog
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Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:04 pmby OliverFA
There is no way current fog will be changed. A Semi-fog setting could be added. But changing the current one... that will simply not happen.
Re: Semi-Fog
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Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:22 pmby Mr_Adams
OliverFA wrote:There is no way current fog will be changed. A Semi-fog setting could be added. But changing the current one... that will simply not happen.
Ya, it's a setting that to many people are to fond of in it's current setting. Including yours truly
Re: Semi-Fog
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Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:09 pmby GreecePwns
Maybe we can have a Partly Cloudy and an Overcast
Re: Semi-Fog
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Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:48 pmby Mr_Adams
GreecePwns wrote:Maybe we can have a Partly Cloudy and an Overcast
Names of settings decided upon, please move to submitted now