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Re: Special Clan contribution award.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:25 am
by jefjef
qwert wrote:
Also qwert, your suggestion completely changes Jef's idea. Like, its 180 degrees different.


well these is how i see, something what can be easy to implement,and easy for CD to issue medals.
Now we need to separate things a little
Special Clan contribution award- now like in other forums,i will take map foundry for example, because i get one Contribution medal for notheworthy contribution in map foundry, and these is what these medal need to be, for notheworthy contribution in clan forum, like in case of map foundry, only CD decide to give these medal to some player.
Special Clan Achivement Award- now these could be something what i proposed, and related to individual person(medal what we get its for team Achivement), who can be decide by number of team wins,combined in all clan games,what one person play, how much these will be i give example-30 wins bronse Eagle-60 wins silver Eagle-100 wins Gold Eagle Award(these could be change).
I dont change any sugestion, because these is totaly diferent ,from what jef proposed


Than these belong in it's own suggestion thread.

Re: Special Clan contribution award.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:29 am
by Metsfanmax
jefjef wrote:
qwert wrote:
Also qwert, your suggestion completely changes Jef's idea. Like, its 180 degrees different.


well these is how i see, something what can be easy to implement,and easy for CD to issue medals.
Now we need to separate things a little
Special Clan contribution award- now like in other forums,i will take map foundry for example, because i get one Contribution medal for notheworthy contribution in map foundry, and these is what these medal need to be, for notheworthy contribution in clan forum, like in case of map foundry, only CD decide to give these medal to some player.
Special Clan Achivement Award- now these could be something what i proposed, and related to individual person(medal what we get its for team Achivement), who can be decide by number of team wins,combined in all clan games,what one person play, how much these will be i give example-30 wins bronse Eagle-60 wins silver Eagle-100 wins Gold Eagle Award(these could be change).
I dont change any sugestion, because these is totaly diferent ,from what jef proposed


Than these belong in it's own suggestion thread.


Indeed. Let's keep this topic to member selected individual-clan achievements, since that's what the OP requested.

Re: Special Clan member achievement award.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:32 am
by jefjef
Ok. Sugg has been modified. See what you all think. :)

Concise description:

Allow each competitive clans leader/s to have 1 special Clan contribution medal awarded by CC to 1 clan member per year for special recognition for their contributions to their respective clan.


Specifics/Details:

It would be great for leaders to be able to recognize a member for improvements/overall performance/managing wars/training/attitude/volunteering - for whatever reason each clans leaders would decide.


How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:

Medals and awards make this site more competitive and enjoyable. Clans and clan members contribute greatly to CC in ideas, competition and enjoyment. Allowing clans leader/s to give special recognition to members will only make clans more enjoyable. 8-)
The award I suggest using is the current clan achievement awarded for war victories. Everything is already in place. :)
OR as has been suggested we could come up with a really cool unique award. Like a silver or gold Eagle.


CRITERIA:
For the clan to have been active for a year +.
For the clan to have had a minimum of 4 medal qualifying wars* in that year.
For the medal recipient to have been a member of that clan for a year +.
For that recipient to have participated in a minimum of 4 medal qualifying wars*.
*Participation in a Medal qualifying clan tournament counts towards a medal war.

Clan then earns 1 medal to issue to a [b]member
whom the leader/s feel deserves recognition for their contributions. Clan Directors then issue upon proper notification from the requesting clan leader/s. *Leaders will not be allowed to award themselves the medal.

Re: Special Clan member achievement award.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:45 am
by TheSaxlad
TNC supports this.

Re: Special Clan member achievement award.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:49 am
by Metsfanmax
Maybe this is a silly question, but how exactly do we define the "leader(s)" of a clan?

Re: Special Clan member achievement award.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:29 am
by jefjef
Metsfanmax wrote:Maybe this is a silly question, but how exactly do we define the "leader(s)" of a clan?


Those that are listed as the CC recognized leaders...

Clans have atleast 1 leader. Some have 2. Some have 3. Some have 4.

Army of GOD torres44cm riskitall25 are the leaders of SoH
jefjef and megaswoman are the leaders of KOA
tokle TheSaxLad blackknight_ TheCrown are the leaders of TNC
bruceswar and foxglove are the leaders of KORT
aaronvollrath is the leader of Fantastic Four Skins
etc.. etc...

Re: Special Clan member achievement award.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:06 pm
by aaronvollrath
a little bit late, but this sounds like a good idea. some individuals in our clan are very special as evidenced by their forced enrollment in special education classes.

Re: Special Clan member achievement award.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:13 pm
by JBlombier
I support this idea. It seems nice to give a special member some more recognition.

Re: Special Clan member achievement award.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:58 pm
by Qwert
guys im only answer on question, im all ready have 4 sugestions who sleep in submited sugestions,and i dont want to waste time on new sugestion.
Jefjef your sugestion are unique,and give interesting concept to award medals, and you all ready have community support, now only left hard part-to get mod and lack support for implementation.
good luck and you have mine support also. :)

Re: Special Clan contribution award.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:02 pm
by chapcrap
I think that all questions have been answered and the criteria seem legitimate to me.

Re: Special Clan member achievement award.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:16 pm
by jgordon1111
Chapcrap is right,jefjef has laid out the proposed criteria for the award.CC community is showing support. Moderators the ball is in your court,are you going to help us out on this one. A simple Aye or Nay,on where you stand would be helpful. Thank you.

Re: Special Clan member achievement award.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:54 pm
by QoH
And while this is just a response to qwert's mumbo-jumbo, Chemefreak already said that the CDs are working on an MVP medal for each clan war. So there isn't really a need for the same type of medal in a new suggestion. I think that jef's idea of recognizing a player for their contribution, not win achievement, is a huge step for the clan world.

Best suggestion I've seen in a while

Re: Special Clan member achievement award.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:55 am
by eddie2
spot on come on mets get this submitted now

Re: Special Clan member achievement award.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:34 am
by Sniper08
qwert wrote:guys im only answer on question, im all ready have 4 sugestions who sleep in submited sugestions,and i dont want to waste time on new sugestion.


10 pages in 3 days for a sugg its probably a record so it wouldnt be surprising if this got fast tracked a bit.

it a great suggestion and i see no problems with it not being atleast being submitted

Re: Special Clan member achievement award.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:05 am
by Metsfanmax
Stickied for now. I want people to have some more time to comment on the proposed criteria before submission. I won't make you all wait too long, I promise.

Re: Special Clan member achievement award.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:13 pm
by jefjef
Metsfanmax wrote:Stickied for now. I want people to have some more time to comment on the proposed criteria before submission. I won't make you all wait too long, I promise.


Thank you Mets! 8-)

Re: Special Clan member achievement award.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:25 pm
by chapcrap
Sniper08 wrote:
qwert wrote:guys im only answer on question, im all ready have 4 sugestions who sleep in submited sugestions,and i dont want to waste time on new sugestion.


10 pages in 3 days for a sugg its probably a record so it wouldnt be surprising if this got fast tracked a bit.

it a great suggestion and i see no problems with it not being atleast being submitted

Fast tracked!!

Re: Special Clan member achievement award.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:12 am
by Anthrax821
great idea.

make it a new medal at least

Re: Special Clan member achievement award.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:55 pm
by eddie2
well i was drawn into the jefjef peanutsdad(head of cla) arguement v metsfan to much. but was chemefrank not sayiing they were organising a medel for mvp of winning clan. would this not be better 1 win = 1 random medal instead of 4 wins = 1 medal

Re: Special Clan member achievement award.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:21 pm
by chapcrap
eddie2 wrote:well i was drawn into the jefjef peanutsdad(head of cla) arguement v metsfan to much. but was chemefrank not sayiing they were organising a medel for mvp of winning clan. would this not be better 1 win = 1 random medal instead of 4 wins = 1 medal

The medal/award that jefjef is proposing isn't associated directly to wins. It's for contribution to the betterment of the clan. Wins are a small part, but my feeling is that more weight will be given to other things.

Re: Special Clan member achievement award.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:50 am
by greenoaks
chapcrap wrote:
eddie2 wrote:well i was drawn into the jefjef peanutsdad(head of cla) arguement v metsfan to much. but was chemefrank not sayiing they were organising a medel for mvp of winning clan. would this not be better 1 win = 1 random medal instead of 4 wins = 1 medal

The medal/award that jefjef is proposing isn't associated directly to wins. It's for contribution to the betterment of the clan. Wins are a small part, but my feeling is that more weight will be given to other things.

ALL weight should be given to other things

Re: Special Clan member achievement award.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:19 am
by jefjef
Anthrax821 wrote:great idea.

make it a new medal at least


It would be cool to have a special medal but unfortunately getting new medals are a bit difficult and a slow process. This could be implemented immediately using the current achievement medal. The details would show the reason for the award so people could see it wasn't just for a war win.

Re: Special Clan member achievement award.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:46 am
by eddie2
chapcrap wrote:
eddie2 wrote:well i was drawn into the jefjef peanutsdad(head of cla) arguement v metsfan to much. but was chemefrank not sayiing they were organising a medel for mvp of winning clan. would this not be better 1 win = 1 random medal instead of 4 wins = 1 medal

The medal/award that jefjef is proposing isn't associated directly to wins. It's for contribution to the betterment of the clan. Wins are a small part, but my feeling is that more weight will be given to other things.


no you are missing it chemefreak has said they are organising a mvp (most valuble player) award for clans winning a war. so for a mvp award the clan mods would have to contact the war organiser of the winning clan to see who he feels was there mvp. so work it out in your head.

in 1 year if you win 4 wars you get 4 mvp medals to hand out to clan.(which is part of jefs terms that a clan must win a war) not 1 at the end of each year. maybe the clan mods can use the medal style idea, but if this sug goes through it will mean that each clan could possibly get less medals to award than what clan mods are already discussing.

Re: Special Clan member achievement award.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:33 am
by chapcrap
eddie2 wrote:
chapcrap wrote:
eddie2 wrote:well i was drawn into the jefjef peanutsdad(head of cla) arguement v metsfan to much. but was chemefrank not sayiing they were organising a medel for mvp of winning clan. would this not be better 1 win = 1 random medal instead of 4 wins = 1 medal

The medal/award that jefjef is proposing isn't associated directly to wins. It's for contribution to the betterment of the clan. Wins are a small part, but my feeling is that more weight will be given to other things.


no you are missing it chemefreak has said they are organising a mvp (most valuble player) award for clans winning a war. so for a mvp award the clan mods would have to contact the war organiser of the winning clan to see who he feels was there mvp. so work it out in your head.

in 1 year if you win 4 wars you get 4 mvp medals to hand out to clan.(which is part of jefs terms that a clan must win a war) not 1 at the end of each year. maybe the clan mods can use the medal style idea, but if this sug goes through it will mean that each clan could possibly get less medals to award than what clan mods are already discussing.

I already wrapped my head around it. Can you wrap your head around the fact that both of their ideas can happen? They are awarded for 2 different things.

Re: Special Clan member achievement award.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:56 pm
by spiesr
Since this suggestion currently learns towards the 1 medal per clan per year idea, there are some questions about how that would work exactly. Are clans supposed to submit for this award:
A. Once per calendar year at any point during that year.
B. Exactly 1 year (~365 days) after that clan's medal was awarded previously.
C. Are all clans submit their decision on a specific date?

Should clans be allowed to award the medal to the same person year after year?

Should there be any limitations on what criteria a clan can use to award this medal? (IE Is simply being the best at wars in the clan a valid reason?) Related, are the Clan Directors allowed to reject an award if they feel the reason is not good enough/does not meet whatever criteria may be decided upon? If clan directors are allowed to veto an application what level of strictness should they apply? This can range from only vetoing obvious joke applications to doing serious investigations to determine if that individual's contribution is truly "good enough" for the medal. Or do you want there to be no Director oversight at all, apart from checking eligibility?