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I think they don't respect rules ...

PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:36 am
by Frozium
Hi all

I began to play 2 days ago and i think there is a problème.
We haven't to play with alliances if i understand rules, but in my game (6417168) players always fight me and never between us ...

2010-02-06 14:00:32 - andyscoot received 3 troops for holding Hong Kong
2010-02-06 14:00:32 - andyscoot received 4 troops for 14 regions
2010-02-06 14:01:03 - andyscoot deployed 7 troops on Shek Pik
2010-02-06 14:01:11 - andyscoot assaulted Chep Lap Kok from Shek Pik and conquered it from Frozium
2010-02-06 14:01:18 - andyscoot assaulted Tung Chung from Chep Lap Kok and conquered it from Frozium
2010-02-06 14:02:05 - andyscoot reinforced Tung Chung with 2 troops from Lamma Island
2010-02-06 14:02:05 - andyscoot ended the turn and got spoils
2010-02-06 14:37:07 - Frozium received 4 troops for 12 regions
2010-02-06 14:37:25 - Frozium deployed 4 troops on Sheung Shui
2010-02-06 14:37:35 - Frozium assaulted Fan Ling from Sheung Shui and conquered it from chevy1269
2010-02-06 14:38:31 - Frozium reinforced Kam Tin with 2 troops from Yuen Long
2010-02-06 14:38:31 - Frozium ended the turn and got spoils
2010-02-06 14:44:46 - chevy1269 received 4 troops for 13 regions
2010-02-06 14:45:19 - chevy1269 deployed 4 troops on Pak Tam Chung
2010-02-06 14:45:29 - chevy1269 assaulted Kau Sai from Pak Tam Chung and conquered it from Frozium
2010-02-06 14:46:17 - chevy1269 reinforced Po Lam with 2 troops from San Kung
2010-02-06 14:46:23 - chevy1269 ended the turn and got spoils
2010-02-06 14:46:27 - Incrementing game to round 3
2010-02-06 16:49:03 - andyscoot received 3 troops for holding Hong Kong
2010-02-06 16:49:03 - andyscoot received 5 troops for 16 regions
2010-02-06 16:49:38 - andyscoot deployed 1 troops on Clearwater Bay
2010-02-06 16:49:58 - andyscoot deployed 2 troops on Lok Ma Chau
2010-02-06 16:50:18 - andyscoot deployed 5 troops on Tung Chung
2010-02-06 16:50:22 - andyscoot assaulted Sunny Bay from Tung Chung and conquered it from Frozium
2010-02-06 16:50:34 - andyscoot assaulted Tsing Yi from Sunny Bay and conquered it from Frozium
2010-02-06 16:52:53 - andyscoot reinforced Victoria with 1 troops from Wan Chi
2010-02-06 16:52:53 - andyscoot ended the turn and got spoils
2010-02-06 18:43:41 - Frozium received 3 troops for 10 regions
2010-02-06 18:44:00 - Frozium deployed 3 troops on Sheung Shui
2010-02-06 18:44:11 - Frozium assaulted Lok Ma Chau from Sheung Shui and conquered it from andyscoot
2010-02-06 18:44:39 - Frozium assaulted Shek Kong from Kam Tin and conquered it from chevy1269
2010-02-06 18:45:12 - Frozium reinforced Cheung Wo with 1 troops from Sha Tau Kok
2010-02-06 18:45:12 - Frozium ended the turn and got spoils
2010-02-07 08:16:10 - chevy1269 received 4 troops for 13 regions
2010-02-07 08:16:28 - chevy1269 deployed 2 troops on Dabu
2010-02-07 08:16:34 - chevy1269 deployed 2 troops on Kau Sai
2010-02-07 08:16:46 - chevy1269 assaulted Yuen Long from Tuen Mun and conquered it from Frozium
2010-02-07 08:17:12 - chevy1269 ended the turn and got spoils
2010-02-07 08:17:12 - Incrementing game to round 4
2010-02-07 08:30:31 - andyscoot received 2 troops for holding Lantau
2010-02-07 08:30:31 - andyscoot received 3 troops for holding Hong Kong
2010-02-07 08:30:31 - andyscoot received 5 troops for 17 regions
2010-02-07 08:30:54 - andyscoot deployed 1 troops on Chai Wan
2010-02-07 08:31:03 - andyscoot deployed 1 troops on Victoria
2010-02-07 08:31:39 - andyscoot deployed 8 troops on Tai Lam Chung
2010-02-07 08:31:48 - andyscoot assaulted Kam Tin from Tai Lam Chung and conquered it from Frozium
2010-02-07 08:32:02 - andyscoot assaulted Sheung Shui from Kam Tin and conquered it from Frozium
2010-02-07 08:32:17 - andyscoot assaulted Lok Ma Chau from Sheung Shui and conquered it from Frozium
2010-02-07 08:32:30 - andyscoot assaulted Fan Ling from Lok Ma Chau and conquered it from Frozium
2010-02-07 08:33:31 - andyscoot ended the turn and got spoils

I'm stupid or they cheat ?

Re: I think they don't respect rules ...

PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:22 pm
by AndyDufresne
Ahoy,

Difficult to tell much from just looking at the gamelog briefly. If you feel you've been a target of Secret Diplomacy, I suggest filling out a Report in the Cheating and Abuse Forum.

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--Andy

Re: I think they don't respect rules ...

PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:26 pm
by frankiebee
I don't think they cheat, chevy1269 is only attacking you for cards. You probably left your territories with 1 army on it, so that where the easy cards for him :P

Re: I think they don't respect rules ...

PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:22 pm
by andyscoot
How dare you, you amature. i attacked you because you conquered a territory so I did it to stop you getting reinforcements, chevy1269 cannot attack me because i put loads of armies on the edge of my territories. I had first go and was lucky to gain areas and reinforce them.

How dare you complain after two go's. Perhaps you should tell me where to attack so it does not upset you.
I have now attacked chevy1269 for another area, hope he doesn't complain.

Grow up, what a baby.

In answer to your question, I do not know chevy1269 and have never contacted him, so in your words......you are stupid

Re: I think they don't respect rules ...

PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:57 pm
by sailorc
andyscoot wrote:How dare you, you amature.

Amature - A word used by those of a lesser intelligence to berate those of higher intelligence. Example: "That would be so amature". What it really means is "You're better than I am, I suck at life. Please God, put me out of my misery."

http://tinyurl.com/yf4bmum

No offence to andyscoot. I just hate misspelled words.

Re: I think they don't respect rules ...

PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:45 pm
by AAFitz
andyscoot wrote:How dare you, you amature. i attacked you because you conquered a territory so I did it to stop you getting reinforcements, chevy1269 cannot attack me because i put loads of armies on the edge of my territories. I had first go and was lucky to gain areas and reinforce them.

How dare you complain after two go's. Perhaps you should tell me where to attack so it does not upset you.
I have now attacked chevy1269 for another area, hope he doesn't complain.

Grow up, what a baby.

In answer to your question, I do not know chevy1269 and have never contacted him, so in your words......you are stupid


Hes not an "amateur", or a baby... hes a guy who just joined the site, and is getting demolished by two other players in a three player game.

chevy1269 4 12 34 4
andyscoot 2 25 68 13
Frozium 3 5 10 3

Now this doesnt mean there is cheating...but its hardly the most outrageous complaint ive ever seen.

anyways frozium...this does sometimes happen in a game...and sometimes it is definitely cheating...in this case, I think chevy simply was hoping green would not do as well as he did...and without a doubt made it easy for him to win, but it seems as poor strategy, more than outright cheating.

as for andyscoot... he seems a little touchy...might want to foe him and enjoy some of the more fun players we have here.

also if you want a laugh...google "amature" You might want to not misspell that one again andy... people may start to associate you with some rather...interesting topics.

Re: I think they don't respect rules ...

PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:58 pm
by jefjef
Frozium. I and many others would recommend you stay away from 3 player games. This is typical. Play bigger like 5 or more OR 1 v 1.

Welcome to CC.

Re: I think they don't respect rules ...

PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:09 pm
by Commander62890
Chevy just played it wrong, that's all. No cheating.


AAFitz wrote:also if you want a laugh...google "amature" You might want to not misspell that one again andy... people may start to associate you with some rather...interesting topics.

Awesome! :lol:

Re: I think they don't respect rules ...

PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:18 am
by Woodruff
andyscoot wrote:How dare you, you amature. i attacked you because you conquered a territory so I did it to stop you getting reinforcements, chevy1269 cannot attack me because i put loads of armies on the edge of my territories. I had first go and was lucky to gain areas and reinforce them.

How dare you complain after two go's. Perhaps you should tell me where to attack so it does not upset you.
I have now attacked chevy1269 for another area, hope he doesn't complain.

Grow up, what a baby.

In answer to your question, I do not know chevy1269 and have never contacted him, so in your words......you are stupid


It appears to me that you are the one that needs to grow up.

Re: I think they don't respect rules ...

PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:06 pm
by jefjef
Hey Frozium do you and gosken know each other?

Re: I think they don't respect rules ...

PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:28 pm
by pearljamrox2
yep...3 player games tend to go this way. that's why i don't play them.

Re: I think they don't respect rules ...

PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:23 pm
by nippersean
But you also got feel for Frozium.

I disagree with a lot of the posters here, did you look at it? The opponents play was questionable to say the least.....and a lot more....

But how hard is it to prove secret diplomacy?

Frozium - they targeted you for sure - both taking bonuses and not attacking each other, only you - no-one's that bad.

Avoid 3 player games - you just got a bad break there. I'm sure your other games will go better.

Re: I think they don't respect rules ...

PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:50 pm
by Donald Fung
andyscoot wrote:How dare you, you amature. i attacked you because you conquered a territory so I did it to stop you getting reinforcements, chevy1269 cannot attack me because i put loads of armies on the edge of my territories. I had first go and was lucky to gain areas and reinforce them.

How dare you complain after two go's. Perhaps you should tell me where to attack so it does not upset you.
I have now attacked chevy1269 for another area, hope he doesn't complain.

Grow up, what a baby.

In answer to your question, I do not know chevy1269 and have never contacted him, so in your words......you are stupid


Frozium: Score: 1000
Andyscoot: Score: 889

I don't think you're able to call him an amateur.

Re: I think they don't respect rules ...

PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:42 pm
by AAFitz
nippersean wrote:But you also got feel for Frozium.

I disagree with a lot of the posters here, did you look at it? The opponents play was questionable to say the least.....and a lot more....

But how hard is it to prove secret diplomacy?

Frozium - they targeted you for sure - both taking bonuses and not attacking each other, only you - no-one's that bad.

Avoid 3 player games - you just got a bad break there. I'm sure your other games will go better.


oh, i agree. Many if not most would wonder what was going on in that game. And him being brand new to the site, how could he not think it was cheating. However, it is easy for one to let one get away in a three player game...and I truly think chevy just played it too conservative. Secret diplomacy just doesnt make sense ...the freemium score is tragic...giving him the game just wouldnt really serve any purpose.

Re: I think they don't respect rules ...

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:59 pm
by Frozium
Thx for your comments!

I 've been kicked of the game ^^ So i will play with more player next time :D

Other game are better for me :twisted: !

Maybe i'm a noob ...

Good luck