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Re: Best 1 v 1 map that has more strategy than luck?

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:43 am

There are some pretty good non-complex 1vs1 maps out there. Hit me up if you want to try some out, 1vs1 is the bulk of my play usually!


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Re: Best 1 v 1 map that has more strategy than luck?

Postby Roussallier on Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:18 am

I like Conquer Rome - 24 starting territories on each side and only +3 a round regardless of how many you hold. I play with fog, chained, no spoils.
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Re: Best 1 v 1 map that has more strategy than luck?

Postby army of nobunaga on Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:34 am

knights,,, 1vs1 is INCREDIBLE


other than that, Hive or Feudal epic
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Re: Best 1 v 1 map that has more strategy than luck?

Postby King Engineer on Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:17 pm

Thanks everyone so very much!
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Re: Best 1 v 1 map that has more strategy than luck?

Postby crazymilkshake5 on Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:54 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:There are some pretty good non-complex 1vs1 maps out there. Hit me up if you want to try some out, 1vs1 is the bulk of my play usually!


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Re: Best 1 v 1 map that has more strategy than luck?

Postby swimmerdude99 on Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:02 pm

Hive, conquer rome, and arms race are what I find to be the most enjoyable 1v1s!
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Re: Best 1 v 1 map that has more strategy than luck?

Postby mc05025 on Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:39 pm

Hive it is. If you are good at it you can have the rank of General by playing casual sequential games with random people. I do not know any other map you can do something like this. Try it with no spoil and chained reinforcement
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Re: Best 1 v 1 map that has more strategy than luck?

Postby HighlanderAttack on Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:16 pm

mc05025 wrote:Hive it is. If you are good at it you can have the rank of General by playing casual sequential games with random people. I do not know any other map you can do something like this. Try it with no spoil and chained reinforcement


It is because no one has the mental energy to play that god forsaken map
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Re: Best 1 v 1 map that has more strategy than luck?

Postby Jippd on Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:03 pm

Das schloss got me to general
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Re: Best 1 v 1 map that has more strategy than luck?

Postby mc05025 on Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:38 am

Jippd wrote:Das schloss got me to general


That is because you are playing speed games with 1 min and people do not have the time to understand a complicated map they do not know. If you were playing casual the results wouldn't be the same. More majors and colonels using BOB will join your games and your results would not be the same
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Re: Best 1 v 1 map that has more strategy than luck?

Postby DiM on Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:37 am

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mc05025 wrote:Hive it is. If you are good at it you can have the rank of General by playing casual sequential games with random people. I do not know any other map you can do something like this. Try it with no spoil and chained reinforcement


It is because no one has the mental energy to play that god forsaken map


hands down the worst map ever created. and i'm not talking just about the piss-poor graphics but also about the completely idiotic gameplay that fails at even the most basic needs for proper game mechanics.

one would expect such a huge map to be a good balanced one where dice don;t matter that much because of its sheer size.
in reality in 1v1 games it only takes a couple of turns with good dice and the game is yours. sure it will be 20 more turns before the game is actually over but those 2 turns of good dice are enough to take a bonus and establish a lead.
on a map that has the lowest bonus to terit ratio, being the first to getting and keeping a bonus is crucial and basically decides the game.

the only difference between getting and holding a bonus on doodle and on hive is that on doodle the game is over within 2 turns while on hive it takes a long gruesomely slow grind where each turn you take 5-6 terits from the opponent, then he snatches back 3-4, and so on.
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Re: Best 1 v 1 map that has more strategy than luck?

Postby mc05025 on Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:09 am

DiM wrote:
HighlanderAttack wrote:
mc05025 wrote:Hive it is. If you are good at it you can have the rank of General by playing casual sequential games with random people. I do not know any other map you can do something like this. Try it with no spoil and chained reinforcement


It is because no one has the mental energy to play that god forsaken map


hands down the worst map ever created. and i'm not talking just about the piss-poor graphics but also about the completely idiotic gameplay that fails at even the most basic needs for proper game mechanics.

one would expect such a huge map to be a good balanced one where dice don;t matter that much because of its sheer size.
in reality in 1v1 games it only takes a couple of turns with good dice and the game is yours. sure it will be 20 more turns before the game is actually over but those 2 turns of good dice are enough to take a bonus and establish a lead.
on a map that has the lowest bonus to terit ratio, being the first to getting and keeping a bonus is crucial and basically decides the game.

the only difference between getting and holding a bonus on doodle and on hive is that on doodle the game is over within 2 turns while on hive it takes a long gruesomely slow grind where each turn you take 5-6 terits from the opponent, then he snatches back 3-4, and so on.



You are wrong about everything you said. Actually you have played 1 game on hive 1v1 so I am not surprised

1v1 has the simplest strategy and that is why players use tricks when playing 1v1 (for example freestyle, manual or speed games). So do not expect a very complicated strategy. I believe that people with the rank of general or even Brigadier can play almost perfect after gaining some experience.

Now about hive a friend of mine (kaskavel) made it to general in no time playing Hive 1v1 and without using any tricks at all. He gained all his points by using a better strategy (a proof that everything you said was wrong)
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Re: Best 1 v 1 map that has more strategy than luck?

Postby Jippd on Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:31 am

mc05025 wrote:
Jippd wrote:Das schloss got me to general


That is because you are playing speed games with 1 min and people do not have the time to understand a complicated map they do not know. If you were playing casual the results wouldn't be the same. More majors and colonels using BOB will join your games and your results would not be the same


I play plenty of games with people that use bob, are captains and above, have experience on the map and still beat them. If you are trying to imply that I have no strategy in Das Schloss I can ensure you that you are wrong. None the less bob is useless in a FOW game on das schloss in a 1 v 1 minute speed. You can see from the log what your opponent is dropping and how many regions they have. That's all you need to know.

Hive is more about dice and who gets first turn, I can assure you there is more strategy in das schloss 1 v 1 than hive 1 v 1.
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Re: Best 1 v 1 map that has more strategy than luck?

Postby DiM on Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:13 pm

mc05025 wrote:
DiM wrote:
HighlanderAttack wrote:
mc05025 wrote:Hive it is. If you are good at it you can have the rank of General by playing casual sequential games with random people. I do not know any other map you can do something like this. Try it with no spoil and chained reinforcement


It is because no one has the mental energy to play that god forsaken map


hands down the worst map ever created. and i'm not talking just about the piss-poor graphics but also about the completely idiotic gameplay that fails at even the most basic needs for proper game mechanics.

one would expect such a huge map to be a good balanced one where dice don;t matter that much because of its sheer size.
in reality in 1v1 games it only takes a couple of turns with good dice and the game is yours. sure it will be 20 more turns before the game is actually over but those 2 turns of good dice are enough to take a bonus and establish a lead.
on a map that has the lowest bonus to terit ratio, being the first to getting and keeping a bonus is crucial and basically decides the game.

the only difference between getting and holding a bonus on doodle and on hive is that on doodle the game is over within 2 turns while on hive it takes a long gruesomely slow grind where each turn you take 5-6 terits from the opponent, then he snatches back 3-4, and so on.



You are wrong about everything you said. Actually you have played 1 game on hive 1v1 so I am not surprised

1v1 has the simplest strategy and that is why players use tricks when playing 1v1 (for example freestyle, manual or speed games). So do not expect a very complicated strategy. I believe that people with the rank of general or even Brigadier can play almost perfect after gaining some experience.

Now about hive a friend of mine (kaskavel) made it to general in no time playing Hive 1v1 and without using any tricks at all. He gained all his points by using a better strategy (a proof that everything you said was wrong)


it would help if you read my post before you reply. what exactly am i wrong about?
1. i said nothing about tricks and cheap tactics so i have no idea why you're mentioning this.
2. i said that the map has (one of) the lowest bonus to terit ratio which is indisputable. the fact that you're saying i'm wrong only proves that you're the one that's mistaking.
3. i also said the map has piss-poor graphics which is also indisputable. unless you're a fan of poorly executed pixelated borders, in which case you know nothing about graphics.
4. and finally i said that whoever has the first streak of good dice and secures a bonus wins which is also very true if you take into account that both players know what they're doing and the dice are average.
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Re: Best 1 v 1 map that has more strategy than luck?

Postby Qwert on Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:10 pm

try pelo war map,its give equal chances no mather who start first.
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