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Order in my games

PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:14 am
by lt.Futt
How come I am second in order in my 1v1 games?

I need to foe players for have like 10-15 starters vs mine 1-2. Often when I check recent games I see that opponents start like 10-15 in a row vs mine 1-2. I don't remember which year. I played 1v1 speed games during summer. I was second in order in 30 games out of 36.

My mantra is drop, dice and order in my disfavor.

Re: Order in my games

PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:17 am
by chang50
lt.Futt wrote:How come I am second in order in my 1v1 games?

I need to foe players for have like 10-15 starters vs mine 1-2. Often when I check recent games I see that opponents start like 10-15 in a row vs mine 1-2. I don't remember which year. I played 1v1 speed games during summer. I was second in order in 30 games out of 36.

My mantra is drop, dice and order in my disfavor.


Boo hoo hoo,grow up.

Re: Order in my games

PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:27 am
by lt.Futt
chang50 wrote:
lt.Futt wrote:How come I am second in order in my 1v1 games?

I need to foe players for have like 10-15 starters vs mine 1-2. Often when I check recent games I see that opponents start like 10-15 in a row vs mine 1-2. I don't remember which year. I played 1v1 speed games during summer. I was second in order in 30 games out of 36.

My mantra is drop, dice and order in my disfavor.


Boo hoo hoo,grow up.


Frustrating not to find a logic answare? I understand your frustration. Let it out. I can take it.

Re: Order in my games

PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 10:03 am
by BigBallinStalin
Oh, whoa, you remember one streak which happened be not in your favor? Never mind any streak which was favorable to you.

The System is working against you, Futt. It's got nothing to do with you. Nothing at all.

Re: Order in my games

PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 10:42 am
by loutil
You have had an interesting run against you. In your last 23 games your opponent went first 18 times. In your last 36 games your opponent went first 26 times.

Re: Order in my games

PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 11:10 am
by rhp 1
lt.Futt wrote:How come I am second in order in my 1v1 games?

I need to foe players for have like 10-15 starters vs mine 1-2. Often when I check recent games I see that opponents start like 10-15 in a row vs mine 1-2. I don't remember which year. I played 1v1 speed games during summer. I was second in order in 30 games out of 36.

My mantra is drop, dice and order in my disfavor.



you usual fail in logical thought.. your sample size is far too small... 30 some games? not even a reasonable sample size...

Re: Order in my games

PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 11:14 am
by lt.Futt
BigBallinStalin wrote:Oh, whoa, you remember one streak which happened be not in your favor? Never mind any streak which was favorable to you.

The System is working against you, Futt. It's got nothing to do with you. Nothing at all.


Everybody has good and bad streaks. In my opinion nothing alarming. 5-6-7 in a row now and then, alright, but twice these numbers is not. In a vast majority definately is not.

However I understand your frustration for lack of a logical explanation. On the other hand, obviously it's not your issues. I mean what if what I say is true?

I remember I made a thread the summer I was second in order in 30 1v1 games out of 36. Several players did research. I remember one answare. This is what was said:

Just stop playing. Doesn't get any better htan that.

Re: Order in my games

PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 12:27 pm
by BigBallinStalin
Gee, what are the odds of this happening to you? It's like impossible to flip a coin and get heads 30 times, tails once. Then, stop recording some arbitrary number of flips, and then notice again the seemingly impossible: heads 15 times, tails once.

Maybe you're not still not getting it. 30/36 flips were heads! IMPOSSIBLE!! <ignore subsequent flips>. Arbitrarily notice: 15/17 heads! IMPOSSIBLE!!! FUTT R TEH ANGRYE!!!


What a dumb thread. This is even worse than the dice threads. At least the probability involved with 3v2 dice is understandably a bit more complex.

Re: Order in my games

PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 12:56 pm
by lt.Futt
loutil wrote:You have had an interesting run against you. In your last 23 games your opponent went first 18 times. In your last 36 games your opponent went first 26 times.


One week I foe one player for having like 15-18 starters vs mine 2-3-4. A few days later I foe the next play. Their total were like 25-30 vs mine 7, I guess. In addition when my dice is weaker, I can't win games. No to play. Just drop and wait to be killed.

$25 a year is cheap. No wonder.

Re: Order in my games

PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 1:06 pm
by lt.Futt
BigBallinStalin wrote:Gee, what are the odds of this happening to you? It's like impossible to flip a coin and get heads 30 times, tails once. Then, stop recording some arbitrary number of flips, and then notice again the seemingly impossible: heads 15 times, tails once.

Maybe you're not still not getting it. 30/36 flips were heads! IMPOSSIBLE!! <ignore subsequent flips>. Arbitrarily notice: 15/17 heads! IMPOSSIBLE!!! FUTT R TEH ANGRYE!!!


What a dumb thread. This is even worse than the dice threads. At least the probability involved with 3v2 dice is understandably a bit more complex.


Explain games for me this far in October and November. Please. Note how frequent the list is updated. Several games each hour.




10.26.2013 Game 13508862 Round 5. 30 terts vs 14.
10.27.2013 Game 13508862 Round 6. 27 terts and 3 full kingdoms vs 15. He even run another 12 terts. This guy even complaint about bad dice.
10.27.2013 Game 13512912 Round 3. 21 terts + a Village vs mine 21. Round 4 knock out all of one of my Kingdom's. Far over the top.
10.27.2013 Game 13514844 Knock out my Kingdom in round 5 which is extreme. I ran across the map to hit back just to meet his 2nd Kingdom's gate blocked by just as big stack as my main stack. Two extremes.
10.28.2013 Game 13519207 Another Private 1 Class. Noth that his dice were extreme but mine extreme bad. Round 15 he drop 18 troops + two villages. My main stack carry 16.
10.28.2013 Game 13519948 Another.
10.28.2013 Game 13519991 Yet another. And second in order. Second in order. Second in order.
10.29.2013 Game 13523253, Game 13523299, Game 13523352, Game 13523393, Game 13523515. X games in a row second in order.
10.29.2013 Game 13524200 One side dice on my disfavor.
10.31.2013 Game 13533139 What's scary. This guy actually even talk about dice in my favor. We've played some games. He just do it in game after game after game after game. But it's me that has the luck. I wonder what this guy are used to when it comes to luck.
11.01.2013 Game 13533421 Same as above.
11.01.2013 Game 13533732 Extreme one side dice in my disfavor.
11.02.2013 Game 13537676 OPPONENT complain about dice.
11.02.2013 Game 13539414 Complete unintresting game due one side dice. Second in order.
11.02.2013 Game 13539923 Same. One side dice in my disfavor. Second in order.
11.02.2013 Game 13540602 Another one. First in order but drop and one side dice in my disfavor.
11.02.2013 Game 13542074 I had 2-3 game balls but failed over and over. Second in order.
11.03.2013 Game 13544115 One side dice in my disfavor.
11.03.2013 Game 13544102 One side dice in my disfavor.
11.03.2013 Game 13544084 One side dice in my disfavor.
11.03.2013 Game 13544885 Extreme one side dice in my disfavor.
11.03.2013 Game 13545463 Extreme one side dice in my disfavor.
11.03.2013 Game 13545997 Extreme one side dice n my disfavor.
11.04.2013 Game 13548275 Extreme one side dice in my disfavor.
11.04.2014 Game 13548528 Top 10 most extreme one side dice in my disfavor.
11.04.2013 Game 13548542 Another. Second in order for both recent games.
11.04.2013 Game 13550201 Order, drop and extreme dice in my disfavor. This is the mantra in my classic polymorphic.
11.04.2013 Game 13550586 Drop, dice and order.
11.04.2013 Game 13550672 I had area bonus for 6 rounds. My opponent went for wrong target in the end game and save me the game. One side dice. I was even first in order. A mistake saved me.
05.11.2013 Game 13554481 Order, drop and dice in my disfavor. Opponent's area in first round 4v3 and no way in.
05.11.2013 Game 13554499 Another guy complaints about dice. I was first in order. Got area bonus in round 1 but still could not win.
05.11.2013 Game 13554622 First in order but drop and one side dice in my disfavor killed me in 1st round.
05.11.2013 Game 13555458 Drop, dice, order.
05.11.2013 Game 13555679 Drop and dice. First in order but opponents receive SA area bonus in round 2.

For Classic polymorhip the problem seem to be, well, dice and being dislocated. My opponents receive +2 area bonus from very early on in the games. There are no way to break in or fort troops in.

05.11.2013 Game 13555722 First in order. Good drop but complete dice fail. And. Of course all alright dice for my opponent.

05.11.2013 Game 13555800 First in order and opponent got both 3/4 of Ociania and SA. Very often the drop are reverse for me which mean St.holm Berlin fort and no Madrid Berlin + neutrals block the way in. However very hard to catch up with one side dice in my disfavor.
06.11.2013 Game 13557811 Same old story. I was first in order. Extreme dice in my disfavor. 1 tert left in round 3. 15 Yellow terts and I'm not even able to break Ociania bonus from Mumbai. Round 4 game.
11.06.2013 Game 13558888
11.06.2013 Game 13558797
11.06.2013 Game 13559378
11.07.2013 Game 13564400 Drop, dice, order
11.07.2013 Game 13564411 Drop, dice order
11.07.2013 Game 13564265 Drop, dice, order
11.07.2013 Game 13564455 Drop, dice, order
11.07.2013 Game 13564733 Second in order. Extreme one side dice in my disfavor. I don't understand how he did. He failed to break out in round 3 but I ran into several stacks and couldn't take either village or any castle. Xeu 10, Xeu village and Xeu 3. Round 8 and he still hadb't broken out of his second Kingdom.
11.07.2013 Game 13564782 Same guy. Me first in order. I don't get a grip what he's doing. I met 4 major stacks. Cen Village, Cen 1, Cen 13 and CR Castle. I managed to take 2 out of 4 major stacks. RoM break out with a 60 stack in round 9. I had singles only in Tri. I estimate top 10 two games in a row. Never seen before. This guy is really fun watch play. Also good in Classic poly. #1 player I've met.
11.07.2013 8 out of 12 speed games lost.
11.08.2013 Game 13566497 Drop, dice, order. Clustered in Africa and NA. Tried to target Yellow but one side dice in my disfavor. 8v3 came out 2v3 and game. I simply adore Classic poly 1v1! Best BS setting along with FE 1v1!
11.08.2013 Game 13566530 Drop, dice order.
11.08.2013 Game 13566568 Second in order.
11.08.2013 Game 13567936 Drop, dice, order. Opponents unbreakable Ociania in first move in first round. Bonus from round 2.
11.08.2013 Game 13567960 Order and dice. OK drop. Opponent receive Ociania bonus in round 2. I does by myself but rare. My opponents does in 2-3-4 out of 10 games.
11.08.2013 Game 13567997 Order. Dice saved me finally.
11.08.2013 Game 13568195 Order and dice.
11.08.2013 Game 13568326 Drop, dice and order.
11.08.2013 Game 13568334 Order
11.09.2013 Game 13569127 Raped by dice. Opponent 9v5. 1 loss. My 9v2. None. And on and on and on and on. Never witness anything like it. I had good control and YTFYUYI6&%eT5tUyi(988o(/G
11.08.2013 Game 13569198 Round 2. Unable to make assaults and unable to fort!? $25 a year is cheap. No wonder.
11.09.2013 Game 13570738 Drop, dice, order. Opponents area bonus in first attempt.
11.09.2013 Game 13570883 Drop, dice and order.
11.09.2013 Game 13572094 Drop and dice. First in order but opponent keep Ociania from first round.
11.09.2013 Game 13572130 First in order. Good drop. Raped by dice.

Re: Order in my games

PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 1:48 pm
by BigBallinStalin
You're not seeming to understanding what probability entails, and it doesn't seem like you've discovered what's wrong with your approach.

I wholeheartedly recommend you Schaum's Probabily and Statistics 2008, chapter 1. Do some of the problems too. It's free somewhere on the Internet.

Re: Order in my games

PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:31 pm
by Shannon Apple
If you could chart your entire game history, pretty sure your number of starts would even out somewhat to your number of times going second. It happens to us all where we get streaks of extreme bad luck. The bad ones are the most memorable.

Re: Order in my games

PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 5:36 pm
by Serbia
Why so pathetically whiny? I cannot be bothered to read this thread. OP, why bother playing if it bothers you so much?

Bollocks.

Re: Order in my games

PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:29 pm
by Dukasaur
I don't know. Sometimes when luck is tremendously bad it makes you feel better to do some bitching. I can certainly understand the basic motivation for the thread.

Re: Order in my games

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:18 am
by chang50
Dukasaur wrote:I don't know. Sometimes when luck is tremendously bad it makes you feel better to do some bitching. I can certainly understand the basic motivation for the thread.


Yeah but I'm guessing you're too mature to actually start crying like a three year old in public.....

Re: Order in my games

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 11:16 am
by Gilligan
Wait, you actually pay attention to this?

Re: Order in my games

PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 2:10 pm
by frankiebee
Just stop playing noobish maps on noobish settings and you might ever reach major again.

Re: Order in my games

PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:06 am
by BoganGod
frankiebee wrote:Just stop playing noobish maps on noobish settings and you might ever reach major again.


What???? He has reached major in the past?

Re: Order in my games

PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:21 am
by frankiebee
BoganGod wrote:
frankiebee wrote:Just stop playing noobish maps on noobish settings and you might ever reach major again.


What???? He has reached major in the past?


Yeah, but only because he had a streak of massive luck ;)

Re: Order in my games

PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:28 pm
by Artimis
frankiebee wrote:
BoganGod wrote:
frankiebee wrote:Just stop playing noobish maps on noobish settings and you might ever reach major again.


What???? He has reached major in the past?


Yeah, but only because he had a streak of massive luck ;)


That would explain why he is bitching so hard about the dice and other unpredictably determined factors in the game such as drop and turn order. If lt.Futt put half the energy he devotes to whining on the forum into improving his tactics instead he'd be a Brigadier by now. :roll:

lt.Futt is a cheap win. No wonder.

Re: Order in my games

PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 9:34 pm
by frankiebee
Artimis wrote:lt.Futt is a cheap win. No wonder.


Hahaha, classic :lol:

Re: Order in my games

PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:33 pm
by Mr Changsha
Poor OP! Sadly, this is just yet another of the 'he's been playing CC too much needs to take a break' type threads we see every once in a while.

So..stop playing CC for a while lt.futt. The CC demons are playing with your mind.

Re: Order in my games

PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 2:31 pm
by Fruitcake
I think you should all be kinder to dear futt. It is obvious to any one with eyes that he is suffering badly at the conspiracy against him.

I suggest a group hug with futt in the middle so he gets that warm fuzzy feeling especially if it is Changsha who happens to be the one pressed up behind him at the time of the hug.

Re: Order in my games

PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:01 am
by Agent 86
Fruitcake wrote:I think you should all be kinder to dear futt. It is obvious to any one with eyes that he is suffering badly at the conspiracy against him.

I suggest a group hug with futt in the middle so he gets that warm fuzzy feeling especially if it is Changsha who happens to be the one pressed up behind him at the time of the hug.



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