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when is someone going to do somthing about the dices

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:52 pm
by dead_king
seriously ! i lost 12 dam game i n a row because im not even getting proper dices or the dice is totally rolling for my opponents and not rolling for me :@

Re: when is someone going to do somthing about the dices

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:14 pm
by AAFitz
dead_king wrote:seriously ! i lost 12 dam game i n a row because im not even getting proper dices or the dice is totally rolling for my opponents and not rolling for me :@


so the dice are messed up...but your opponents have great dice?

Re: when is someone going to do somthing about the dices

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:19 pm
by dead_king
yea and now its 14 games in row

Re: when is someone going to do somthing about the dices

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:55 pm
by jefjef
Interesting dice as of late. Today has been no exemption. I was sitting for someone running cards in an esc game. Hit a 3 with 19. Killed 1 & didn't get the cards. hahahaha.. "random" isn't the term for em. Guess it's my fault for hitting auto. Or playing.
Tried to eliminate ronc in another game I was sitting. He had 1. I got to em with 5 and he is still in the game.


fun. fun. Deff interesting dice.

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Re: when is someone going to do somthing about the dices

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:09 pm
by AAFitz
dead_king wrote:yea and now its 14 games in row


i bet your opponents dont actually think they have good dice though. I bet they think they are bad too.

No one thinks they have good dice. Everyone thinks they get horrible rolls.

and if you lost 14 games in a row, it wasnt the dice.

Re: when is someone going to do somthing about the dices

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:18 pm
by dead_king
when i play i cant even get my out territory...i play a game 2 days ago it took me 4 turn juss to get one homeland in the new world map! its starting to get frustrating...5 days ago i was a 100 points away from major ...look where my points is at now!

Re: when is someone going to do somthing about the dices

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:30 pm
by jefjef
dead_king wrote:when i play i cant even get my out territory...i play a game 2 days ago it took me 4 turn juss to get one homeland in the new world map! its starting to get frustrating...5 days ago i was a 100 points away from major ...look where my points is at now!


Be nice fitz.

Change the game. Diff settings. What not. Don't auto attack. Change what and how your playing. and put ronc8649 on foe. Believe it or not that changes my dice. Now I need to go foe someone. Good luck.

Re: when is someone going to do somthing about the dices

PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:48 pm
by kazoo
i agree, one day i will win like a 6 to 8 perfectly another day i will lose a 6 to 3 four times in a row!

Re: when is someone going to do somthing about the dices

PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:59 pm
by Blinkadyblink
kazoo wrote:i agree, one day i will win like a 6 to 8 perfectly another day i will lose a 6 to 3 four times in a row!

That's the definition of random, sometimes they're good and sometimes they're not. If they were always exactly even they wouldn't be random.

Re: when is someone going to do somthing about the dices

PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:03 pm
by Dr. Diplomacy
Caveat: this is a little esoteric for the forum, so stop reading now, unless you're interested in random probability concepts. I'm a professor who teaches statistics and Blinkadyblink is on the right track. The reason people think the dice aren't random is tied to a fundamental misunderstanding of the term when it is tied to statistical probability. We use random in everyday language to mean options that are different each time, but fairly equally distributed (one day I wear a brown shirt, then a blue shirt, but never the same shirt two days in a row).

But the term random in statistical probability just means that you cannot predict the next number in a series based on knowledge of the last number. We call this a random walk, like a drunk walking down the street, you cannot predict where they will step next (or if they'll throw up on their shoes).

In a random walk you get all kinds of outcomes that are patterns, for example, 5 6s in a row, or 7 1s in a row. The classic classroom experiment is flipping a coin and recording heads and tails, you frequently end up with 5, 6, or more heads or tails in a row (for a demonstration see: http://shazam.econ.ubc.ca/flip/).

A long pattern of the same outcomes always surprises people. "How is that random? I thought it was a 50/50 chance?" Because, the definition of random in probability outcomes only means you cannot predict the outcome, not that patterns won't emerge, and they always do. The larger the sample, the greater the likelihood of an overall statistical average matching the actual odds (1/6 for each dice outcome), but small samples can have any combination of patterns (5 6s or 7 1s).

In fact, 14 losses in a row are part of a random walk pattern. Even with this knowledge, I cannot predict your next outcome series, maybe 3 wins in a row. But we do remember bad outcomes far more readily that good outcomes.

Re: when is someone going to do somthing about the dices

PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:16 pm
by Iseman
Great explanation Doc!

Thanx for taking time to share that.

Ise