Conquer Club

Proposal: Annual Scoreboard

Talk about all things related to Conquer Club

Moderator: Community Team

Forum rules
Please read the community guidelines before posting.

Would you support an Annual Scoreboard

Poll ended at Sun Aug 14, 2022 12:37 am

YES
63
69%
NO
9
10%
Don't Care
19
21%
 
Total votes : 91

Re: Proposal: Annual Scoreboard

Postby Ark_Angel_NZ on Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:25 pm

ZaBeast wrote:I get that not everybody can commit to the game load and lenght of those tournaments, but we already have the championships that do a similar job


Thanks for letting me know, I wasn't aware of that.
Image
User avatar
General Ark_Angel_NZ
 
Posts: 17
Joined: Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:53 am
Location: Christchurch, NZ

Re: Proposal: Annual Scoreboard

Postby Donelladan on Tue Jun 28, 2022 2:39 am

TrafalgarLaw01 wrote:I take personal offense that you excluded me from top 10 - I'm pretty sure I have been top 10 all month


Well don't, it's not like I have any personal reason to exclude you.
I just misread the ranking, wasn't being very attentive when checking.
Image
User avatar
Colonel Donelladan
 
Posts: 3292
Joined: Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:48 am
3321738

Re: Proposal: Annual Scoreboard

Postby TrafalgarLaw01 on Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:35 am

Donelladan wrote:
TrafalgarLaw01 wrote:I take personal offense that you excluded me from top 10 - I'm pretty sure I have been top 10 all month


Well don't, it's not like I have any personal reason to exclude you.
I just misread the ranking, wasn't being very attentive when checking.


All good, I did supposed that happened
User avatar
General TrafalgarLaw01
 
Posts: 54
Joined: Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:43 pm
Location: Buenos Aires
3

Re: Proposal: Annual Scoreboard

Postby PureStink on Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:35 pm

I, for one, would love to see a conquer club world championship wherein players play a wide range of maps and settings, and the winner is declared the new conqueror =D>
User avatar
Corporal PureStink
 
Posts: 87
Joined: Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:05 am
Location: Saxi's taxi

Re: Proposal: Annual Scoreboard

Postby chanakam2020 on Sat Jul 02, 2022 3:12 pm

I like the idea.
But not as a replacement for current Monthly best performers and biggest Score Movers board.
Keep Monthly Scoreboard for more rapid and dynamic competitions.
.
Yearly scoreboard should be based on different formulas & requirements
Not just based on year beginning score and year end score.
.
If incorporated things such as number of map crossed within the year (beat at least 5 opponents in x number of maps within given year)
in to the score formula , then players will have to work throughout the year to get in to top rather than caring at their scores at the start of the period and at last couple of days of the period.
Image
Image
Image
User avatar
Major chanakam2020
Community Team
Community Team
 
Posts: 301
Joined: Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:12 am
542

Re: Proposal: Annual Scoreboard

Postby Extreme Ways on Sat Jul 02, 2022 4:05 pm

Cold take: with the variety in settings and maps CC offers, a ranking system is almost by definition either flawed, or exploitable. Most strong players will recognise whether someone is a strong player regardless of their rank. First and foremost, the easiest way to play your way to a higher score is by playing teamgames with lower-ranked players and playing their turn live with them. Essentially you are then playing something close to poly, but with an adjusted dscore.

The best indicator of 'strongest player' is probably in the Championships.
TOFU, ex-REP, ex-VDLL, ex-KoRT.
User avatar
Brigadier Extreme Ways
 
Posts: 1593
Joined: Sun Nov 19, 2006 10:02 am
2

Re: Proposal: Annual Scoreboard

Postby Hooch on Fri Jul 08, 2022 4:48 pm

Mad777 wrote:TG while we are gathering Community feedback, and in the event this comes live, I think we should pair it up with the suggestion of updating the Conqueror title requirement, there is good suggestion such a certain amount maps played (coding could use crossmap status level), and also a X amount of game played per month.

I do believe those 2 things are linked talking about top performer player(s).

I do value the Cross Map medal theory but why not align this with other Scoreboard rules?

Why not really shake it up?
https://www.conquerclub.com/public.php? ... scoreboard
*To Qualify for our Monthly Leaders and Most Improved Contests you need to complete a minimum of 20 scored games in the period and have a minimum score of 800 at the start of the period.
User avatar
Lieutenant Hooch
 
Posts: 311
Joined: Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:42 pm
Location: Wellington,New Zealand

Re: Proposal: Annual Scoreboard

Postby PureStink on Sat Jul 09, 2022 4:10 pm

What if every month we simply have a vote on who the best player is?
User avatar
Corporal PureStink
 
Posts: 87
Joined: Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:05 am
Location: Saxi's taxi

Re: Proposal: Annual Scoreboard

Postby josko.ri on Sat Jul 09, 2022 5:13 pm

PureStink wrote:What if every month we simply have a vote on who the best player is?

Then I would always win.
Image
User avatar
General josko.ri
 
Posts: 4187
Joined: Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:18 pm
355216962

Re: Proposal: Annual Scoreboard

Postby Hooch on Sat Jul 09, 2022 5:33 pm

PureStink wrote:What if every month we simply have a vote on who the best player is?

Great idea.
We have around 5000 members and right now only 57 have bothered to vote.

None of these Polls really meet quorum.
User avatar
Lieutenant Hooch
 
Posts: 311
Joined: Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:42 pm
Location: Wellington,New Zealand

Re: Proposal: Annual Scoreboard

Postby TeeGee on Sat Jul 09, 2022 10:42 pm

Hooch wrote:Great idea.
We have around 5000 members and right now only 57 have bothered to vote.

None of these Polls really meet quorum.


And of those 57, 12 don't care so only 45 actual votes so far .. Not enough for me to approach admins.

We do know only a small portion read the forums, and of those it looks like a good percentage don't care about the scoreboards.
Kotaro wrote:TG for site owner 2020

Image
User avatar
Major TeeGee
 
Posts: 6283
Joined: Sat Nov 11, 2006 5:07 pm
Location: Traversing the Multiverse, looking for a Yak with 3 ears

Re: Proposal: Annual Scoreboard

Postby Mad777 on Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:40 am

Another way to replace actual and upcoming scoreboard to be using a simple win count like 1 point per win, and a x minimum of map usages (20?) this will remove members attempted to play lower ranked and/or only playing their favorite map.

Each month member start at 0 and need to work the way up.
".....Under Phucumol treatment....."
https://youtu.be/zlusWzDY4qw
User avatar
Major Mad777
Community Coordinator
Community Coordinator
 
Posts: 9442
Joined: Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:21 am

Re: Proposal: Annual Scoreboard

Postby TrafalgarLaw01 on Sun Jul 10, 2022 9:16 am

Mad777 wrote:Another way to replace actual and upcoming scoreboard to be using a simple win count like 1 point per win, and a x minimum of map usages (20?) this will remove members attempted to play lower ranked and/or only playing their favorite map.

Each month member start at 0 and need to work the way up.


That would be a terrible idea, or how multiplayer games would count, also freemiums would have no chance unless they stick to short games, and it would encourage playing vs low ranked players cause it would be even less risk more reward.
User avatar
General TrafalgarLaw01
 
Posts: 54
Joined: Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:43 pm
Location: Buenos Aires
3

Re: Proposal: Annual Scoreboard

Postby Son!c on Sun Jul 10, 2022 12:07 pm

I don't really care about "monthly improved". Perhaps because im too new and still have to let "monthly improved importance" grow on me...

But Conqueror title that should be something to care about! And then it should be the best player annualy who holds that title. Not somebody who's hiding in the shadows for years and foes players that are better.

So annual scoreboard on the conqueror title please! ALSO the conqueror title should be a title that can be challenged like a world championship boxing title!

Because now it's a conqueror that can foe all the challengers???

#Foeing is NOT CONQUERING!
User avatar
Major Son!c
 
Posts: 56
Joined: Tue May 11, 2021 10:23 am

Re: Proposal: Annual Scoreboard

Postby jusplay4fun on Mon Jul 11, 2022 6:56 am

I do not know of a major sports championship awarded for "points only" such as most goals scored or most shots blocked. The Championship is decided by actual competition, and once in a while, the "best" team does not play its best and gets beaten by an "inferior" team.

The Title of Conqueror is viewed by many as a type of championship. It gets LOTS of attention and is listed at the top of the SCOREBOARD. I do not see where the winner of a "Championship Tournament" is listed on a regular basis and thus does not get the recognition or attention of the title Conqueror.

Chess comes close to a similarity to this game in some ways. They have a championship, about every 2years (now, apparently), conducted by FIDE (and likely disrupted by COVID). Now the guy with the highest score is USUALLY the guy who wins the Tournaments and, especially, the Championship TOURNAMENT. too. So, there is NO (major) controversy of who is called The Champion. He is indeed the World's Best Chess Player. You can look up the list of Champions (and yes, they have all been males, to the best of my knowledge).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Chess_Championship

Perhaps it is time to:

1) Change the title of Conqueror (as the Person with the Highest Score); OR

2) Change the way that the title of the Conqueror be awarded. I suggest that the title be earned by play in a tournament designated as THE "Championship Tournament."

3) Place on the Scoreboard page the winner of the "Tournament." I would go further and list ALL such winners for THE "Championship Tournament." (To create even more discussion, ask how far to go back and which Tournaments can be considered as worthy of being in the running for making that list?)

TBF, I will never become Conqueror here; I know that. When I first joined CC in 2013, I was amazed at how many REALLY good Risk players were here and how much better that they are than I am.

So, my apologies for not knowing the name(s) of the Championship Tournament(s). I would not last long in any such Tournaments. And yes, I could have put this in many other places and threads, but, at the moment, this seems to draw the most views and comments. And those who are serious about supporting this type of change seem to be reading this thread, too.

But the PASSIONS and arguments made about who is entitled to be CALLED The Conqueror suggests to me that CC needs to reconsider the ROLE and meaning (definition) of The Conqueror.

Does anyone want to guess how many clicks it took me to find this from the opening page?

https://www.conquerclub.com/public.php?mode=championships
JP4Fun

Image
User avatar
Lieutenant jusplay4fun
 
Posts: 4109
Joined: Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:21 pm
Location: Virginia

Re: Proposal: Annual Scoreboard

Postby artillery77 on Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:43 pm

Scoring Ideas:
Right now we have all time stats. Which is great, but there's a big difference between people that play lots of maps/setups vs just 1. I'd say keep that because it's always been here, but what would be pretty cool is getting a player's map score....or setup type score. Maybe even game stats such as dice effect during the game.

Map stats irrelevent to players would be kindof fun as well. The most landed on squares in Monopoly are the orange squares. What % of troops are assaulted vs bombarded in Waterloo? Might be interesting for mapmakers. Are there map functions that, at the end of the day....really don't get utilized?

Another take could be enjoyment. While everyone likes to win, getting behind in a trench hive or pacman map really isn't much fun. Frankly, it's annoying to finish off the win as well. Those nice balanced games that go back and forth are the fun ones....at least for me they are.

Anyway, just my .02. Remember, you can't manage what you don't monitor.
Lieutenant artillery77
 
Posts: 47
Joined: Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:04 am

Previous

Return to Conquer Club Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: madam_meow_meow