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Waiting rule?

Posted:
Wed May 12, 2010 5:49 pm
by Lionz
Would it be against a cc rule to wait and end without assaulting Caribbean here in round 9?
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=6936107There's a game here that will end within next 30 minutes for all I know maybe. StackedAmazon is Australia name and has played at around 6 EST PM perhaps.
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=6924319

Posted:
Wed May 12, 2010 6:02 pm
by Lionz
StackedAmazon just came on cc maybe.
Re: Waiting rule?

Posted:
Wed May 12, 2010 9:50 pm
by iamkoolerthanu
I don't fully understand you question, as both games have ended...
Re: Waiting rule?

Posted:
Wed May 12, 2010 10:00 pm
by squishyg
I read through the exhausting game chats and logs and I didn't see anything wrong except for perhaps a slight need for you to be really well liked by everyone in your games.
Re: Waiting rule?

Posted:
Wed May 12, 2010 10:18 pm
by ljex
he wanted to wait out the one game he was going to lose to end before he won the game he was going to win from my understanding

Posted:
Thu May 13, 2010 3:32 am
by Lionz
It's better to lose and then win than it is to win and then lose in terms of points maybe, but I took a more noble approach and went ahead and won the first before losing in the second perhaps. What's technically holding a player hostage?
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Posted:
Thu May 13, 2010 5:40 am
by slowreactor
Lionz wrote:It's better to lose and then win than it is to win and then lose in terms of points maybe, but I took a more noble approach and went ahead and won the first before losing in the second perhaps. What's technically holding a player hostage?
Holding a player hostage is when, you have the game pretty much won, the opponent is very easily killable, yet you do not end the game for any number of reasons: "punishing" the player, trying to kill all neutrals on the board, etc. It's worse for freemiums, since that is a slot that they could have used for another game.

Posted:
Thu May 13, 2010 4:37 pm
by Lionz
Well did Lionz do that in the former? You might want to look for times there... there was 1 on Caribbean perhaps. I did not have a main goal of trying to punish yellow perhaps, but maybe order of winning and losing games can make quite a difference in points won and lost.

Posted:
Fri May 14, 2010 6:56 am
by Lionz
Also, is it ever against a cc rule to wait to start a turn? Maybe I should get at least 24 hours to start non-speed games regardless of how easy it is to win somewhere.
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Posted:
Fri May 14, 2010 9:51 am
by ljex
Lionz wrote:Also, is it ever against a cc rule to wait to start a turn? Maybe I should get at least 24 hours to start non-speed games regardless of how easy it is to win somewhere.
You can take your turn any time in the 24 hours you have, there is no rule that because you are online you have to take your turn.
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Posted:
Fri May 14, 2010 10:11 am
by nippersean
Lionz wrote:Well did Lionz do that in the former? You might want to look for times there... there was 1 on Caribbean perhaps. I did not have a main goal of trying to punish yellow perhaps, but maybe order of winning and losing games can make quite a difference in points won and lost.
Are you sure there is a large difference in pts?

Posted:
Fri May 14, 2010 10:59 am
by Lionz
No maybe. What if you were sitting at 3000 for either a or b to occur...
a) You beat 7 players who all had scores of 1000 and then lose to someone who had a score of 1000 (You would end up at 2986 or so?)
b) You lose to someone who has a score of 1000 and then beat 7 players who all had a score of 1000 (You would end up at 2988 or so?)
What if you were sitting at 3000 for either c or d to occur...
c) You beat 7 players who all had scores of 3000 and then lose to someone who had a score of 3000 (You would end up at 3119 or so?)
d) You lose to someone who has a score of 3000 and then beat 7 players who all had a score of 3000 (You would end up at 3121 or so?)
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Posted:
Fri May 14, 2010 2:10 pm
by iamkoolerthanu
Lionz wrote:No maybe. What if you were sitting at 3000 for either a or b to occur...
a) You beat 7 players who all had scores of 1000 and then lose to someone who had a score of 1000 (You would end up at 2986 or so?)
b) You lose to someone who has a score of 1000 and then beat 7 players who all had a score of 1000 (You would end up at 2988 or so?)
What if you were sitting at 3000 for either c or d to occur...
c) You beat 7 players who all had scores of 3000 and then lose to someone who had a score of 3000 (You would end up at 3119 or so?)
d) You lose to someone who has a score of 3000 and then beat 7 players who all had a score of 3000 (You would end up at 3121 or so?)
I have actually thought about these types of scenarios, and they usually only give a few points, just like your post says. So basically waiting to take your turn does very little positives, and could annoy other players, but there is no rule against it

Re: Waiting rule?

Posted:
Mon May 17, 2010 10:52 am
by SirSebstar
be aware that your ratings could suffer if your opponant knows why you take that action. Obvioulsy, takeing days or weeks to wait for a string of won games, now that could be considered abuse. Just waiting a single turn would most likely not be seen as abuse. The point gain is really limited though so i am not sure its worth the hassle or the agrevation.