Conquer Club

I joined this site very recently, and have taken a look or two at the scoreboard since. From what I saw, it seems nearly impossible for me to become relatively good at this game.

I believe I can master the strategy enough to that I do not have to spend as much time planning my next move, and then having my plan destroyed half of the time, I also do not think that my first victory was based on skill. But with time, I will no doubt be able to master the game to some extent or other.

However, is it possible for someone who joined this site as late as I did to become relatively good at the game compared to the other members of the site. I see that there are some extraordinary members that have five times my current score, and I do not plan on ever achieving that level, and as far as I looked, every member had nearly double my score (I understand that it keeps on going down the farther and farther I go). And even by the time I hit the 1000th person, he/she was only one or two games short of doubling me.

So my question to all of you is this: Is there any hope in myself even trying to play for a high score (as is my competitive nature to do so), since so many people are above me already and will keep on raising their score while I raise mine? Or is it absolutely impossible for me to get to the top several percent and I should just not try?

Thank you for the answers in advance.

of course.... it took some of those players a year to make, and some only a couple of months... anyone can do it at any time

Well, looking at the top of the scoreboard probably wasn't a thrilling idea... It's not so much the points, it's that many of the people on the first page have over 500 games played.

No, you won't be able to shoot to the top of the scoreboard in a week, but it doesn't matter. If you're having fun and always improving your game, points will take care of themselves.

welcome

absolutely, anybody can climb the scoreboard within about 100 games if they try hard enough to learn from their losses.

It'll take some doing, but anyone can get up to the top! I don't know if you realise that you just beat a major, which is the top 5 or 10 % probably. Keep it up, and don't get discouraged if you lose a few in a row. It takes most players a good few games to get the hang of it.

As for advice you may want to wait for me to get my rank back, or take it from a higher rank!

Good luck at any rate

Joined the site with a name modeled after the latest map, and have won against a major on it already... fishy indeed...

Now, with that aside (for now...), I only have a few months head start on you, but if you can beat a member of T.H.O.T.A. in one of your first games, you will pass me by in less than 2 weeks no doubt.

roman imperium wrote:I also do not think that my first victory was based on skill.

Well, if you are that lucky, there is really no need for skill. A new recruit beats one of the best players on the site, shame. I would have thought that a major would have skill enough to win against a real recruit *wink* even with bad luck.

Trust me when I say, ...Wow!, since osujacket had bitten the dust in a 1vs1 sequential standard escalating chained FoW Imperium Romanum played against you.

And according to the Map-Maker qwert who has conjured up this map in his own words, ...

qwert wrote:well i play maybe 10 games, and from finished 500 games,so far nobody find any gameplay problem,and these game is very good balanced,because nobody can have any advantage in begining,and if you play without cards,then with bonus structure,where its not possible that in 2-3 turns get very large numbers of army(in some maps you can lost game because your opponent get very large ammount of army).

I think that 500 finished games,and withouth any detected problem,these map is pass test succesful

Note: Sorry for the numerous edit as I was experimenting with the color feature.

MOBAJOBG wrote:Trust me when I say, ...Wow!, since osujacket had bitten the dust in a 1vs1 sequential standard escalating chained FoW Imperium Romanum played against you.

Was there a need to list out the settings? But so true...

The Neon Peon wrote:

MOBAJOBG wrote:Trust me when I say, ...Wow!, since osujacket had bitten the dust in a 1vs1 sequential standard escalating chained FoW Imperium Romanum played against you.

Was there a need to list out the settings? But so true...

Yes, it's because I've something quite interesting to say further.

Welcome to CC.

Trust me when I say, ...it's never too late to join and climbing the ScoreBoard right to almost the top of it is rather Ez.

MOBAJOBG wrote:

The Neon Peon wrote:

MOBAJOBG wrote:Trust me when I say, ...Wow!, since osujacket had bitten the dust in a 1vs1 sequential standard escalating chained FoW Imperium Romanum played against you.

Was there a need to list out the settings? But so true...

Yes, it's because I've something quite interesting to say further.

Which is?

roman imperium wrote:I joined this site very recently, and have taken a look or two at the scoreboard since. From what I saw, it seems nearly impossible for me to become relatively good at this game.

I believe I can master the strategy enough to that I do not have to spend as much time planning my next move, and then having my plan destroyed half of the time, I also do not think that my first victory was based on skill. But with time, I will no doubt be able to master the game to some extent or other.

However, is it possible for someone who joined this site as late as I did to become relatively good at the game compared to the other members of the site. I see that there are some extraordinary members that have five times my current score, and I do not plan on ever achieving that level, and as far as I looked, every member had nearly double my score (I understand that it keeps on going down the farther and farther I go). And even by the time I hit the 1000th person, he/she was only one or two games short of doubling me.

So my question to all of you is this: Is there any hope in myself even trying to play for a high score (as is my competitive nature to do so), since so many people are above me already and will keep on raising their score while I raise mine? Or is it absolutely impossible for me to get to the top several percent and I should just not try?

Thank you for the answers in advance.

The truly good tend to avoid public games for many, many reasons.

As for the doubling the score, your wins are weighted so that when you beat a better player, you get more points and when you beat a lesser player, you win fewer. To go up faster, play better players. You will rise quickly until you get near the top. At that point, it becomes harder to gain points. Also, only a few losses will bring you down quite a bit. (a big reason why the best players play each other mostly ... though not the only reason)

So, when you joined really has little to do with it. What matters is your individual skill and willingness to learn. Then, if you are really out after points, there are some tricks. Look through forum threads and you will find plenty on those topics, so I won;t get into it further here.

BUT one thing... if you play, you go up AND down. Even the best player will lose due to pure luck on occasion (they are just able to turn that bad luck into decent plays more often). And, because the system is weighted, will go DOWN --a lot if it happens when you are playing a low cook. So, the only real way to keep your rank is to just play private games with high ranked players OR to just not play at all. Either way, you won't play as many games. It's a choice you have to make for yourself.

contact wacicha and join his cook school. you can learn very fast and climb the ranks relatively quickly...-0

PLAYER57832 wrote:

roman imperium wrote:I joined this site very recently, and have taken a look or two at the scoreboard since. From what I saw, it seems nearly impossible for me to become relatively good at this game.

I believe I can master the strategy enough to that I do not have to spend as much time planning my next move, and then having my plan destroyed half of the time, I also do not think that my first victory was based on skill. But with time, I will no doubt be able to master the game to some extent or other.

However, is it possible for someone who joined this site as late as I did to become relatively good at the game compared to the other members of the site. I see that there are some extraordinary members that have five times my current score, and I do not plan on ever achieving that level, and as far as I looked, every member had nearly double my score (I understand that it keeps on going down the farther and farther I go). And even by the time I hit the 1000th person, he/she was only one or two games short of doubling me.

So my question to all of you is this: Is there any hope in myself even trying to play for a high score (as is my competitive nature to do so), since so many people are above me already and will keep on raising their score while I raise mine? Or is it absolutely impossible for me to get to the top several percent and I should just not try?

Thank you for the answers in advance.

The truly good tend to avoid public games for many, many reasons.

As for the doubling the score, your wins are weighted so that when you beat a better player, you get more points and when you beat a lesser player, you win fewer. To go up faster, play better players. You will rise quickly until you get near the top. At that point, it becomes harder to gain points. Also, only a few losses will bring you down quite a bit. (a big reason why the best players play each other mostly ... though not the only reason)

So, when you joined really has little to do with it. What matters is your individual skill and willingness to learn. Then, if you are really out after points, there are some tricks. Look through forum threads and you will find plenty on those topics, so I won;t get into it further here.

BUT one thing... if you play, you go up AND down. Even the best player will lose due to pure luck on occasion (they are just able to turn that bad luck into decent plays more often). And, because the system is weighted, will go DOWN --a lot if it happens when you are playing a low cook. So, the only real way to keep your rank is to just play private games with high ranked players OR to just not play at all. Either way, you won't play as many games. It's a choice you have to make for yourself.

I love this advice: He can't start private games, and no one is going to accept a new recruit into their own private games. Although I agree with the rest of the advice. Also, if you want to play some really high ranked players and try your luck again, make 2 player public games when any of the farmers guild are online, they will fill that slot up in a second. (joking, but still true)

so this guy isnt a multi? Sorry if you arent. But let me layout the reasons.

-- His name sounds like one of our (new) maps [I wouldnt be so supicious if he called himself "Classic"]
-- he plays only on that map
-- He defeated osujacket (who, unlike many majors, can actually play)


Again, apologies if I am wrong.

Also, keep in mind that many of the top players (counting by the scoreboard) got there through niche mastery. If you really want to climb the ladder, find one type of game, maybe two maps, get really, really good at that game type on that/those maps, and play that game a LOT. It's not a policy I espouse, but it does work.

waseemalim wrote:so this guy isnt a multi? Sorry if you arent. But let me layout the reasons.

-- His name sounds like one of our (new) maps [I wouldnt be so supicious if he called himself "Classic"]
-- he plays only on that map
-- He defeated osujacket (who, unlike many majors, can actually play)


Again, apologies if I am wrong.

im callin multi as well... he failed on a fake thread terribly

it took me 4 months to hit 2998 sence then i am now on my 7 month and been over 2500 8 times

PLAYER57832 wrote:The truly good tend to avoid public games for many, many reasons.

Maybe you mean the truely paranoid who worry way too much about their rank avoid public games, because any "truely good" player has no fear of losing. They have enough confidence in their aquired abilities to prevail on any map or game setting of their choosing... and there is no shortage of "truely good" players participating in public games.

roman impirium if you are already obcessing about points and rank I recommend quitting now, but if you enjoy playing the maps on this site, rock on! Have fun playing, your tactics/skills will improve and before you know it will be on page one of the scorebored.

Your name...?

The Neon Peon wrote:Joined the site with a name modeled after the latest map, and have won against a major on it already... fishy indeed...

Funny how this got overlooked. Anyways, took the liberty of summing up the arguments in here.

It doesn't matter when you start- eventually everyone hits a brick wall... some sooner than others.

good luck

I smell a multi... hmmm.

yes, you joined too late. Too late for my love.

Fircoal wrote:yes, you joined too late. Too late for my love.

Get out.