Conquer Club

A tournament to deterimine conqueror.

Specifics/Details:
It will happen every _____ months. Maybe every 3

The current conqueror will pick ALL of the settings, except length, 24, and round limit, 30

number of players
map
everything
This gives that advantage to the conqueor. The defending champ should have homefield advantage. I would even say if the conqueror wants to play teams, he can select his teamate.


Instead of regular points, the players in the tournament are given a seed based on standing on the score board.
First person out gets the lowesest seeds score
Second person gets the 2nd lowest seeds score

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:
1. It’s another tournament. Conquer Cup is awesome! I have never played, simply due to the fact I away from a computer for weeks at a time. But when I am, I watch The conquer cup games. Wouldn’t the community rally behind another tournament?

2. Some people have issues with how the scoreboard works. This would make the top of the scoreboard a lot more interesting to those people. And maybe more attainable

3. Its like the conqueror has to defend his crown. This would benefit the site because I think putting the conqueor medal on the line every 3 months, would make more people shoot for the top. This would cause more competition, more excitement

4. I don't want to speak for these people, but I feel like some active, trusted individuals would be okay with putting the hours in to make this work. So this suggestion is easily put into place if those people want to volunteer thier time.


Possible detrimental effects to each positive effect

1. It could take away from the Conquer Cup. Maybe people would watch this instead. The Conquer Cup will still sell out every time.

2. But what would be the cost. Would this suggestion, if implicated, detract from the people who would have to play in the tournament? I can’t speak for ranks 2-8.

3. Same as above. The top 2-8 might not be okay with this. Or people expecting to be these soon. Or those people might like this idea.

Nice Idea.

With some work, listening to all parts, this could be really something exciting.

i dont see the point of this

the Conquerer is the person with the most points at any given time. if the lowest seed were to win this they would be conquerer for a max of 1 hour, until the scoreboard updates.

greenoaks wrote:i dont see the point of this

the Conquerer is the person with the most points at any given time. if the lowest seed were to win this they would be conquerer for a max of 1 hour, until the scoreboard updates.

The person who won would get the score of the conquerer.

example, before the "tournament" game

A has 5100
B Has 5008
C 4900

B goes out first and has a new score of 4900
A goes out next and there new score is 5008
C wins and there new score is 5100

Would changing scores like this require a lot of coding? Or could someone just go in and change them?

nietzsche wrote:Nice Idea.

With some work, listening to all parts, this could be really something exciting.

Thank you!

this wont happen ... it kills the point of conquerer ... but a high level tourney would be nice. Even tho GLG does alot of 1v1s it is still hard to stay where hes at. PPL say its bs what he does ... but if it was ez to do then everyone would do it

capanache wrote:

greenoaks wrote:i dont see the point of this

the Conquerer is the person with the most points at any given time. if the lowest seed were to win this they would be conquerer for a max of 1 hour, until the scoreboard updates.

The person who won would get the score of the conquerer.

example, before the "tournament" game

A has 5100
B Has 5008
C 4900

B goes out first and has a new score of 4900
A goes out next and there new score is 5008
C wins and there new score is 5100

Would changing scores like this require a lot of coding? Or could someone just go in and change them?

so there'd be no point playing games, just turn up once every 3 months to win or defend the title and that's it, you're the Conquerer for 3 months straight.

all because you got lucky in 1 tournament, there is no need to show skill/luck and determination like we have now over a long period of time.

greenoaks wrote:

capanache wrote:

greenoaks wrote:i dont see the point of this

the Conquerer is the person with the most points at any given time. if the lowest seed were to win this they would be conquerer for a max of 1 hour, until the scoreboard updates.

The person who won would get the score of the conquerer.

example, before the "tournament" game

A has 5100
B Has 5008
C 4900

B goes out first and has a new score of 4900
A goes out next and there new score is 5008
C wins and there new score is 5100

Would changing scores like this require a lot of coding? Or could someone just go in and change them?

so there'd be no point playing games, just turn up once every 3 months to win or defend the title and that's it, you're the Conquerer for 3 months straight.

all because you got lucky in 1 tournament, there is no need to show skill/luck and determination like we have now over a long period of time.

I think a whole lot of skill and determination would go into just getting into the top 5 to be eligible.

As for just showing up every 3 months, can't you just sit on your score as it is? This suggestion is aimed at making the top more exciting for the entire conquer club community.

SaviorShot wrote:this wont happen ... it kills the point of conquerer ...

Could you please elaborate on this viewpoint.

capanache wrote:

greenoaks wrote:

capanache wrote:

greenoaks wrote:i dont see the point of this

the Conquerer is the person with the most points at any given time. if the lowest seed were to win this they would be conquerer for a max of 1 hour, until the scoreboard updates.

The person who won would get the score of the conquerer.

example, before the "tournament" game

A has 5100
B Has 5008
C 4900

B goes out first and has a new score of 4900
A goes out next and there new score is 5008
C wins and there new score is 5100

Would changing scores like this require a lot of coding? Or could someone just go in and change them?

so there'd be no point playing games, just turn up once every 3 months to win or defend the title and that's it, you're the Conquerer for 3 months straight.

all because you got lucky in 1 tournament, there is no need to show skill/luck and determination like we have now over a long period of time.

I think a whole lot of skill and determination would go into just getting into the top 5 to be eligible.

As for just showing up every 3 months, can't you just sit on your score as it is? This suggestion is aimed at making the top more exciting for the entire conquer club community.

Not really, once you get into the top 5, if you don't play many games, it would be quite easy to simply stay there. Very few users ever make it to the top 5, let alone the top 100. Also, 1 tournament doesn't determine the best player on the site, just the best player on the site at the determined settings/maps. And I know many players simply can't compete in certain game types, such as Freestyle, due to poor connection or a busy schedule. Also, a lot of the top players on the scoreboard, play team games. They more then likely wouldn't like a Standard type tournament.

On a second note. With the whole Current Conqueror picking the settings, this would never work. If, say, someone like thebest712/king_herpes/GLG were to be the past winner, then he is basically going to stay on top for every tournament, because they generally had 1 map/setting that they were good at. For example, City Mogul for the map. Out of the current top 5 players - GLG, mc05025, Kiron, mhennigan and BRADDY, only GLG plays that map on a regular basis.

mc0 got to his position through team games and 8 player escalating. Kiron got to his spot through 8 man flat rate on Third Crusade. mhennigan got to his through 8 man escalating on World 2.1 and BRADDY got there through team games, mainly Dubs on Das Schloss. Of course, GLG got there through playing low ranks, but he is VERY good at City Mogul. So, as you can see, they are all got to the top through select settings. If GLG was to pick the settings, I would place my money on him any day of the week to beat the other 4 players listed. Heck, i'd probably do it for the top 20. I'd also say that players that got to the top through team games, wouldn't do as well in this tournament if it was standard, because, I doubt this would be a team game type tournament.

TheForgivenOne wrote:

On a second note. With the whole Current Conqueror picking the settings, this would never work. If, say, someone like thebest712/king_herpes/GLG were to be the past winner, then he is basically going to stay on top for every tournament, because they generally had 1 map/setting that they were good at. For example, City Mogul for the map. Out of the current top 5 players - GLG, mc05025, Kiron, mhennigan and BRADDY, only GLG plays that map on a regular basis.

mc0 got to his position through team games and 8 player escalating. Kiron got to his spot through 8 man flat rate on Third Crusade. mhennigan got to his through 8 man escalating on World 2.1 and BRADDY got there through team games, mainly Dubs on Das Schloss. Of course, GLG got there through playing low ranks, but he is VERY good at City Mogul. So, as you can see, they are all got to the top through select settings. If GLG was to pick the settings, I would place my money on him any day of the week to beat the other 4 players listed. Heck, i'd probably do it for the top 20. I'd also say that players that got to the top through team games, wouldn't do as well in this tournament if it was standard, because, I doubt this would be a team game type tournament.

I like this point actually. The conquerer would have the advantage by picking all his settings. Imagine defending your title multiple times on the same map. Sounds exciting to me. And players are free to ascend the scoreboard as well.

TheForgivenOne wrote:

capanache wrote:

greenoaks wrote:

capanache wrote:

greenoaks wrote:i dont see the point of this

the Conquerer is the person with the most points at any given time. if the lowest seed were to win this they would be conquerer for a max of 1 hour, until the scoreboard updates.

The person who won would get the score of the conquerer.

example, before the "tournament" game

A has 5100
B Has 5008
C 4900

B goes out first and has a new score of 4900
A goes out next and there new score is 5008
C wins and there new score is 5100

Would changing scores like this require a lot of coding? Or could someone just go in and change them?

so there'd be no point playing games, just turn up once every 3 months to win or defend the title and that's it, you're the Conquerer for 3 months straight.

all because you got lucky in 1 tournament, there is no need to show skill/luck and determination like we have now over a long period of time.

I think a whole lot of skill and determination would go into just getting into the top 5 to be eligible.

As for just showing up every 3 months, can't you just sit on your score as it is? This suggestion is aimed at making the top more exciting for the entire conquer club community.

Not really, once you get into the top 5, if you don't play many games, it would be quite easy to simply stay there. Very few users ever make it to the top 5, let alone the top 100. Also, 1 tournament doesn't determine the best player on the site, just the best player on the site at the determined settings/maps. And I know many players simply can't compete in certain game types, such as Freestyle, due to poor connection or a busy schedule. Also, a lot of the top players on the scoreboard, play team games. They more then likely wouldn't like a Standard type tournament.

On a second note. With the whole Current Conqueror picking the settings, this would never work. If, say, someone like thebest712/king_herpes/GLG were to be the past winner, then he is basically going to stay on top for every tournament, because they generally had 1 map/setting that they were good at. For example, City Mogul for the map. Out of the current top 5 players - GLG, mc05025, Kiron, mhennigan and BRADDY, only GLG plays that map on a regular basis.

mc0 got to his position through team games and 8 player escalating. Kiron got to his spot through 8 man flat rate on Third Crusade. mhennigan got to his through 8 man escalating on World 2.1 and BRADDY got there through team games, mainly Dubs on Das Schloss. Of course, GLG got there through playing low ranks, but he is VERY good at City Mogul. So, as you can see, they are all got to the top through select settings. If GLG was to pick the settings, I would place my money on him any day of the week to beat the other 4 players listed. Heck, i'd probably do it for the top 20. I'd also say that players that got to the top through team games, wouldn't do as well in this tournament if it was standard, because, I doubt this would be a team game type tournament.

GLG is not good at city mogul, he may be better than the top 5 but if you include any decent competition pool of players there are many that would be far better than him.

Maybe call it a tournament master? for like a medal? or a cool new rank emblem?

capanache wrote:

TheForgivenOne wrote:

On a second note. With the whole Current Conqueror picking the settings, this would never work. If, say, someone like thebest712/king_herpes/GLG were to be the past winner, then he is basically going to stay on top for every tournament, because they generally had 1 map/setting that they were good at. For example, City Mogul for the map. Out of the current top 5 players - GLG, mc05025, Kiron, mhennigan and BRADDY, only GLG plays that map on a regular basis.

mc0 got to his position through team games and 8 player escalating. Kiron got to his spot through 8 man flat rate on Third Crusade. mhennigan got to his through 8 man escalating on World 2.1 and BRADDY got there through team games, mainly Dubs on Das Schloss. Of course, GLG got there through playing low ranks, but he is VERY good at City Mogul. So, as you can see, they are all got to the top through select settings. If GLG was to pick the settings, I would place my money on him any day of the week to beat the other 4 players listed. Heck, i'd probably do it for the top 20. I'd also say that players that got to the top through team games, wouldn't do as well in this tournament if it was standard, because, I doubt this would be a team game type tournament.

I like this point actually. The conquerer would have the advantage by picking all his settings. Imagine defending your title multiple times on the same map. Sounds exciting to me. And players are free to ascend the scoreboard as well.

You have to think it through. If a City Mogul master was to make it to the top, the only other player who would probably knock that player off the top, would be another CM master. None of the other atop the standings would have a chance, because CM is usually played with Freestyle, which all depends on Speed and speed alone. For someone that know's CM inside and out, that is a VERY VERY unfair advantage, and to be honest, I doubt the other 4 guys on top would even try at the title if they had to play CM.

TheForgivenOne wrote:

capanache wrote:

TheForgivenOne wrote:

On a second note. With the whole Current Conqueror picking the settings, this would never work. If, say, someone like thebest712/king_herpes/GLG were to be the past winner, then he is basically going to stay on top for every tournament, because they generally had 1 map/setting that they were good at. For example, City Mogul for the map. Out of the current top 5 players - GLG, mc05025, Kiron, mhennigan and BRADDY, only GLG plays that map on a regular basis.

mc0 got to his position through team games and 8 player escalating. Kiron got to his spot through 8 man flat rate on Third Crusade. mhennigan got to his through 8 man escalating on World 2.1 and BRADDY got there through team games, mainly Dubs on Das Schloss. Of course, GLG got there through playing low ranks, but he is VERY good at City Mogul. So, as you can see, they are all got to the top through select settings. If GLG was to pick the settings, I would place my money on him any day of the week to beat the other 4 players listed. Heck, i'd probably do it for the top 20. I'd also say that players that got to the top through team games, wouldn't do as well in this tournament if it was standard, because, I doubt this would be a team game type tournament.

I like this point actually. The conquerer would have the advantage by picking all his settings. Imagine defending your title multiple times on the same map. Sounds exciting to me. And players are free to ascend the scoreboard as well.

You have to think it through. If a City Mogul master was to make it to the top, the only other player who would probably knock that player off the top, would be another CM master. None of the other atop the standings would have a chance, because CM is usually played with Freestyle, which all depends on Speed and speed alone. For someone that know's CM inside and out, that is a VERY VERY unfair advantage, and to be honest, I doubt the other 4 guys on top would even try at the title if they had to play CM.

it would be fun to have a free tourney that every active premium member could play once every 3 months to be named like king of hill or something

kylegraves1 wrote:it would be fun to have a free tourney that every active premium member could play once every 3 months to be named like king of hill or something

I wouldn't mind that, but 3 months is too short of a time frame for a tournament that large.

chapcrap wrote:

kylegraves1 wrote:it would be fun to have a free tourney that every active premium member could play once every 3 months to be named like king of hill or something

I wouldn't mind that, but 3 months is too short of a time frame for a tournament that large.

Yeah. Granted there have been other delays and it's not a single-game single elimination tourney, check out how long HA's 200th Tourney has lasted. We're 1/3 of the way through and it's been over a year. Someone can provide the link if they want ...