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Predictions for Worst N00b Farmers

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:54 am
by chipv
I've just been running through some last tests on a new stat in Map Rank which measures relative rank of defeated opponents.

The results are surprising.

I thought I'd like to see people's predictions before making this available out of interest...

So who are the worst offenders at n00b farming?

Re: Predictions for Worst N00b Farmers

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:56 am
by Kaplowitz
Klobber, JR

Re: Predictions for Worst N00b Farmers

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:57 am
by hwhrhett
chipv wrote:I've just been running through some last tests on a new stat in Map Rank which measures relative rank of defeated opponents.

The results are surprising.

I thought I'd like to see people's predictions before making this available out of interest...

So who are the worst offenders at n00b farming?


lol, awsome chip, whats mine???

Re: Predictions for Worst N00b Farmers

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:58 am
by White Moose
torcav2 and MOBAJOBG also

Re: Predictions for Worst N00b Farmers

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:05 am
by millertime13
is that what its called? Priceless, and a badge of shame should be given to all those who practice this method.

Want points? Earn them.

Re: Predictions for Worst N00b Farmers

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:08 am
by jiminski
sheese it's like watching the first season of Lost!
heh.. that programme really got my goat.. with all the stilted mystery and cliff-hanging manipulation! Please Tell us chip .. i can't bare the anticipation ;)

Re: Predictions for Worst N00b Farmers

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:11 am
by Bruceswar
Poor Maxastuy...

Re: Predictions for Worst N00b Farmers

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:12 am
by Joodoo
obviously KLOBBER :roll:

Re: Predictions for Worst N00b Farmers

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:40 am
by Bruceswar
Joodoo wrote:obviously KLOBBER :roll:



tbh klobber will not be at the top of this list. He does not play too many cooks... More ?'s which are 1000 unlike cooks who can be 500..

Re: Predictions for Worst N00b Farmers

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:00 am
by whitestazn88
klobber

Re: Predictions for Worst N00b Farmers

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:37 am
by KoE_Sirius
I disagree .KLOBBER is the best n00b farmer by far :)

Re: Predictions for Worst N00b Farmers

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:53 am
by richardgarr
I beleive KLOBBER is more of a noob mugger. He just lies in wait, and they stumble along into his alley way. Just like real muggers, there is no real intelligence or skill needed to profit . Just wait and hope you can get away with it.

To qualify as a farmer, you actually need some type of skills and planning. A person would need to be actively looking for noobs, and convincing them to join games that the farmer is sure to win, or the farmer may join games with all new players, then beating them senseless. I have witnessed a few people manipulate unsuspecting people into games that are clearly favored to the farmer. AoR and Fuedal are popular farming grounds. Freestyle and FoG games seem to be a popular tool amongst the farmers as well. Just sit in callouts some time, and you may witness the techniques and subtle manipulation, that goes into farming unsuspecting noobs.
:D :D 8-)

Re: Predictions for Worst N00b Farmers

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:42 pm
by Scott-Land
hwhrhett wrote:
chipv wrote:I've just been running through some last tests on a new stat in Map Rank which measures relative rank of defeated opponents.

The results are surprising.

I thought I'd like to see people's predictions before making this available out of interest...

So who are the worst offenders at n00b farming?


lol, awsome chip, whats mine???


Glad I got the ball rolling on this one Chip- I'm interested to know as well. Rabbit has to be one of them I would think. Err- 8 man public freestyle prolly has brought my average down too I bet.

Nice job-

Re: Predictions for Worst N00b Farmers

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:52 pm
by chipv
This thread has been made for a number of reasons aside from idle curiosity.

I think this is probably going to be one of the most unpopular statistics, having run this on a lot of people.

The numbers don't lie but some genuinely excellent top players will always suffer from always having to play
lower ranks, so I'm still thinking about how to shield this.

It's actually ready to go but I'm still a bit dubious about how it will be used...

Re: Predictions for Worst N00b Farmers

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 12:57 pm
by Scott-Land
chipv wrote:This thread has been made for a number of reasons aside from idle curiosity.

I think this is probably going to be one of the most unpopular statistics, having run this on a lot of people.

The numbers don't lie but some genuinely excellent top players will always suffer from always having to play
lower ranks, so I'm still thinking about how to shield this.

It's actually ready to go but I'm still a bit dubious about how it will be used...


As far as I'm concerned, I'd be happy if no Cooks or Chocolate Bars ever joined an 8 man game. They do more damage than anything- 3 points isn't worth the headaches. I'm sure I'll be called an elitist for this comment- it is what it is.

Re: Predictions for Worst N00b Farmers

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:05 pm
by RiskTycoon
Old McDonald had a farm E - I - E - I - O ... old McDonald had a farm E I E I nOob ! :lol: me ! it's me ! I'm a farmer ....

Re: Predictions for Worst N00b Farmers

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:08 pm
by Scott-Land
With great power comes great responsibility...... *Eagerly awaiting for Chip to press the Nuke button.*

Re: Predictions for Worst N00b Farmers

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:09 pm
by Frop
chipv wrote:This thread has been made for a number of reasons aside from idle curiosity.

I think this is probably going to be one of the most unpopular statistics, having run this on a lot of people.

The numbers don't lie but some genuinely excellent top players will always suffer from always having to play
lower ranks, so I'm still thinking about how to shield this.

It's actually ready to go but I'm still a bit dubious about how it will be used...

All the other threads are crap, this is going to be the best one to date! I'm guessing we'll see at least half of the top 50 listed, go get 'm! :D

Re: Predictions for Worst N00b Farmers

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:47 pm
by poo-maker
*eagerly awaits the new update*

JR, torcav, rabbiton, King_herpes, Klobber and maxatstuy are probably the worst offenders

I did have a quick look over scotts proposal thread.

chipv wrote:So Strength ratio = ratio of average rank of defeated opponents / target rank at game end time.

Is target rank your own rank? If it is, I'm bound to have a terrible strength ratio.

Re: Predictions for Worst N00b Farmers

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:50 pm
by KoE_Sirius
Scott-Land wrote:With great power comes great responsibility...... *Eagerly awaiting for Chip to press the Nuke button.*

Stealing Spiderman quotes lol

Re: Predictions for Worst N00b Farmers

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:52 pm
by BENJIKAT IS DEAD
poo-maker wrote:*eagerly awaits the new update*

JR, torcav, rabbiton, King_herpes, Klobber and maxatstuy are probably the worst offenders

I did have a quick look over scotts proposal thread.

chipv wrote:So Strength ratio = ratio of average rank of defeated opponents / target rank at game end time.

Is target rank your own rank? If it is, I'm bound to have a terrible strength ratio.


Just release it already chipv!! - very curious to see whether my personal assertion that I play a fair number of high ranked players is actually true!

Shouldn't strength ratio take account of the strength of your teammates too? - A brig and 3 cooks beating 4 cooks is very different from 4 brigs beating 4 cooks.

Re: Predictions for Worst N00b Farmers

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:55 pm
by chipv
poo-maker wrote:*eagerly awaits the new update*

JR, torcav, rabbiton, King_herpes, Klobber and maxatstuy are probably the worst offenders

I did have a quick look over scotts proposal thread.

chipv wrote:So Strength ratio = ratio of average rank of defeated opponents / target rank at game end time.

Is target rank your own rank? If it is, I'm bound to have a terrible strength ratio.


Yes, I had you in mind when I posted earlier when I checked your score (it's not that bad).

Tricky to solve - everyone is a lower rank than you so you are right!

But this was not always the case. The calculations measure the relative rank at game time.

I'll think of something for you.

Re: Predictions for Worst N00b Farmers

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:58 pm
by poo-maker
chipv wrote:
poo-maker wrote:*eagerly awaits the new update*

JR, torcav, rabbiton, King_herpes, Klobber and maxatstuy are probably the worst offenders

I did have a quick look over scotts proposal thread.

chipv wrote:So Strength ratio = ratio of average rank of defeated opponents / target rank at game end time.

Is target rank your own rank? If it is, I'm bound to have a terrible strength ratio.


Yes, I had you in mind when I posted earlier when I checked your score (it's not that bad).

Tricky to solve - everyone is a lower rank than you so you are right!

But this was not always the case. The calculations measure the relative rank at game time.

I'll think of something for you.

I see... Thanks for the quick reply.

Re: Predictions for Worst N00b Farmers

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:59 pm
by Kemmler
come on chip lol

Re: Predictions for Worst N00b Farmers

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 2:00 pm
by White Moose
Just a quick question.

Does this calculate the relative score of your opponent in the Calculation: |You Opponent's Points / Your Own Points|

or is it just an average of your opponents points by the time you beat them?