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Suggestion: No points Tourney Games

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:44 pm
by poo-maker
Concise description:To enable an option for tourney organizer to create games with no points in them. These games would only record the win/loss and no points would be gained/lost in them.

I do realise that the majority of some peoples games are tourney games. That is why i think this idea should be an optional setting for anyone organising a tourney.

This will improve the following aspects of the site:I personally don't participate in tourneys because of the huge amount of points i'd be bound to lose in them. I think that alot of high rankers think the same. If this idea was passed, I think we'd see alot more high rankers in tourneys and therefore more competition in them.

Re: Suggestion: No points Tourney Games

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:22 pm
by Night Strike
There's plenty of competition in tournaments as things are, and the high rankers who aren't obsessive over their points do compete in them. And many do well in them such as BaldAdonis and killmanic.

As for the no points, I'm very hesitant to back this idea because if the majority of tournaments opted to do this, many players would have their points totals suffer.

Re: Suggestion: No points Tourney Games

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:57 pm
by Tk 421
I am Against this idea, Mainly because it would give more people more to complain about !

Re: Suggestion: No points Tourney Games

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:12 pm
by Optimus Prime
Been rejected multiple times.

Re: Suggestion: No points Tourney Games

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:22 pm
by dcc1220
Interesting idea. Why has it been rejected in the past?

Re: Suggestion: No points Tourney Games

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:24 pm
by *manimal
some people play only tourneys for the most part so there score wouldn't be much.

Re: Suggestion: No points Tourney Games

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:52 pm
by Optimus Prime
dcc1220 wrote:Interesting idea. Why has it been rejected in the past?

I do believe it is because Lack does not wish to have games with no points on CC. I'm pretty sure he has said that before.

As for my personal opinion. If you are scared of losing points, you don't belong in a tournament. There are plenty of examples of good players who play a high percentage of tournament games and keep a pretty decent score. ;)

Re: Suggestion: No points Tourney Games

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:22 am
by gimil
come on poo, a player of your calliber isnt scared to loose point, are you? ;)

I personally never want to see no points games of any form. It only serves to feed inflation and help the top brass keep the points they have without having to risk them if they want to play more games.

Re: Suggestion: No points Tourney Games

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:36 am
by poo-maker
Night Strike wrote:As for the no points, I'm very hesitant to back this idea because if the majority of tournaments opted to do this, many players would have their points totals suffer.

Tbh, the reason i decided to suggest this was because I was thinking about how awesome it would be to have a major tournament each year where most of the community would compete in. I would have thought that the privileges to make no points tourneys would be given at yourself and OP's discretion. i.e. only on rare occasions where you thought it would benefit the tourney.

Optimus Prime wrote:As for my personal opinion. If you are scared of losing points, you don't belong in a tournament. There are plenty of examples of good players who play a high percentage of tournament games and keep a pretty decent score. ;)

To me, tournaments are about prestige and having fun playing people in a more structured gaming environment. Do people join tournaments to inflate there score? I would say, no. My suggestion was purely to integrate the higher ranks into tournaments here at cc. If you don't want that, so be it.

Re: Suggestion: No points Tourney Games

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:07 am
by Nickbaldwin
I support this I recently lost a shite load in a tourney :( The only reason I'm above 500 points is all the 1v1s and terms I've been playing on the side

Re: Suggestion: No points Tourney Games

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:19 am
by Gilligan
Nickbaldwin wrote:I support this I recently lost a shite load in a tourney :( The only reason I'm above 500 points is all the 1v1s and terms I've been playing on the side


Mine?

I'm not for or against. If this did happen, I'd stay right where I am because 99% of my games are tournament. I could theoretically pass the 4000 mark and just play tournaments forever and keep a record for longest reign held or something.

Re: Suggestion: No points Tourney Games

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:17 am
by Scott-Land
Not sure how well it would work- it would allow some to play for the joy of it. But I think it would also be another way to abuse the system- someone could play just tournies to gain experience instead of having to actually put points on the line in [real] games.

Re: Suggestion: No points Tourney Games

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:49 am
by Thezzaruz
poo-maker wrote:Concise description:To enable an option for tourney organizer to create games with no points in them. These games would only record the win/loss and no points would be gained/lost in them.


I don't really like this idea but I would like a system where points in the individual games aren't awarded in the individual games but rather pooled and awarded at the end of the tourney according to finishing positions. (and yea (IIRC) this has been suggested and rejected before but still :D

Re: Suggestion: No points Tourney Games

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:26 pm
by Nickbaldwin
Gilligan wrote:
Nickbaldwin wrote:I support this I recently lost a shite load in a tourney :( The only reason I'm above 500 points is all the 1v1s and terms I've been playing on the side


Mine?


Yes it would be yours :lol:

Re: Suggestion: No points Tourney Games

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:25 pm
by Optimus Prime
poo-maker wrote:
Night Strike wrote:As for the no points, I'm very hesitant to back this idea because if the majority of tournaments opted to do this, many players would have their points totals suffer.

Tbh, the reason i decided to suggest this was because I was thinking about how awesome it would be to have a major tournament each year where most of the community would compete in. I would have thought that the privileges to make no points tourneys would be given at yourself and OP's discretion. i.e. only on rare occasions where you thought it would benefit the tourney.

Optimus Prime wrote:As for my personal opinion. If you are scared of losing points, you don't belong in a tournament. There are plenty of examples of good players who play a high percentage of tournament games and keep a pretty decent score. ;)

To me, tournaments are about prestige and having fun playing people in a more structured gaming environment. Do people join tournaments to inflate there score? I would say, no. My suggestion was purely to integrate the higher ranks into tournaments here at cc. If you don't want that, so be it.

Feel free to integrate yourself into a tournament at any time poo-maker. Any of the organizers would love to have you.

Re: Suggestion: No points Tourney Games

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:52 pm
by negoeien
Night Strike wrote:There's plenty of competition in tournaments as things are, and the high rankers who aren't obsessive over their points do compete in them. And many do well in them such as BaldAdonis and killmanic.

As for the no points, I'm very hesitant to back this idea because if the majority of tournaments opted to do this, many players would have their points totals suffer.


I'm always forgotten, dammit
Don't I do good? I already won 5 tourneys
anyways optimus prime has a point, more high ranked people would join these games without loss of much points.
So it is worth an effortn only a few high ranked participate in tourneys because the high point loss.

It would be interesting

Re: Suggestion: No points Tourney Games

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:02 pm
by Optimus Prime
negoeien wrote:
Night Strike wrote:There's plenty of competition in tournaments as things are, and the high rankers who aren't obsessive over their points do compete in them. And many do well in them such as BaldAdonis and killmanic.

As for the no points, I'm very hesitant to back this idea because if the majority of tournaments opted to do this, many players would have their points totals suffer.


I'm always forgotten, dammit
Don't I do good? I already won 5 tourneys
anyways optimus prime has a point, more high ranked people would join these games without loss of much points.
So it is worth an effortn only a few high ranked participate in tourneys because the high point loss.

It would be interesting

The effort needed to implement it is not worth the catering to a handful of players, no. If they want to play tournaments, they can do them privately amongst their own ranks, or join up with the rest of us. :)

Re: Suggestion: No points Tourney Games

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:19 pm
by BaldAdonis
If they're that good, they'll be able to win back what they lose.