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Battle Royals a big dissapointment
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Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:51 amby Chewie1
After finding out about the latest Battle Royals just over a week ago I was excited about finally getting a chance to play them (I even set my alarm for 5 oclock in the morning to get in on the first ones)
But after playing 10 or so games I was left let down by the experience. Because all the games HAVE to be played freestyle, as my internet connection is slower than most, In freestyle I generally run around 10 seconds behind. Despite continuosly hitting refresh I got eliminated in several without getting the chance to deploy. By point collectors not players trying to win the game ( yes you Eternal Shadow,,,3 games when u then got eliminated yourself next round as you left yourself to weak to gain a few precious points) All terminator games.
But then In games I made it past the point whores it was the usual players you see playing freestyle sweep the board, not because they are neccesary good players but because they have fast internet.
Obviously if the games were srandard you would still get the point collectors hitting in the first round for points but when all this was out the way the better players could use strategy not internet speed.
Maybe all this is what Battle Royals have been like in the past but as this was my first time playing I thought it would be a better experience.
Re: Battle Royals a big dissapointment
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Mon Jan 02, 2012 4:00 amby angola
A standard game with 2 minute rounds wouldn't take all that long, frankly.
Re: Battle Royals a big dissapointment
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Mon Jan 02, 2012 4:03 amby angola
As an aside, I'm enjoying the games so far and I suck at freestyle.
Re: Battle Royals a big dissapointment
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Mon Jan 02, 2012 4:08 amby King_Herpes
Sorry about your ungrateful little butt
Re: Battle Royals a big dissapointment
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Mon Jan 02, 2012 4:14 amby Chewie1
King_Herpes wrote:Sorry about your ungrateful little butt
Lol not ungrateful I appreciate everyting that CC admin and mods do.... but just expected something for everyone.
Re: Battle Royals a big dissapointment
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Mon Jan 02, 2012 4:18 amby rdsrds2120
Chewie1 wrote:King_Herpes wrote:Sorry about your ungrateful little butt
Lol not ungrateful I appreciate everyting that CC admin and mods do.... but just expected something for everyone.
We understand, but it's hard to GUARANTEE that the game won't last forever, and we really don't want people to sit behind their screen...bored...for hours..in one game. Heck, it happened last year in a freestyle speed game! The game took 2 hours!
As an attempt to compensate for this, there are some sequential, casual BR's after the event is finished, be sure to hear more about those in the following day or so!
-rd
Re: Battle Royals a big dissapointment
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Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:10 amby greenoaks
rdsrds2120 wrote:Chewie1 wrote:King_Herpes wrote:Sorry about your ungrateful little butt
Lol not ungrateful I appreciate everyting that CC admin and mods do.... but just expected something for everyone.
We understand, but it's hard to GUARANTEE that the game won't last forever, and we really don't want people to sit behind their screen...bored...for hours..in one game. Heck, it happened last year in a freestyle speed game! The game took 2 hours!
As an attempt to compensate for this, there are some sequential, casual BR's after the event is finished, be sure to hear more about those in the following day or so!
-rd
i too have a really slow internet speed and have not participated in the birthday celebrations because of it. how about putting some sequential BR's up now for us to feel a part of the party.
Re: Battle Royals a big dissapointment
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Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:37 amby Gilligan
Sequential speed would take a liiiiiiiiiiiiiiittle too long
Re: Battle Royals a big dissapointment
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Mon Jan 02, 2012 9:00 amby SirSebstar
rdsrds2120 wrote:Chewie1 wrote:King_Herpes wrote:Sorry about your ungrateful little butt
Lol not ungrateful I appreciate everyting that CC admin and mods do.... but just expected something for everyone.
We understand, but it's hard to GUARANTEE that the game won't last forever, and we really don't want people to sit behind their screen...bored...for hours..in one game. Heck, it happened last year in a freestyle speed game! The game took 2 hours!
As an attempt to compensate for this, there are some sequential, casual BR's after the event is finished, be sure to hear more about those in the following day or so!
-rd
YEA!!!!
Re: Battle Royals a big dissapointment
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Mon Jan 02, 2012 9:29 amby AndyDufresne
A few non-speed and non-freestyle games may be created towards the end of the event.
--Andy
Re: Battle Royals a big dissapointment
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Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:11 amby VOC
won 2 out of 4 thnx!!!!
Re: Battle Royals a big dissapointment
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Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:13 amby zimmah
nice i'll try to join at least 1 of those.
Re: Battle Royals a big dissapointment
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Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:16 amby zimmah
VOC wrote:won 2 out of 4 thnx!!!!
mazzelpik
Re: Battle Royals a big dissapointment
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Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:59 amby Agent 86
Hope those sequential games come up soon..absolutely impossible for me to play freestyle from China..couldn't even get a turn in the first one I tried and that was my battle royal experience for good if they are freestyle. By the way it's now Tuesday early morning, so it looks like my battle royals will never eventuate, they will be posted when I'm fast asleep. Good night all and enjoy if you have fast internet
86
Re: Battle Royals a big dissapointment
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Mon Jan 02, 2012 12:00 pmby Dukasaur
angola wrote:A standard game with 2 minute rounds wouldn't take all that long, frankly.
Exactly.
Gilligan wrote:Sequential speed would take a liiiiiiiiiiiiiiittle too long
Under 3 hours even on a really big map, by my calculations. Under 1 hour on some of the smaller ones. For some people that's a long time, but for most it isn't.
Re: Battle Royals a big dissapointment
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Mon Jan 02, 2012 12:22 pmby blakebowling
Dukasaur wrote:angola wrote:A standard game with 2 minute rounds wouldn't take all that long, frankly.
Exactly.
Gilligan wrote:Sequential speed would take a liiiiiiiiiiiiiiittle too long
Under 3 hours even on a really big map, by my calculations. Under 1 hour on some of the smaller ones. For some people that's a long time, but for most it isn't.
Your calculations are way off.
In order for a doodle seq br to end in under an hour, each player would have to take <40 seconds for their turn, and the game would have to end in 5 rounds.
Re: Battle Royals a big dissapointment
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Mon Jan 02, 2012 12:39 pmby HighlanderAttack
I too think seq should be added--If players are willing to spend the time --give it to them. I experienced the same issues from the past with a slow pc and slow internet--luckily this year--one game and one win as I do have faster of the both needed to win. Give them sequential and they will come.
Re: Battle Royals a big dissapointment
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Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:56 pmby IcePack
I would much prefer a sequential game. and some non-terminator games....
Re: Battle Royals a big dissapointment
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Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:54 pmby HighlanderAttack
IcePack wrote:I would much prefer a sequential game. and some non-terminator games....
I was in a standard esc freestyle game and it was really fun--lasted about ten minutes for me but it was fun while it lasted
Re: Battle Royals a big dissapointment
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Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:45 pmby Dukasaur
blakebowling wrote:Dukasaur wrote:angola wrote:A standard game with 2 minute rounds wouldn't take all that long, frankly.
Exactly.
Gilligan wrote:Sequential speed would take a liiiiiiiiiiiiiiittle too long
Under 3 hours even on a really big map, by my calculations. Under 1 hour on some of the smaller ones. For some people that's a long time, but for most it isn't.
Your calculations are way off.
In order for a doodle seq br to end in under an hour, each player would have to take <40 seconds for their turn, and the game would have to end in 5 rounds.
For the benefit of those who can't see our private discussion, I bring the public part of my answer:
Dukasaur wrote:You're assuming that the game would go twenty rounds with all the players intact, which is incredibly unlikely. Assuming escalating spoils, the killing begins as soon as there are enough cards in play to make mid-turn cashes a reasonable possibility. In a four-player game, that 11 or 12 rounds, in a five-player game that's about 10 or 11 rounds, in a six-player game it's about 9 or 10 rounds, and so on. I run a lot of seven- and eight-player games; they rarely get into double digits. The more players, the sooner the killing starts. Game Ten Million, with 50 players, ended today early in round 4. (And no, I didn't win; another good reason for me to be bitchy.)
If these games go into the double digits, it's with only two or three survivors of the original field. That's about the only way an escalating game continues: if two or three survivors have not enough power to kill each other. But at that point it's no longer a BR; it's just a two-or-three player game.
Now we had this debate a year ago, I thought people understood my point. How many times will I have to prove it? I thought that's why we tried game Ten Million as sequential, to see if it really would last forever, and of course it didn't. With 24-hour turns, it went less than two months. Two minutes is 1/720th of 24 hours, so if a sequential BR with 24 hour turns lasts less than two months, it's reasonable to assume that the same game with 2-minute turns would last two hours; for sure not more than 3.
Re: Battle Royals a big dissapointment
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Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:02 pmby Crazyirishman
I cant wait for the person who wants this to sits at the computer for an hour waiting, only to killed by the private who will get 40 points by suiciding two turns before they go
Re: Battle Royals a big dissapointment
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Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:23 pmby TeeGee
For those of you who want a seq non speed game
try this one
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1000001
Re: Battle Royals a big dissapointment
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Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:46 pmby HighlanderAttack
yea right
I think a small map doodle one minute seq would work out fine with standard esc
Re: Battle Royals a big dissapointment
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Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:47 pmby QoH
There's a reason why I hate flat rate.
Re: Battle Royals a big dissapointment
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Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:48 pmby Sniper08
i tried to load the log and it crashed firefox