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Spamming to protest spam: NOT funny

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:41 pm
by stahrgazer
Twice this week, I, and a multitude of other players, have been the recipients of large pm's from tournament organizers.
  • One, from an ongoing tournament's organizer, who accidentally sent "To" all entrants, instead of "BCC"
  • One purposeful, from a pending tournament's organizer, advertising a tournament

There are those who took issue with the existing organizer forgetting to BCC.

There are those who took issue with the pending's organizer sending to anyone and everyone he could find.

I take issue with neither of those situations.

I did have a problem, however, with receiving dozens of 'STOP SPAMMING MY INBOX' spams.

It's not funny. Not even from Moderators telling people to stop.

Here's what I began to send each INDIVIDUAL who was spamming to complain of the spam:

*ahem*

Please stop spamming MY inbox to tell others to stop spamming *your* inbox?

See how I responded only to you?

Re: Spamming to protest spam: NOT funny

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:47 pm
by 40kguy
i bet that got you a smart alic comment.

Re: Spamming to protest spam: NOT funny

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:56 pm
by stahrgazer
40kguy wrote:i bet that got you a smart alic comment.


No, I got about 20 smart alec comments.

But at least I showed an example by sending to individuals rather than hitting "reply all" - so in addition to smart alec comments, I got some abashed apologies, too... and one "kudos" for sending to individuals rather than spam all the others who did NOT "reply all"

Re: Spamming to protest spam: NOT funny

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:57 pm
by 40kguy
stahrgazer wrote:
40kguy wrote:i bet that got you a smart alic comment.


No, I got about 20 smart alec comments.

But at least I showed an example by sending to individuals rather than hitting "reply all" - so in addition to smart alec comments, I got some abashed apologies, too... and one "kudos" for sending to individuals rather than spam all the others who did NOT "reply all"

isnt this spam to :lol:

Re: Spamming to protest spam: NOT funny

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:58 pm
by stahrgazer
Nope, it's a forum thread, not someone's inbox.

Re: Spamming to protest spam: NOT funny

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:03 pm
by owenshooter
I receive them 3-4 times a week and when I posted about it in the GD I was told by a mod to set my mail options or whatever (keep in mind it was a Jr Mint Mod Squad Member, so hardly a mod. Much more a sanctioned spammer/repeat rule violator). Hardly a solution to the ongoing games/tournament spam. I am of the sound belief that if I did such a thing, I would be put on a lengthy vacation. So why are selective members allowed to repeatedly do this? Throw in the CC Facebook page joining in on a specific tournaments SPAM and we are at critical mass. Something should be done about this...-the black jesus

Re: Spamming to protest spam: NOT funny

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:07 pm
by 40kguy
stahrgazer wrote:Nope, it's a forum thread, not someone's inbox.

ooooooo

Re: Spamming to protest spam: NOT funny

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:29 pm
by Serbia
40kguy wrote:
stahrgazer wrote:Nope, it's a forum thread, not someone's inbox.

ooooooo


As I recall, you sent out at least one yourself, 40k. Making you as guilty as the rest.

Re: Spamming to protest spam: NOT funny

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:34 pm
by 40kguy
Serbia wrote:
40kguy wrote:
stahrgazer wrote:Nope, it's a forum thread, not someone's inbox.

ooooooo


As I recall, you sent out at least one yourself, 40k. Making you as guilty as the rest.

telling people to stop

Re: Spamming to protest spam: NOT funny

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:38 pm
by Serbia
40kguy wrote:
Serbia wrote:
40kguy wrote:
stahrgazer wrote:Nope, it's a forum thread, not someone's inbox.

ooooooo


As I recall, you sent out at least one yourself, 40k. Making you as guilty as the rest.

telling people to stop

Night Strike wrote:HA, please BCC your entire tournament list to inform everybody that if they continue to use your list, especially without using the BCC, their tournament will be immediately canceled and they will immediately receive a disciplinary warning or forum vacation for spam. This also applies to any member who replies to everyone telling them not to spam.


Yep. Just as guilty as everyone else.

Re: Spamming to protest spam: NOT funny

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:40 pm
by Woodruff
40kguy wrote:
Serbia wrote:
40kguy wrote:
stahrgazer wrote:Nope, it's a forum thread, not someone's inbox.

ooooooo


As I recall, you sent out at least one yourself, 40k. Making you as guilty as the rest.

telling people to stop


Spamming people to tell them to stop spamming is, at the very least, highly ironic.

Re: Spamming to protest spam: NOT funny

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:38 pm
by Evil Semp
40kguy wrote:
Serbia wrote:
40kguy wrote:
stahrgazer wrote:Nope, it's a forum thread, not someone's inbox.

ooooooo


As I recall, you sent out at least one yourself, 40k. Making you as guilty as the rest.

telling people to stop


That is what is contributing to the problem. Half the ones I received were telling people to stop.

Re: Spamming to protest spam: NOT funny

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:02 pm
by Fircoal
It's much funner when you intentionally mean to spam the inboxes :D

Re: Spamming to protest spam: NOT funny

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:02 pm
by 40kguy
Evil Semp wrote:
40kguy wrote:
Serbia wrote:
40kguy wrote:
stahrgazer wrote:Nope, it's a forum thread, not someone's inbox.

ooooooo


As I recall, you sent out at least one yourself, 40k. Making you as guilty as the rest.

telling people to stop


That is what is contributing to the problem. Half the ones I received were telling people to stop.

dont forget two of them where mods. so you cant blame me for doing it.

Re: Spamming to protest spam: NOT funny

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:04 pm
by Gold Knight
40kguy wrote:dont forget two of them where mods. so you cant blame me for doing it.


There's some logic. "They did it, so it must be ok for me to do it". That's how Hitler rose to power...

Re: Spamming to protest spam: NOT funny

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:08 pm
by 40kguy
Gold Knight wrote:
40kguy wrote:dont forget two of them where mods. so you cant blame me for doing it.


There's some logic. "They did it, so it must be ok for me to do it". That's how Hitler rose to power...

yep. also a mod has no extra power if a player says stop you should stop. so it wasn't anyone's fault accept if someone just said stop and then you said stop that is just...

Re: Spamming to protest spam: NOT funny

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:37 pm
by Serbia
40kguy wrote:
Gold Knight wrote:
40kguy wrote:dont forget two of them where mods. so you cant blame me for doing it.


There's some logic. "They did it, so it must be ok for me to do it". That's how Hitler rose to power...

yep. also a mod has no extra power if a player says stop you should stop. so it wasn't anyone's fault accept if someone just said stop and then you said stop that is just...


ZING! And plagiarism.
Yes, 40kguy, you spammed my inbox today by telling people to stop. YOU SPAMMED. End of story. You deserve the same punishment as everyone else.

Re: Spamming to protest spam: NOT funny

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:48 pm
by 40kguy
help wrote: ConquerClub is maintained in large part by the volunteer TeamCC made up of members from the community who have taken on the responsibility of moderating, managing the Map Foundry, coordinating Tournaments, handling cheating accusations and helping members like you find answers to their questions.

If you would like to join TeamCC the best way to do this is to be "modly" in the forum: If you cannot moderate without the tools and title, you will have a hard time moderating with the tools and title. Existing TeamCC members are always looking out for potential members who are active, helping out others, organizing tournaments, commenting on maps in production, and who don't let themselves get baited and don't bait others.

Be active and helpful and someone will approach you.
what where you saying? did it not say to do stuff like that?

this should be locked im going to start flaming and i cant walk away or i look like a panzy for doing so.

Re: Spamming to protest spam: NOT funny

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:50 pm
by the.killing.44
40kguy wrote:
help wrote: ConquerClub is maintained in large part by the volunteer TeamCC made up of members from the community who have taken on the responsibility of moderating, managing the Map Foundry, coordinating Tournaments, handling cheating accusations and helping members like you find answers to their questions.

If you would like to join TeamCC the best way to do this is to be "modly" in the forum: If you cannot moderate without the tools and title, you will have a hard time moderating with the tools and title. Existing TeamCC members are always looking out for potential members who are active, helping out others, organizing tournaments, commenting on maps in production, and who don't let themselves get baited and don't bait others.

Be active and helpful and someone will approach you.
what where you saying? did it not say to do stuff like that?

this should be locked im going to start flaming and i cant walk away or i look like a panzy for doing so.

…or you can admit you're wrong (which you are), and call it there. And look like an idiot (not that you can do anything to stop this image), but at least not a pansy idiot.

Re: Spamming to protest spam: NOT funny

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:08 pm
by Serbia
There are certain things that only mods can do, 40kguy. You cannot threaten to ban people - you have no power. You have no real power. If you wanted to help, you should have responded to the last sender ONLY. You didn't. You knew what you were doing was annoying to everyone else, making it intentionally annoying.

Just admit you were wrong. For my part, I'm hoping for warnings at a minimum, and preferably a ban to everyone who sent more than one of the blasted things.

Re: Spamming to protest spam: NOT funny

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:36 pm
by owenshooter
Serbia wrote:For my part, I'm hoping for warnings at a minimum, and preferably a ban to everyone who sent more than one of the blasted things.

i just want an end to the practice. it is becoming over-bearing and is encroaching upon my CC experience. if they want to do that for tournaments that people have JOINED, that is fine. but to solicit me for tournaments, games, maps, etc, is an abuse of the PM system. CC should put an end to this, because it is at critical mass...-the black jesus

Re: Spamming to protest spam: NOT funny

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:39 pm
by Army of GOD
Can I spam everybody about a sale at JC Penny?

Re: Spamming to protest spam: NOT funny

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:14 pm
by neanderpaul14
Gold Knight wrote:
40kguy wrote:dont forget two of them where mods. so you cant blame me for doing it.


There's some logic. "They did it, so it must be ok for me to do it". That's how Hitler rose to power...



LMAO......... So we better keep unknownhero out of the Sudetenland. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Spamming to protest spam: NOT funny

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:25 pm
by squishyg
owenshooter wrote:I receive them 3-4 times a week and when I posted about it in the GD I was told by a mod to set my mail options or whatever (keep in mind it was a Jr Mint Mod Squad Member, so hardly a mod. Much more a sanctioned spammer/repeat rule violator). Hardly a solution to the ongoing games/tournament spam. I am of the sound belief that if I did such a thing, I would be put on a lengthy vacation. So why are selective members allowed to repeatedly do this? Throw in the CC Facebook page joining in on a specific tournaments SPAM and we are at critical mass. Something should be done about this...-the black jesus


FB/Twitter has been used to promote HA's 200th tournament, the CC 5th anniversary battle royales, and some other tournaments that players have asked me to promote.

The BR's required repeat posts so that the organizers could release game numbers and passwords to the community.

I personally decided to champion and support HA's tournament. I think what he does for this site is wonderful and that this landmark tourney deserves extra attention.

I appreciate your feedback. I hope to keep a balance on FB/Twitter and am always looking for interesting things to post.

Re: Spamming to protest spam: NOT funny

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:30 pm
by denominator
Personally, I didn't find them to be a big issue. I read the first one (from ChapCrap regarding the new tournament), realized all of the rest would be spam, and didn't bother opening them.

Keep in mind that this is the internet, you're not required to read anything here, and can walk away whenever you want.