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For The New Person Just Starting to learn

Posted:
Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:38 pm
by wacicha
---------------- THIS IS FOR NEW PLAYERS COMING INTO FORUM LOOKING FOR HELP
Try to stay away from freestyle games and wierd maps till you are a veteran of many games.
Do not play 3 or 4 person games till you have been around long enough to know the players you are getting into the game with!!
The easiest games to play and learn on I find are Classic Sequential standard escalating with either 1 fortification or unlimited fortification.
-----This is just to get you through the opening turns of that type of game after that point each turn can change the whole outcome
#1 1st turn Deploy only, Do not attack the first turn unless you have 3 out of 4 territories on the small 2 Continents
- Reason - In an Escalating game it is all about cards and men. But the cards are not as important as the men in the first 2 or 3 turns. Think of it more like you have cards but the other guy is keeping them for you.
then fortify a different spot than where you deployed if it is 1 fort or everywhere you can if it is unlimited fort.
#2 Do not ever try to take and hold Europe, North America, or Asia. (Africa is even iffy but can sometimes be done by a better player
Reason - you will be to spread out to properly hold and will spend all your men and effort retaking and fortifying the larger continents and will not be able to take out a weaker player because you are in one area instead of building on 2 or 3 different area's around the map
#3 Everytime you log into game you need to know who is the weakest player and do they have enough cards to be worth taking out
The easiest way to do this is to read the forum in General Discussions for a download called Monkey Script. It Keeps count of Cards, Men, and Countries of each Player you are playing in that game.
Forum - the forum is a tool that you can use. You need to use this tool for all the great information it can give you.
#2In a Flat rate game Men are very important.
In first 3 rounds you need to deploy stratigically and attack softly, if at all. softly means attack once if you do not win the territory then stop attacking. The only real reason you would attack is to take over the small continents because you have 3 of the territories. You may also try for Africa after the 3rd or 4th turn, if you own 3 or 4 of the african continent. More players lose tring to replace men that have been lost trying to hold the borders of North America or Europe, and rarely does any one hold Asia.
Flat rate is important to own each territory you have in the begining. What I mean is are you gonna attack a guy with 4 guys or 1 guy so if you can't get a small continent find 3 territorie to gether and start building from there deploy 1 on each and don't attack but maybe 2 out of 3 turns the first few turns and when you tyrn in a set it is ok to turn in a ed set if you own 2 of the card territories or have to turn them in cause you have 5 cards.
#3 no card game it is about territories and men again you need to own each territory you have leaving none with 1 man unless you got a shot at the small er territories but truth to tell in non card games you could end up owning usa or europe never try for asia ynless you own aussie it will caost to many of their men to breach yur borders and men do not replace easy in a non card game

Posted:
Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:59 pm
by neoni
north america has the same amount of borders as africa though. i find either really easy to hold, and from there it's so easy to go into south america which doesn't increase your amount of borders at all. i almost always play like that.

Posted:
Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:03 pm
by wacicha
but sir you are not a new player this was written for the new player in mind to get a better grasp on how to play in the beginning of his carreer
like for a rookie or private

Posted:
Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:10 pm
by GrazingCattle
This is a good start. I like this thread!

Posted:
Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:13 pm
by Robinette
very nice wacicha...
wish something like this had been around when I was new.
This was a most beneovolent thing to do...
and (hee hee) it is to the detriment of noob hunters everywhere!

Posted:
Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:21 pm
by wacicha
it was here once i wrote it way back when. No one makes it a sticky so eventually it will sink to the bottem.
it is also listed at the XiGamers forum
I play new people all the time i start the game - they join if they want to.
but I do seem to get the better quality players even most of the new ones

Posted:
Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:40 pm
by Stymie
This is very helpful. Thank you for posting it.


Posted:
Tue Mar 13, 2007 11:27 pm
by eolver
dont be scared question mark people...freestyle, escalating unlimited is a safe game.


Posted:
Tue Mar 13, 2007 11:31 pm
by Coleman
New Players You could always play my style. You either own everyone or look like a complete moron.


Posted:
Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:12 am
by subjekt
I had read the tips at xigames and found it to be very helpfull....thx, and all the noobs should be really paying attention to these types or articles/advice !

Posted:
Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:18 am
by ahchin
eolver wrote:dont be scared question mark people...freestyle, escalating unlimited is a safe game.

u think so? check this out. more of it can be found in game 288921. and best part is, i am taking my revenge now using same strategy. i dont mind johnnyrotten or qdial is online to read about my post and prepared to counter me. what i need them to know is, cheating in a game bring no fun to the game. keep cheating in real life and u will find no real happiness in your life.
2007-03-13 23:13:34 - johnnyrotten fortified Frankfurt with 1 armies from Nurnberg
2007-03-13 23:13:39 - johnnyrotten fortified Bayreuth with 1 armies from Bamberg
2007-03-13 23:32:55 - johnnyrotten ran out of time
2007-03-13 23:32:55 - Incrementing game to round 4
2007-03-13 23:37:18 - johnnyrotten receives 5 armies for holding Bavaria
2007-03-13 23:37:18 - johnnyrotten receives 3 armies for holding Rheinland
2007-03-13 23:37:18 - johnnyrotten receives 4 armies for 14 territories

Posted:
Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:19 am
by ahchin
the above post is a negative example. newbie please do not learn. but if u do, only use it to counter the enemy that cheat against u.

Posted:
Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:23 am
by MasterZ
More advice...
Get ready to dish out $20 ...


Posted:
Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:58 am
by Greatwhite
well done sir and that was posted months ago at
http://www.xigames.net , where the best Risk players hide out

Posted:
Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:06 am
by wacicha
yes i wrote that about 7 or 8 monthd ago we keep it on a sticky there for all to see with some other tidbits

Posted:
Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:24 am
by reverend_kyle
ahchin wrote:eolver wrote:dont be scared question mark people...freestyle, escalating unlimited is a safe game.

u think so? check this out. more of it can be found in game 288921. and best part is, i am taking my revenge now using same strategy. i dont mind johnnyrotten or qdial is online to read about my post and prepared to counter me. what i need them to know is, cheating in a game bring no fun to the game. keep cheating in real life and u will find no real happiness in your life.
2007-03-13 23:13:34 - johnnyrotten fortified Frankfurt with 1 armies from Nurnberg
2007-03-13 23:13:39 - johnnyrotten fortified Bayreuth with 1 armies from Bamberg
2007-03-13 23:32:55 - johnnyrotten ran out of time
2007-03-13 23:32:55 - Incrementing game to round 4
2007-03-13 23:37:18 - johnnyrotten receives 5 armies for holding Bavaria
2007-03-13 23:37:18 - johnnyrotten receives 3 armies for holding Rheinland
2007-03-13 23:37:18 - johnnyrotten receives 4 armies for 14 territories
these strategies are part of what makes freestyle interesting.
alot to guard against.

Posted:
Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:34 pm
by yukio
ehh... i can see both sides of the issue there (referring to the time out ploy) but it seems like players who resort to "bending" the rules do so because they don't have the skills to play "by the rules" or just want to take shortcuts to get the all-important points. how is it different than the ol' miss a turn get multiplied armies trick. i don't really see the benefit - i get my satisfaction from out-classing my opponents in strategy and skill not exploiting a quirk in gameplay. As for fighting fire with fire (someone screws you over with an underhanded move, so you begin to do it yourself) really helps nobody and makes things less fun in the long run.

Re: For The New Person Just Starting to learn

Posted:
Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:53 pm
by alster
wacicha wrote:---------------- THIS IS FOR NEW PLAYERS COMING INTO FORUM LOOKING FOR HELP
You forgot to advice the newbies to sign up for Bushwacker games...


Posted:
Wed Mar 14, 2007 3:03 pm
by spinwizard
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pw= fun
all games r classic, standard, seq, esc, adj
all welcome, noobs or experienced players!

Posted:
Wed Mar 14, 2007 3:32 pm
by wacicha
But I did give info Alstergren on you guys-- I told them to wait tell they know the players better. That could be good or bad for the whackers

Posted:
Wed Mar 14, 2007 4:09 pm
by AAFitz
The advice is all golden...especially the continents....hell i have a hard time convicing new partners that they cant be taken
but personally, i started with the 3 and 4 player games, and while the occasional cheaters took me out every once in a while, i think its one of the best ways to see how the games play out....
i think it is much harder to win 5 and 6 player games myself...and if they dont play two players that seem to play every game together...i think it may be their best chance at a win...but i could be wrong....
listen to the rest of it by all means though....and you will learn which rules you can adjust as you get going...
oh yeah...and in the way of advice....do not accuse people of cheating in a game...no matter what....if they are you will lose...if they arent you will lose...wait to see how the entire game plays out...if you suspect foul play, unless its blatent you can use the form and post a claim...but I highly reccomend you avoid this unless you are 99% sure...because crazy stuff happens in these games...someone always loses, and someone always attacks one of the players too much...if they didnt...it would never end....just dont be the one that attacks the wrong player too much, and thats more than half the battle...

Posted:
Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:58 pm
by wacicha
thanks for imput AA
Re: For The New Person Just Starting to learn

Posted:
Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:04 pm
by Hologram
wacicha wrote:---------------- THIS IS FOR NEW PLAYERS COMING INTO FORUM LOOKING FOR HELP
Try to stay away from freestyle games and wierd maps till you are a veteran of many games.
Do not play 3 or 4 person games till you have been around long enough to know the players you are getting into the game with!!
The easiest games to play and learn on I find are Classic Sequential standard escalating with either 1 fortification or unlimited fortification.
-----This is just to get you through the opening turns of that type of game after that point each turn can change the whole outcome
#1 1st turn Deploy only, Do not attack the first turn unless you have 3 out of 4 territories on the small 2 Continents
- Reason - In an Escalating game it is all about cards and men. But the cards are not as important as the men in the first 2 or 3 turns. Think of it more like you have cards but the other guy is keeping them for you.
then fortify a different spot than where you deployed if it is 1 fort or everywhere you can if it is unlimited fort.
#2 Do not ever try to take and hold Europe, North America, or Asia. (Africa is even iffy but can sometimes be done by a better player
Reason - you will be to spread out to properly hold and will spend all your men and effort retaking and fortifying the larger continents and will not be able to take out a weaker player because you are in one area instead of building on 2 or 3 different area's around the map
#3 Everytime you log into game you need to know who is the weakest player and do they have enough cards to be worth taking out
The easiest way to do this is to read the forum in General Discussions for a download called Monkey Script. It Keeps count of Cards, Men, and Countries of each Player you are playing in that game.
Forum - the forum is a tool that you can use. You need to use this tool for all the great information it can give you.
#2In a Flat rate game Men are very important.
In first 3 rounds you need to deploy stratigically and attack softly, if at all. softly means attack once if you do not win the territory then stop attacking. The only real reason you would attack is to take over the small continents because you have 3 of the territories. You may also try for Africa after the 3rd or 4th turn, if you own 3 or 4 of the african continent. More players lose tring to replace men that have been lost trying to hold the borders of North America or Europe, and rarely does any one hold Asia.
Flat rate is important to own each territory you have in the begining. What I mean is are you gonna attack a guy with 4 guys or 1 guy so if you can't get a small continent find 3 territorie to gether and start building from there deploy 1 on each and don't attack but maybe 2 out of 3 turns the first few turns and when you tyrn in a set it is ok to turn in a ed set if you own 2 of the card territories or have to turn them in cause you have 5 cards.
#3 no card game it is about territories and men again you need to own each territory you have leaving none with 1 man unless you got a shot at the small er territories but truth to tell in non card games you could end up owning usa or europe never try for asia ynless you own aussie it will caost to many of their men to breach yur borders and men do not replace easy in a non card game
Of course, you must know, no good strategist ever, ever sets anything in stone.

THANKS FOR THE INFO Wacicha

Posted:
Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:57 am
by wick
THANKS, for the tips Wacicha, ill put them to good use... i wish i got this intell a little earlier thou.

Posted:
Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:00 am
by mandalorian2298
To all new players: be sceptical of people who are trying to warn/criticize/teach you in the game chat (exept if they are your partners in Doubles or Triples game). Remember that in non-team game EVERYONE is your opponent so don't allow people to bully or ingratiate you.
Oh, don't worry about sucking in your first 10 games or so. Excepting few uber-strategiest who hit the running start, everyone sucks at first, especially on the non-Classic maps. Start by having fun and learning and you can go point hunting later (besides, the more you suck when you start, the more points you will take from good players once you start winning

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