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Re: Holding Rank

Postby swimmerdude99 on Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:32 pm

When I stick to team games I easily stay above 2500 but when I start playing 1v1s or any type of standard games with lower ranks no matter how many I win (unless its like 50%) I can't stay up because when lower ranks win they take like 40 points.
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Re: Holding Rank

Postby Kiron on Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:23 pm

it's fairly hard...i can't even play so many games unless they are beta maps or specialized maps that I know inside out
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Re: Holding Rank

Postby chang50 on Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:26 am

swimmerdude99 wrote:When I stick to team games I easily stay above 2500 but when I start playing 1v1s or any type of standard games with lower ranks no matter how many I win (unless its like 50%) I can't stay up because when lower ranks win they take like 40 points.


It's very hard for players who like 1v1 to rise beyond Major,a few have done but they are exceptionally good.When I manage to claw my way up to 2000 points,I find I have to win 2.5 games for every loss just to hold rank.
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Re: Holding Rank

Postby Kaskavel on Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:56 am

2.5 would have been nice....
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Re: Holding Rank

Postby SirSebstar on Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:03 pm

Does this mean the OP is actually a wosre player and gets a leg up by his teammates? Or is he just worse in singles....
I think you should make the pointtransfer about the highest ranked in the team.. effectively making teamgames into single games, instead of effective pointfarming,.
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Re: Holding Rank

Postby chapcrap on Fri Jul 06, 2012 6:22 pm

chang50 wrote:When I manage to claw my way up to 2000 points,I find I have to win 2.5 games for every loss just to hold rank.

I find this to be unbelievable. You have to win 71% of your games to break even? Maybe as a Brig or higher. Not as a major.
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Re: Holding Rank

Postby chang50 on Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:14 am

chapcrap wrote:
chang50 wrote:When I manage to claw my way up to 2000 points,I find I have to win 2.5 games for every loss just to hold rank.

I find this to be unbelievable. You have to win 71% of your games to break even? Maybe as a Brig or higher. Not as a major.


Maybe a small exaggeration,but it certainly feels that way when a succession of cooks and cadets join my games as can happen.Btw I'm not whinging,I choose to play 1v1,starting games,so I accept the downside.
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Re: Holding Rank

Postby pmchugh on Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:02 pm

chapcrap wrote:
chang50 wrote:When I manage to claw my way up to 2000 points,I find I have to win 2.5 games for every loss just to hold rank.

I find this to be unbelievable. You have to win 71% of your games to break even? Maybe as a Brig or higher. Not as a major.


He would be playing ranks of slightly above 1200 on average, which isn't too unrealistic if you are starting public games.
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Re: Holding Rank

Postby agentcom on Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:37 pm

I thought for sure I'd hold on to my hat the last time I got it based on the games I was involved in. Alas, no luck. What chap said earlier is exactly right. It will depend on what types of games you're playing. For example, I consider myself a fairly solid player who likes to mix up maps and settings. I join a fair share of tournaments and also have multiple groups of people that I like to play with whether it's dubs, trips or quads. I have a couple go to maps that I know I'll gain points on, but I don't like to have too many games of the same type going on at a time. I don't think that I'm in danger of losing these swords anytime soon, but I know that it's going to be awhile before I'll hold on to a hat for any extended period of time. So for my style of play, I'd say it gets "hard" for me to hold on to my rank at colonel. If I played exclusively 1 v 1 games on my strongest maps, it would probably start getting hard much higher than that.
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Re: Holding Rank

Postby chang50 on Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:42 pm

agentcom wrote:I thought for sure I'd hold on to my hat the last time I got it based on the games I was involved in. Alas, no luck. What chap said earlier is exactly right. It will depend on what types of games you're playing. For example, I consider myself a fairly solid player who likes to mix up maps and settings. I join a fair share of tournaments and also have multiple groups of people that I like to play with whether it's dubs, trips or quads. I have a couple go to maps that I know I'll gain points on, but I don't like to have too many games of the same type going on at a time. I don't think that I'm in danger of losing these swords anytime soon, but I know that it's going to be awhile before I'll hold on to a hat for any extended period of time. So for my style of play, I'd say it gets "hard" for me to hold on to my rank at colonel. If I played exclusively 1 v 1 games on my strongest maps, it would probably start getting hard much higher than that.


Are you sure about the final part of your post,I think a Major playing 1v1 is equivalent to at least a Colonel playing multiple games,would take a lot of proving either way.
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Re: Holding Rank

Postby agentcom on Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:52 pm

chang50 wrote:
agentcom wrote:I thought for sure I'd hold on to my hat the last time I got it based on the games I was involved in. Alas, no luck. What chap said earlier is exactly right. It will depend on what types of games you're playing. For example, I consider myself a fairly solid player who likes to mix up maps and settings. I join a fair share of tournaments and also have multiple groups of people that I like to play with whether it's dubs, trips or quads. I have a couple go to maps that I know I'll gain points on, but I don't like to have too many games of the same type going on at a time. I don't think that I'm in danger of losing these swords anytime soon, but I know that it's going to be awhile before I'll hold on to a hat for any extended period of time. So for my style of play, I'd say it gets "hard" for me to hold on to my rank at colonel. If I played exclusively 1 v 1 games on my strongest maps, it would probably start getting hard much higher than that.


Are you sure about the final part of your post,I think a Major playing 1v1 is equivalent to at least a Colonel playing multiple games,would take a lot of proving either way.


I think it would be hard to keep major playing 1v1 games if you weren't somewhat judicious about the games you joined. However, what I was saying was that if I played all 1 v 1, but further limited to certain maps and settings (i.e. was very careful about the games I joined), I could hold colonel just playing 1 v 1.
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Re: Holding Rank

Postby Kaskavel on Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:45 pm

From personal experience, it seems that world 2.1 can preserve a low major and foggy peloponesian war can preserve a specialized colonel. Hive can do much better of course. Simple maps like classic will not allow you to hold on even trivial standings like 1700 points.
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Re: Holding Rank

Postby agentcom on Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:16 pm

Kaskavel wrote:From personal experience, it seems that world 2.1 can preserve a low major and foggy peloponesian war can preserve a specialized colonel. Hive can do much better of course. Simple maps like classic will not allow you to hold on even trivial standings like 1700 points.


I was about to say, "Kaskavel knows that from experience." LOL

But I agree. It goes back to what someone said before ... it depends on maps and settings (and of course your skill level)
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Re: Holding Rank

Postby MrPanzerGeneral on Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:35 am

I think you should be on this site for fun.....and I can have fun playing the highest pointed player or the lowest...no matter what map/no matter what settings....life's too short...and if you really worry about such things....I think you've missed the whole point of life, and better get yourself one. :)
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Re: Holding Rank

Postby Jdsizzleslice on Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:43 am

In my opinion, find a map with the settings that will get you points. For example... Mine is Mexico. I have a recent record of like 19-1 on that map... I know how to play it. And when I lost games & points, that has always been there for me to regain them, little bit by bit.

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