lancehoch wrote:Farang, who do you think should play against the lower ranked players? It seems that you feel that anyone playing against a cook 1v1 is harvesting.
You are avoiding the topic. Please discuss the merits of my suggestion rather than make faulty assumptions about how you think I feel about unrelated things.
This sug bug is about high ranked players targeting cooks in quads games on difficult maps
like Waterloo. The data shows it is a proven harvesting technique
. Win 60, lose 0. Post on topic if you believe that this is not a harvesting technique, in other words, a risk-free way to gain points from inexperienced players and inflate the scores of the farmers.
Otherwise it is obvious that your off-topic postings are merely an effort to distract readers away from an argument that you oppose and yet cannot win by reasoned discussion.
If data showed top ranked players playing against cooks 1 on 1 will tend to gain points over time, I would allege that it is indeed harvesting. I'm not sure that is possible and have not researched it. Lack researched the same thing with New Recruits instead of cooks and decided it was a harvesting technique and made it illegal.
Lack kept his mind open and used numbers to make a decision. That is what I also advocate here and for research into any type of harvesting technique. Your opinions seem to be based on feelings instead of measurements - that is why you make no attempt to analyze or contest the mathematical facts behind this harvesting technique yet you continue to rail against the suggestion, blindly trolling off-topic.
You have 3 basic options.
Either points are mostly skill ... and you will get point inflation as the early good players will continue to win and increase in points until the lower folks, even those who are themselves good, just cannot keep up.
OR you have farming, where there is some benefit to higher ranked players in playing lower ranked players.
OR You have it entirely luck-based ... and then you might as well play Yatzee.
As for the whole cooks/etc. Speaking as someone who has gone from Leiutenant and now is pretty close to cook (probably will get there if the games keep going the way I think...) , AND as someone who has beaten more than one conquerer....(when they started, I will add
) Rank, other than the very top esceleon, has very little to do with skill. That is, you need skill to reach the top, but luck, luck and luck alone will readily put you at the bottom.
I got there because I play all the maps. Some I play more often, but when I reach in to play those I am not so good at ... I lose. I still play them. Why? I like challanges, I get bored, like plaing differant people ... and I like being able to say that I have won all the maps.
Any "solution" will have problems. I can see giving folks a warning before they join some of the more complicated maps. BUT, that could also be fixed by simply ensuring that some instructions are more clear. Bombardments, versus remote attacks for example. I would like to see restrictions on Assassin games.
But, overall ... playing cooks is just part of the game.