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qwert wrote:"Do you lose points for losing? If so, how many?"
hmm,i think that point table give you answer. Ofcourse you losing points.
Like i say if you are fieldmarshal and you win against cook, you will get 2 mvp point, and cook will lost 2 mvp point. But if you in any way lost against cook,then you will lost 16 mvp point and cook will get 16 mvp point.
Ah, now I see. I was right all along.
It does benefit you to be a low rank. The lower rank you are at the start of the month, the better chance you have to be MVP.
This will cause some people to dump points in order to get a better chance of being MVP.
But the real problem is that it is unfair for high rankers; they will have very little chance of being MVP.
Thank you for your time, Qwert... I'll probably be voting "No," unless we can come up with something different.
Of course, the flip side is, if we make everyone equal, it will lead to point farming... we cannot make it so that you win 20 points no matter who you play.
It may be that there is no right answer, Qwert.
But the right answer cannot be the one you have put forth, because you will end up with a winner who probably started at Sergeant or lower at the start of each month.
Which, of course, is extremely flawed... high ranks should at least have a chance of being MVP
qwert wrote:Huh,i dont know what words to use to understand each other.
First-in page 1 you have several diferent option for calculate mvp points-one of these its to calculate same like main scoreboard,only get points for one month.
Second have hes own calculation, like 3rd sugestion,and also 4th sugestion (last) have totaly diferent calculation for mvp points,and its look that you put all sugestion in on box,because now we get confused.
Just go in page 1 and look each sugestion separate,and not together, because they are not same.
Yes, but a lower rank has a better chance of being MVP when they play high ranked players. The lower rank will lose less points when they lose.qwert wrote:Look-You are high ranked player,right, and option 4 give you chance to be mvp, just need to defeat high ranked players.
If a Colonel point dumps and becomes a sergeant, and then loses to a Colonel, he only loses 8 points. If he were still a Colonel, he would lose 12 points.qwert wrote:option for have nothing with point dumping, because if you drop to be sergeant and you play with colonel, then you will get same points like colonel vs colonel.
qwert wrote:If you want to be mvp,you need to play with high ranked, not with low ranked player.
qwert wrote:I give you examle-major vs major vs colonel-and colonel win get 24 mvp points.
Assume that colonel belive if he drop points in regular board,and belive that he will get more mvp point if he become sergeant-totaly wrong
major vs major vs sergeant-sergeant win get 24 point.
qwert wrote:Now these prevent point dumping,because you dont need to be sergeant to get these number of points.
qwert wrote:That why i call quality ranking- If you are good and play with best,you will have big chance to be mvp,but if you try in easy way(playing with low ranked) then your chances to be mvp its low,even if you beat almsot all low ranked players,you will get less points. These second prevent farming.
qwert wrote:With Formula 4-playing big number with high ranked player give you bect chance to be mvp.
qwert wrote:i must say,that i first time heard that high ranked players are in big disatvantage.
qwert wrote:These is suggestion,its not any kind of order to be implemented.
I realy want to eliminate point dumping,and also i want to prevent point farming, because if i put to all be equal,then high ranked player,will play as much he can with low ranked,because win its secured,and i want to prevent that low ranked players be pigeons in plate.
qwert wrote:Also if you start like sergeant, these not meant that you will end month like sergeant, because in half month you can become colonel,and situation its change, then you will not lost 8,you will lost more points.
qwert wrote:Now we can disscuse over and over again,but if you have some ideas,please present, so that we can explore more.
chipv wrote:For clarification there is no issue about high ranks being at a disadvantage because everybody has a separate monthly
score starting at zero and points gained/loss are calculated using the monthly rank only.
by skipopidid » Sat Dec 25, 2010 4:37 am
So after reading through i dont know how many pages of higher ranked people whining about how this is going to be so hard for them to become the montly mvp what i get is this..
1) a monthly scoreboard reset every month. The scores for this scoreboard (correct me if i'm wrong) would be completely independent of the normal scoreboard
2) there may possibly be a medal (which has already been designed) for the winner each month
3) this gives newer players (like me) a chance at getting a little recognition for skill
i support this idea. i also believe it would bring newer players into the community more. It is kind of intimidating looking at everyone posting/playing having been here for a long time and have much higher ranks. Which would probably lead to newer players being more likely to stay.
cons- higher ranked players would have a harder time getting this medal? They are high ranked for a reason. I understand that they have worked hard to get those scores and ranks, but at the same time some of us havent even had a chance to proove ourselves and are being discouraged from doing so simply because its a daunting task to even attempt.
i do see one problem--Premium players have a much better chance of getting this medal because they have more of an opportunity to play games. I did see a suggestion somewhere in there to have a premi and freemi board which I support, but thats another matter to be handled if this suggestion goes through
by TheForgivenOne » Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:02 am
Quick question, is the first post up to date with everything qwert?
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