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[Rules] Kick after two missed turns in Speed Games

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:38 pm
by CoolHand_79
Concise description:
  • If a player misses two turns in a speed game they should be auto-kicked.

This will improve the following aspects of the site:
  • You join a speed game to play a quick game. I hate sitting waiting while people forget about their speed game or are playing too many of them at once.
  • If someone looses a connection during a speed game then everyone else is forced to waste 15 minutes of their time.

Re: Kick after two missed turns in Speed Games

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:01 pm
by owenshooter
conquer club is a casual online gaming site...-0

Re: Kick after two missed turns in Speed Games

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:12 pm
by GenuineEarlGrey
The current rules on time are fine.

Re: Kick after two missed turns in Speed Games

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:25 pm
by ronsizzle
CoolHand_79 wrote:Concise description:
  • If a player misses two turns in a speed game they should be auto-kicked.

This will improve the following aspects of the site:
  • You join a speed game to play a quick game. I hate sitting waiting while people forget about their speed game or are playing too many of them at once.
  • If someone looses a connection during a speed game then everyone else is forced to waste 15 minutes of their time.



what i think we have here is a failure to communicate. your time is so precious huh?

patience is a virtue.

Re: Kick after two missed turns in Speed Games

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:37 pm
by PLAYER57832
I actually agree with this one. I almost always play casual ( ... and definitely don't want changes there!). However, on the rare occasions when I do play speed games, I want just that ... speed. I would not like to see a shortening of the 5 minutes, but I cannot see a legitimate reason why someone would miss more than one turn unless they are not coming back.

I do realize that there are computer situations, but either they are resolved in a couple of minutes, or it will take time. Why should the other player(s) have to wait? The worst that would happen is someone would lose a game. So, basically you are weighing someone getting kicked off sooner than they might wish, versus making the other player(s) wait around an extra 10 minutes. (and note, I was recently kicked out of a speed game, about the only time I have evern been kicked out of a game ... I had a computer issue. The extra time did not help me, it just made my opponent wait extra)

The main thing this will do is help ensure that people play speed games when they really have the time... and STRONGLY discourage attempts to use missed turns as "strategy".

Re: Kick after two missed turns in Speed Games

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:40 pm
by sailorseal
owenshooter wrote:conquer club is a casual online gaming site...-0

No truer words ever spoken...

Re: Kick after two missed turns in Speed Games

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:47 pm
by Woodruff
CoolHand_79 wrote:Concise description:
  • If a player misses two turns in a speed game they should be auto-kicked.
This will improve the following aspects of the site:
  • You join a speed game to play a quick game. I hate sitting waiting while people forget about their speed game or are playing too many of them at once.
  • If someone looses a connection during a speed game then everyone else is forced to waste 15 minutes of their time.


Where I see the value in this suggestion isn't from someone losing a connection (which really doesn't happen that often), but rather for the numerous times when someone starts to lose a game so they just freaking quit. I actually had someone tell me I was a "lucky dice noob" and drop the game on me last week IN THE SECOND ROUND OF THE GAME.

This would help tremendously for those situations which, quite sadly, happen all the damn time in speed games.

Re: Kick after two missed turns in Speed Games

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:49 pm
by Serbia
I think it's a good idea too. If you're playing a speed game, then why not speed up kicking for missed turns as well? I'd like to see this one used.

Re: Kick after two missed turns in Speed Games

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:50 pm
by ronsizzle
PLAYER57832 wrote:I actually agree with this one. I almost always play casual ( ... and definitely don't want changes there!). However, on the rare occasions when I do play speed games, I want just that ... speed. I would not like to see a shortening of the 5 minutes, but I cannot see a legitimate reason why someone would miss more than one turn unless they are not coming back.

I do realize that there are computer situations, but either they are resolved in a couple of minutes, or it will take time. Why should the other player(s) have to wait? The worst that would happen is someone would lose a game. So, basically you are weighing someone getting kicked off sooner than they might wish, versus making the other player(s) wait around an extra 10 minutes. (and note, I was recently kicked out of a speed game, about the only time I have evern been kicked out of a game ... I had a computer issue. The extra time did not help me, it just made my opponent wait extra)

The main thing this will do is help ensure that people play speed games when they really have the time... and STRONGLY discourage attempts to use missed turns as "strategy".


dude. things come up all the time. leave well enough alone.

Re: Kick after two missed turns in Speed Games

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:03 pm
by the.killing.44
CoolHand_79 wrote:
  • If someone looses a connection during a speed game
Could'nt've put it better myself.

.44

Re: Kick after two missed turns in Speed Games

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:30 pm
by CoolHand_79
Please note this is note at all recommended for "casual games" The rules are fine there. This is for speed games. For instance, I jumped in a 4 player speed game at 18:57. This game is still going and it is 21:30! Red missed 4 turns now. Green missed 4 turns. Although green missed 3 in a row so got kicked. In my opinion this absolute kills the "speed" game feel. If I wanted to casual I would have played it.

See for yourself at game #4371940

This happens to me often.. 2 turns total in a speed game is more then enough time. If you can't work within that you should be playing a casual game. Just my thoughts. Please feel free to elaborate.

Cheers,

CH...

Re: Kick after two missed turns in Speed Games

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:42 pm
by ronsizzle
CoolHand_79 wrote:Please note this is note at all recommended for "casual games" The rules are fine there. This is for speed games. For instance, I jumped in a 4 player speed game at 18:57. This game is still going and it is 21:30! Red missed 4 turns now. Green missed 4 turns. Although green missed 3 in a row so got kicked. In my opinion this absolute kills the "speed" game feel. If I wanted to casual I would have played it.

See for yourself at game #4371940

This happens to me often.. 2 turns total in a speed game is more then enough time. If you can't work within that you should be playing a casual game. Just my thoughts. Please feel free to elaborate.

Cheers,

CH...



let me elaborate! there will never be a perfect system. get used to it, and quit crying. dont play speed.

Re: Kick after two missed turns in Speed Games

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:45 pm
by PLAYER57832
ronc8649 wrote:dude. things come up all the time. leave well enough alone.

In a speed game? If it is something that really cannot wait 15 minutes, then its probably not the time for you to play a speed game. Just play casual.

(note, "things coming up" is one reason I would like to see folks able to switch from speed to casual ... something discussed earlier... but the possibility would have be agreed in advance).

Re: Kick after two missed turns in Speed Games

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:15 pm
by CoolHand_79
Quoted from the "Premium Membership Section".

"Play thrilling real-time SPEED games"


I still think this is a great solution to games like the one I just played that was over 3 hours. Red missed 6 turns, green 4. That is 50 minutes of twiddling thumbs as I usually try and watch the speed games. It is really frustrating. I stand by my belief that miss two turns your out in a speed game. Maybe it should go to a poll?

Cheers,

CH...

Re: Kick after two missed turns in Speed Games

PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:08 am
by Woodruff
ronc8649 wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:I actually agree with this one. I almost always play casual ( ... and definitely don't want changes there!). However, on the rare occasions when I do play speed games, I want just that ... speed. I would not like to see a shortening of the 5 minutes, but I cannot see a legitimate reason why someone would miss more than one turn unless they are not coming back.

I do realize that there are computer situations, but either they are resolved in a couple of minutes, or it will take time. Why should the other player(s) have to wait? The worst that would happen is someone would lose a game. So, basically you are weighing someone getting kicked off sooner than they might wish, versus making the other player(s) wait around an extra 10 minutes. (and note, I was recently kicked out of a speed game, about the only time I have evern been kicked out of a game ... I had a computer issue. The extra time did not help me, it just made my opponent wait extra)

The main thing this will do is help ensure that people play speed games when they really have the time... and STRONGLY discourage attempts to use missed turns as "strategy".


dude. things come up all the time. leave well enough alone.


"Things coming up" is precisely why this suggestion is a good one.

Re: Kick after two missed turns in Speed Games

PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:32 pm
by CoolHand_79
So any more input on this one?

I still think it is very worthwhile.


Cheers,

CH...

Re: Kick after two missed turns in Speed Games

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:20 pm
by GenuineEarlGrey
CoolHand_79 wrote:So any more input on this one?

I took a fresh look at the postings. The only place I have sympathy for your idea is where people just give-up and quit a speed game half way through. To that end I'd say your better off lobbying for a "resign" button.

Sad thing is, if the change was made in a few months someone would post: "Kick after ONE missed turn in Speed Games"

The missed turn problem is annoying at times but so is life.

ATB

E.G.

Re: Kick after two missed turns in Speed Games

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:37 pm
by Rocketry
Yea why not - if you have already missed two turn in a speed game then the chances are yo wont come back for the third.

Rocket.

Re: Kick after two missed turns in Speed Games

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:06 pm
by CoolHand_79
GenuineEarlGrey wrote:
CoolHand_79 wrote:So any more input on this one?

I took a fresh look at the postings. The only place I have sympathy for your idea is where people just give-up and quit a speed game half way through. To that end I'd say your better off lobbying for a "resign" button.

Sad thing is, if the change was made in a few months someone would post: "Kick after ONE missed turn in Speed Games"

The missed turn problem is annoying at times but so is life.

ATB

E.G.



At the very least it should be maybe changed to 3 turns total. Like I said I had one guy who took a turn would leave for 2.. then take turn.. it was almost of it was strategy.

I see your point though but I don't think that would go over well. I mean "speed" games should be "speed" games and not miss turn games.

Cheers,

CH...