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Same IP Indicator *rejected*

PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:43 am
by Tr0y
Record each players last login ip.

When players of the same IP join the same game, a * is put on their name, and then a note at the bottom or something that says these players could possibly be the same person.

Maybe when you mouseover the * it reveils other players name.

This way players can avoid such games if they choose.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:26 pm
by moz976
This would be a good idea.

Couldn't you though just not allow people from the same IP address into the same game (the exception would be team games)
I say to do that because if you are coming from the same IP and are different people you most likely have a pre existing relationship that is likely to come into the game.

Just my opinion though.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:10 pm
by supermarcol
I'd just like to say that even though you know someone and/or play from the same IP doesn't mean you necessarily have a preexisting alliance. You have to check the game log to. My earlier games I played agaisnt people I know, and we didnt team up, we fought each others fair and square. Now I only play doubles with my friends because I am scared to be tagged as cheating. But I'd like to play against my friends from time to time.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:21 pm
by moz976
I agree supermarcol that some people are honorable and dont allow outside friendships to affect game play but for every one person that plays the way they should there are 4 or 5 that don't play by the rules.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:00 pm
by supermarcol
I don't know, some guy stated this law that said that 80% of the effects are cause by 20% of the people. I think most people are honorable, but a few people screw it for all the rest. I'm not saying that we shouldn't do anything about it, cause it sucks, but just keep some leniency and give the benefit of the doubt some times.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:53 pm
by tals
Good idea - made me post almost an identical suggestion in another thread.

At least it gives people more information.

Tals

PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:56 pm
by LazarusLong
I think it's an excellent idea Tr0y. I suggested something similar about a month ago but never got a response. I think just putting a line in the game chat would be enough.

Player JohnDoe and JaneDoe have used the same IP address in this game.

And then leave it up to them to explain.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:34 pm
by vorm
It's an interesting idea, but I think it might cause a huge flood of cheating and multi accusations even for honorable players that don't deserve it. I think this would effectively bar all roommates and family members from playing together as well as friends taking turns at each others houses because if they did they would run a very high risk of being called a cheater and/or getting negative feedback even if they play honorably and no one would have thought twice about them being a multi or cheat if it weren't for the big * by there names or the message in game chat.

I often play team games with a "real life" friend and we have taken turns at each others houses, I know I wouldn't do that anymore if it was going to make a star appear next to our names. And like supermarcol, I already won't play singles games with him or other friends for fear of being accused of cheating.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:17 pm
by Evil Semp
I agree with vorm on this one. My wife and I both play here usually and mostly play team games. When we play a singles game it is against friends. If someone we don't know is in the game we let them know right away. I think this would just open the flood gates with sore losers making accusations.

ff

PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:18 pm
by dugcarr1
good idea,,,,,,

u should do what poker sites do...


singles game,,,, (cash games) only 1 IP


doubles.......(turneyments),,, 2 can play from same house.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:05 am
by vorm
Evil Semp wrote:I agree with vorm on this one. My wife and I both play here usually and mostly play team games. When we play a singles game it is against friends. If someone we don't know is in the game we let them know right away. I think this would just open the flood gates with sore losers making accusations.


Yeah, I think it would require a lot more mods needed to check into all the accusations that will follow. And a lot of them being made solely because two players had played form the same IP and no other reason.

While I have no idea how many people on this site play games from the same IP addresses, I would tend to think it might be higher than most would think since the main way people find out about this site is probably by "word of mouth" so to speak, as in friends telling other friends, family members etc. So in an attempt to prevent cheating, one could end up killing the site all together.

What is a shame is that all of us have to pay the price for the actions of a few. :(

PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:16 pm
by juggernaut man
[quote="moz976"] (the exception would be team games)
quote]

don't forget that people from the same IP address could be on opposite sides for team games and they could mess things up for either side. Also for the freestyle team games people or a person could go twice in a row first all the time like in my one game.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:45 pm
by Evil Semp
juggernaut man wrote:
moz976 wrote: (the exception would be team games)
quote]

don't forget that people from the same IP address could be on opposite sides for team games and they could mess things up for either side. Also for the freestyle team games people or a person could go twice in a row first all the time like in my one game.


There is nothing wrong with that in freestyle games. My wife and I do it if we think it is to our advantage. when we are home we talk stratagy before we enter the game. If you don't want team mates playing one after the other that is what sequential is for.

In freestyle your best made plans can turn to poop real quick if the other team starts playing while you are taking your turn. We had a game we thought was won but the other team jumped in at just the right time.

As far as messing up games if they are on opposite games, at least I can talk for this household I hate losing to my wife as much as she hates losing to me.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:00 pm
by juggernaut man
but still someone could have multiple accounts and be on opposite teams.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:32 am
by matando
I think this will only put more wood on the easily flaming people.

They lose against two different players that are on the network, not playing together at all and then start flaming that of course the two network players were having a secret alliance.

I think that this game will end up with a lot of *'s behind peoples names anyways since this game easily invites colleagues to also start playing.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:30 pm
by Marxwell
supermarcol wrote:I don't know, some guy stated this law that said that 80% of the effects are cause by 20% of the people.


Yeah, it's the Pareto's Law :wink:

PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 3:01 pm
by joeyjordison
sorry if this has been said but i log onto my mate's account to add him to team games i made and visa versa. i don't take his turns i just get him into games with me. it could suggest that we are multis

PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:00 am
by Teya
Im actually surprised this is pending as it seems the majority are against it.
I think it will definantly increase the amount of accusations of people being multis.
My partner and I play from the same computer, and we only play team games unless we know the other player/s.
We also take turns at my sisters place occasionally, and visa versa.

I just think it will cause WAY more trouble than its worth, yes you'll catch a few more multi's but isnt that why there are so many multi hunters these days?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:47 am
by sully800
First of all, we rely very little on IP's to catch multis.

And I don't think this would help to catch any more people, it would simply increase the number of accusations made. The one benefit I could see would be some multis having a harder time getting into games and therefore they might have less effect. The consequent negative is that many honest people playing from the same IP might have a hard time getting into games together.

Anyway, I think this might be pending from a while ago since its a pretty old suggestion, I don't know.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:32 am
by Teya
may see an increase in neg feedback from idiots as well.
Im just not sure its a great idea.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:32 am
by lackattack
I agree. I'm changing this to rejected.