Conquer Club

if you are playing the classic map, first you must got aussie.
that is the main priority.
once you have aussie, put atleast 7 people in siam.
once you have aussie and atleast 7 people in siam, try to take brasil.
but make sure your bonus from aussie go's to siam each turn, until you have 15 people in siam.
once you have 15 people in siam and you own, aussie and brasil, work on eliminating people instead of taking countries...
that is probably the easiest way to win on classic....

if its an assassin game, take aussie and put 7 on siam. the do your best to stop everyone from gettin country bonuses, but exspecially your target from gettinr bonuses...
thats all folks

That's one way to do it.

My favorite way, is to kill everyone other than myself.

Well, people love to talk about all the ways besides holding Aussie, but, in reality, that's pretty much it. Take aussie. I got into an argument with MaDeFe some time ago where he was trying to say that Europe was as good a place to start as any (paraphrased of course), so I did a little study of games he'd played ('cause he's played a lot on that map). If I learned one thing from that study, it's the fact that the player who's first continent held was Aussie won vast majority of the games. It wasn't even close.

Frankly, this went against what I'd previously believed because I always thought SA, despite requiring two borders to secure the same bonus was better because of the expansion chances. I was wrong. Aussie in a total landslide.

yes. Small, easily defended bonuses are wonderful for winning games. However, there are a lot of games where continents of any size are death.

How to win 1v1 on Classic:

Get the better drop and the better dices than you opponent and you've won.

Done

Timminz wrote:yes. Small, easily defended bonuses are wonderful for winning games. However, there are a lot of games where continents of any size are death.

Just saying. I understand it's very uncool to admit things like, "dude who gains Aussie wins everytime". I mean, that's tantamount to admitting that we don't control our own fate. Thing is, the numbers don't lie. The dozens of games that I looked at were all played by players of decent rank and it was one after another after another. The player that won Aussie as their first bonus won all the freaking time.

1. If it's a 1v1, no don't go for Aussie unless there are 0 neutrals there.
2. If it's escalating, no don't go for Aussie.
3. Never just keep armies on Siam like this player suggested. Always, always have army opportunities to attack. If you have siam, you better make sure you don't have either india or china. I find it hilarious to find players that have China + India + a fwe other asian countries but leave like 6 armies on Siam.
4. If it's a speed freestyle don't worry about aussie at all.

So basically if you're playing a vast minority of classic games, not any of those I mentioned above, Aussie is only a good spot if you have the drop for it. Easily the most overrated place in Risk.

If you're playing an escalating game, then you'd know that while a bonus is nice, it is not necessary to win the game.

Timminz wrote:That's one way to do it.

My favorite way, is to kill everyone other than myself.

ahh now i know, thanks tim

t-o-m wrote:

Timminz wrote:That's one way to do it.

My favorite way, is to kill everyone other than myself.

ahh now i know, thanks tim

No problem. That's actually the only strategy that works on most maps.

If someone else takes oz, the remaining players owe it to themselves to remove all of that players other armies from the board.
Failure to do so will cost you dear.

Pedronicus wrote:If someone else takes oz, the remaining players owe it to themselves to remove all of that players other armies from the board.
Failure to do so will cost you dear.

i did that to oggiss - wow what a mood he got in

FabledIntegral wrote:1. If it's a 1v1, no don't go for Aussie unless there are 0 neutrals there.
2. If it's escalating, no don't go for Aussie.
3. Never just keep armies on Siam like this player suggested. Always, always have army opportunities to attack. If you have siam, you better make sure you don't have either india or china. I find it hilarious to find players that have China + India + a fwe other asian countries but leave like 6 armies on Siam.
4. If it's a speed freestyle don't worry about aussie at all.

So basically if you're playing a vast minority of classic games, not any of those I mentioned above, Aussie is only a good spot if you have the drop for it. Easily the most overrated place in Risk.

1) Unless there's another continent where it makes sense to attack neutrals, then that's no a reason against Aussie per se.
2) Ditto for escalating
3) I understand the folly in fortifying such a small bonus with massive armies but that doesn't, in itself have anything to do with why Aussie not being a great place to start.
4) Well, as lame as freestyle is, I'm sure freestyle speed is worse, so what difference does it make.

So, basically, you failed to make a decent point. Thanks for coming though.

i didnt say its the best way to win, i said its the best stratagy. i usually just work on countries by my drop. and half the time, i dont stratagize, i just play...
if i have no guys near aussie, and their's no easy access to it, im not going to waiste my guys going for it.
i would still put guys on siam if i had china and india, its better to not have them, but even if i had them id still put people on siam because they are there for defense only.
taking aussie is the most simplest way to win on classic usually, but not always.
i am just saying a stratagy for those who need help on aussie...
this sint my making it up to sound smart or cool, im juast saying what ive seen in real life and on CC.
dueces...

xerro wrote:if you are playing the classic map, first you must got aussie.
that is the main priority.
once you have aussie, put atleast 7 people in siam.
once you have aussie and atleast 7 people in siam, try to take brasil.
but make sure your bonus from aussie go's to siam each turn, until you have 15 people in siam.
once you have 15 people in siam and you own, aussie and brasil, work on eliminating people instead of taking countries...
that is probably the easiest way to win on classic....

if its an assassin game, take aussie and put 7 on siam. the do your best to stop everyone from gettin country bonuses, but exspecially your target from gettinr bonuses...
thats all folks

this is easily the worst strategy i've ever heard. this is how you REALLY win classic.

step 1: go for madagascar. if you don't have it, get it. even if it means fighting through 4 or 5 countries and takes as many turns, do it anyway. trust me, it's worth it.

step 2: drop on madagascar, then end turn. fortify as many as you can onto the island, but an make sure you have a way to attack out (prefereably south africa)

step 3: repear step 2, twice. (this means drop on maddy 3 times)

step 4: now you are ready to make your move. auto attack your way through africa, choosing your opponents at random. don't stop until you can't attack any more. if you have any other armies laying around on the map, now is the time to attack. show no mercy, attack to the last man! at the end of you turn, you should have a bunch of 1's on your territories.

step 5: congratulations! your opponents will now cower in fear at your take-no-prisoners attitude. they will shirk away from attack you for fear of retribution from your merciless armies, and will fight amongst themselves. enjoy this time to rebuild (this time on ontario. if you don't have ontario, follow step 1 guidelines for taking it)

step 6: wait until your enemies have killed each other off and 1 puny opponent is left. crush him with your massive canadian army (yeah i know it's an oxymoron), laughing all the way through his decimated armies

step 7. congratulations, you've just swept the board. be sure to put in lots of taunting and nasty remarks about your enemies' mothers in game chat, so that next time you play them they will fear your awesome power and unbeatable strategy even more!

step 8: celebrate! going into the gd forum and posting lots of threads about the quality of dice randomness, the abusive power of mods, and the stupidity of the new ratings sytem. this will make you very popular and cool.

bbqpenguin wrote:

xerro wrote:if you are playing the classic map, first you must got aussie.
that is the main priority.
once you have aussie, put atleast 7 people in siam.
once you have aussie and atleast 7 people in siam, try to take brasil.
but make sure your bonus from aussie go's to siam each turn, until you have 15 people in siam.
once you have 15 people in siam and you own, aussie and brasil, work on eliminating people instead of taking countries...
that is probably the easiest way to win on classic....

if its an assassin game, take aussie and put 7 on siam. the do your best to stop everyone from gettin country bonuses, but exspecially your target from gettinr bonuses...
thats all folks

this is easily the worst strategy i've ever heard. this is how you REALLY win classic.

step 1: go for madagascar. if you don't have it, get it. even if it means fighting through 4 or 5 countries and takes as many turns, do it anyway. trust me, it's worth it.

step 2: drop on madagascar, then end turn. fortify as many as you can onto the island, but an make sure you have a way to attack out (prefereably south africa)

step 3: repear step 2, twice. (this means drop on maddy 3 times)

step 4: now you are ready to make your move. auto attack your way through africa, choosing your opponents at random. don't stop until you can't attack any more. if you have any other armies laying around on the map, now is the time to attack. show no mercy, attack to the last man! at the end of you turn, you should have a bunch of 1's on your territories.

step 5: congratulations! your opponents will now cower in fear at your take-no-prisoners attitude. they will shirk away from attack you for fear of retribution from your merciless armies, and will fight amongst themselves. enjoy this time to rebuild (this time on ontario. if you don't have ontario, follow step 1 guidelines for taking it)

step 6: wait until your enemies have killed each other off and 1 puny opponent is left. crush him with your massive canadian army (yeah i know it's an oxymoron), laughing all the way through his decimated armies

step 7. congratulations, you've just swept the board. be sure to put in lots of taunting and nasty remarks about your enemies' mothers in game chat, so that next time you play them they will fear your awesome power and unbeatable strategy even more!

step 8: celebrate! going into the gd forum and posting lots of threads about the quality of dice randomness, the abusive power of mods, and the stupidity of the new ratings sytem. this will make you very popular and cool.

thats the worst stratagy ever unless your playing against noobs ..... any body with 2 sense would beat you in a sec.....

xerro wrote:

bbqpenguin wrote:

xerro wrote:if you are playing the classic map, first you must got aussie.
that is the main priority.
once you have aussie, put atleast 7 people in siam.
once you have aussie and atleast 7 people in siam, try to take brasil.
but make sure your bonus from aussie go's to siam each turn, until you have 15 people in siam.
once you have 15 people in siam and you own, aussie and brasil, work on eliminating people instead of taking countries...
that is probably the easiest way to win on classic....

if its an assassin game, take aussie and put 7 on siam. the do your best to stop everyone from gettin country bonuses, but exspecially your target from gettinr bonuses...
thats all folks

this is easily the worst strategy i've ever heard. this is how you REALLY win classic.

step 1: go for madagascar. if you don't have it, get it. even if it means fighting through 4 or 5 countries and takes as many turns, do it anyway. trust me, it's worth it.

step 2: drop on madagascar, then end turn. fortify as many as you can onto the island, but an make sure you have a way to attack out (prefereably south africa)

step 3: repear step 2, twice. (this means drop on maddy 3 times)

step 4: now you are ready to make your move. auto attack your way through africa, choosing your opponents at random. don't stop until you can't attack any more. if you have any other armies laying around on the map, now is the time to attack. show no mercy, attack to the last man! at the end of you turn, you should have a bunch of 1's on your territories.

step 5: congratulations! your opponents will now cower in fear at your take-no-prisoners attitude. they will shirk away from attack you for fear of retribution from your merciless armies, and will fight amongst themselves. enjoy this time to rebuild (this time on ontario. if you don't have ontario, follow step 1 guidelines for taking it)

step 6: wait until your enemies have killed each other off and 1 puny opponent is left. crush him with your massive canadian army (yeah i know it's an oxymoron), laughing all the way through his decimated armies

step 7. congratulations, you've just swept the board. be sure to put in lots of taunting and nasty remarks about your enemies' mothers in game chat, so that next time you play them they will fear your awesome power and unbeatable strategy even more!

step 8: celebrate! going into the gd forum and posting lots of threads about the quality of dice randomness, the abusive power of mods, and the stupidity of the new ratings sytem. this will make you very popular and cool.

thats the worst stratagy ever unless your playing against noobs ..... any body with 2 sense would beat you in a sec.....

nono trust me i'm a major, i would know. this works BETTER against higher ranked players, as they have more to lose from your victory and noobs are often too stupid to realize they should fear you!

thats the worst stratagy ever unless your playing against noobs ..... any body with 2 sense would beat you in a sec.....[/quote]


nono trust me i'm a major, i would know. this works BETTER against higher ranked players, as they have more to lose from your victory and noobs are often too stupid to realize they should fear you![/quote]


ok, i guess i see that strategy..... i understand the africa part, honestly its been used against me before and worked, but i dont understand why specifically ontario.... i think i see why the U.S. , but not why ontario....

Either people here have the driest sense of humor I've ever encountered, or there is a disconnection from recognizing sarcasm and bitter irony in certain posts.

Yvgni wrote:Either people here have the driest sense of humor I've ever encountered, or there is a disconnection from recognizing sarcasm and bitter irony in certain posts.

OK, somebody else said it first so I won't feel like such a dork for thinking the exact same thing.

ok, i guess i see that strategy..... i understand the africa part, honestly its been used against me before and worked, but i dont understand why specifically ontario.... i think i see why the U.S. , but not why ontario....

ontario is a great territory to own later in the game because it borders 6 territories, which gives you a lot of directions to attack. you can take your pick of who you want to eliminatre first, depending on what strategy dictates. also, for whatever reason, it's been shown that ontario (and also ural) have slightly better dice rolls when attacking other countries. no one can figure out why, but you tend to win almost 15% more when you're attacking from ontario than when you do from other countries

Timminz wrote:That's one way to do it.

My favorite way, is to kill everyone other than myself.

i prefer using lots of nuclear weapons. but be careful though. there's always a possibility that some sneaky bastard has some hidden. the trick is to get in first. oh yeah, it also helps to have an exit strategy up your sleeve in case it all turns to custard

lexie3000 wrote:

Timminz wrote:That's one way to do it.

My favorite way, is to kill everyone other than myself.

i prefer using lots of nuclear weapons. but be careful though. there's always a possibility that some sneaky bastard has some hidden. the trick is to get in first. oh yeah, it also helps to have an exit strategy up your sleeve in case it all turns to custard

lol

bbqpenguin wrote:

xerro wrote:if you are playing the classic map, first you must got aussie.
that is the main priority.
once you have aussie, put atleast 7 people in siam.
once you have aussie and atleast 7 people in siam, try to take brasil.
but make sure your bonus from aussie go's to siam each turn, until you have 15 people in siam.
once you have 15 people in siam and you own, aussie and brasil, work on eliminating people instead of taking countries...
that is probably the easiest way to win on classic....

if its an assassin game, take aussie and put 7 on siam. the do your best to stop everyone from gettin country bonuses, but exspecially your target from gettinr bonuses...
thats all folks

this is easily the worst strategy i've ever heard. this is how you REALLY win classic.

step 1: go for madagascar. if you don't have it, get it. even if it means fighting through 4 or 5 countries and takes as many turns, do it anyway. trust me, it's worth it.

step 2: drop on madagascar, then end turn. fortify as many as you can onto the island, but an make sure you have a way to attack out (prefereably south africa)

step 3: repear step 2, twice. (this means drop on maddy 3 times)

step 4: now you are ready to make your move. auto attack your way through africa, choosing your opponents at random. don't stop until you can't attack any more. if you have any other armies laying around on the map, now is the time to attack. show no mercy, attack to the last man! at the end of you turn, you should have a bunch of 1's on your territories.

step 5: congratulations! your opponents will now cower in fear at your take-no-prisoners attitude. they will shirk away from attack you for fear of retribution from your merciless armies, and will fight amongst themselves. enjoy this time to rebuild (this time on ontario. if you don't have ontario, follow step 1 guidelines for taking it)

step 6: wait until your enemies have killed each other off and 1 puny opponent is left. crush him with your massive canadian army (yeah i know it's an oxymoron), laughing all the way through his decimated armies

step 7. congratulations, you've just swept the board. be sure to put in lots of taunting and nasty remarks about your enemies' mothers in game chat, so that next time you play them they will fear your awesome power and unbeatable strategy even more!

step 8: celebrate! going into the gd forum and posting lots of threads about the quality of dice randomness, the abusive power of mods, and the stupidity of the new ratings sytem. this will make you very popular and cool.

lol

xerro wrote:ok, i guess i see that strategy..... i understand the africa part, honestly its been used against me before and worked, but i dont understand why specifically ontario.... i think i see why the U.S. , but not why ontario....

on any other type of game except escalating cards you're probably correct.

id rather not hold aussie in escalating cards because i dont care about a bonus and I'd rather not get suicided by someone because i hold a bonus.

most of the escalating games ive won on classic map i made no effort at all to take aussie. you basically have to be in a good position to take someone's cards and then immediately cash at round 7 or 8.