Conquer Club

time and time again i either have the worst luck or its common to lose 12 men to just 1 over and over.i say fix the dice rolls.Well my 2 cents

you should have saved your 2 cents and bought a 2 cent stamp

You should use Dice Analyzer. That way, you've got proof. Myself, I can see that since the last time my Dice Analyzer was reset (due to clearing cookies or some such), I've only won 33,6% of my 3v2's, instead of the expected 37,17%. I've also got worse than expected stats in 3v1, 2v2 (not a whole lot of those), 1v1 (or those) and 1v2 (those too). On the plus side, I've won more 2v1's than expected. Yay.

I can also see that my least thrown dice are 4 and 6, and the defenders least thrown dice are 1 and 2.

Incidentally, I've dropped over 200 points in that period, and keep falling.

FML.

Some games,the dice just WILL NOT let you win.There should be a surrender option in the game to let you bail out.make your armies neutral.

Goldbar wrote:Some games,the dice just WILL NOT let you win.

I'm afraid that's all part of the game, and we've all experienced it at some point, try playing team games or games which require more skill. Welcome to CC.

Goldbar wrote:There should be a surrender option in the game to let you bail out.make your armies neutral.

This has been suggested before and will not be happening.

JoshyBoy wrote:

Goldbar wrote:There should be a surrender option in the game to let you bail out.make your armies neutral.

This has been suggested before and will not be happening.

i love when the jr. mod squad flexes their muscles and are 100 percent incorrect. it was IMPLEMENTED before, abused, trashed by lackattack and thus will not be coming back... i know we can't expect all our mods to know everything, but they should fact check before they speak from a point of authority because some of us are infallible and do know all... the black jesus has spoken...-the black jesus

owenshooter wrote:

JoshyBoy wrote:

Goldbar wrote:There should be a surrender option in the game to let you bail out.make your armies neutral.

This has been suggested before and will not be happening.

i love when the jr. mod squad flexes their muscles and are 100 percent incorrect. it was IMPLEMENTED before, abused, trashed by lackattack and thus will not be coming back... i know we can't expect all our mods to know everything, but they should fact check before they speak from a point of authority because some of us are infallible and do know all... the black jesus has spoken...-the black jesus

I fail to see where I made an error. I said it has been suggested, which it has, and it will not be happening. Thanks for clarifying the details of the situation though owen, much appreciated.

Actually.. he was 100 percent correct. He stated it had been suggested, and rejected. both very true facts... just because he didn't add a history book doesn't make him wrong...

It's all manipulated randomness.

I've had 3 losses land with another dozen about to hit.

This happens when the random crap drops and zero team dice can't compete with the opponents do as they wish and win every freaking roll games.

Hey CC how about instead of the bull shit, when someone joins my games, you just send them a pm informing them that they have just been "Awarded some free jefjef" points and stop wasting my fucking time.

rutuki wrote:time and time again i either have the worst luck or its common to lose 12 men to just 1 over and over.i say fix the dice rolls.Well my 2 cents

If they "fixed" the rolls so you always won 12 v 1... that wouldn't be very random now would it...

FireStar wrote:Actually.. he was 100 percent correct. He stated it had been suggested, and rejected. both very true facts... just because he didn't add a history book doesn't make him wrong...

he is wrong. the button existed. it was removed. deal with it... please explain to me how is 100 percent correct? had he stated that lack made the button and removed it because of abuse, and despite multiple requests/suggestions for it to come back, it wont, he would be correct. but he didn't. and he didn't know it existed. he should learn the facts before he speaks from a point of authority when his points are severely lacking in correctness... the black jesus has spoken...-the black jesus

He is 100 percent correct because everything he said was true. Simple as that.

jefjef wrote:It's all manipulated randomness.

I've had 3 losses land with another dozen about to hit.

This happens when the random crap drops and zero team dice can't compete with the opponents do as they wish and win every freaking roll games.

Hey CC how about instead of the bull shit, when someone joins my games, you just send them a pm informing them that they have just been "Awarded some free jefjef" points and stop wasting my fucking time.

I wouldn't worry too much about it, you're colonel and obviously can get back after those losses. Whining is pointless and gets you nowhere.

maasman wrote:

jefjef wrote:It's all manipulated randomness.

I've had 3 losses land with another dozen about to hit.

This happens when the random crap drops and zero team dice can't compete with the opponents do as they wish and win every freaking roll games.

Hey CC how about instead of the bull shit, when someone joins my games, you just send them a pm informing them that they have just been "Awarded some free jefjef" points and stop wasting my fucking time.

I wouldn't worry too much about it, you're colonel and obviously can get back after those losses. Whining is pointless and gets you nowhere.

What do you know? Now lick my boots.

FireStar wrote:

rutuki wrote:time and time again i either have the worst luck or its common to lose 12 men to just 1 over and over.i say fix the dice rolls.Well my 2 cents

If they "fixed" the rolls so you always won 12 v 1... that wouldn't be very random now would it...

There were one or two suggestions recently for making less random dice including one idea for "one for one" ie. a 6 v 3 would result in 3 left for the attacker, or a 12 v 2 would result in 10 left.

Loads of interesting ideas, but the point of CC is that the intensity cubes are as "random" as possible. We all experience extreme dice, both good and bad, at some point.

JoshyBoy wrote:

Goldbar wrote:There should be a surrender option in the game to let you bail out.make your armies neutral.

This has been suggested before and will not be happening.

This(in reference to what Goldbar was referring to) has been suggested (people have suggested it in the past... yes indeed they have...) and will not be happening( there are several verbs there... but it is referring to the future..)

seeing as how this suggestion was just denied in the forums everything he said appears to be accurate.

niMic wrote:You should use Dice Analyzer. That way, you've got proof. Myself, I can see that since the last time my Dice Analyzer was reset (due to clearing cookies or some such), I've only won 33,6% of my 3v2's, instead of the expected 37,17%. I've also got worse than expected stats in 3v1, 2v2 (not a whole lot of those), 1v1 (or those) and 1v2 (those too). On the plus side, I've won more 2v1's than expected. Yay.

I can also see that my least thrown dice are 4 and 6, and the defenders least thrown dice are 1 and 2.

Incidentally, I've dropped over 200 points in that period, and keep falling.

FML.

Over a very long time these may be bad numbers.

Without knowing when u last cleared your cookies this comment is moot.

Over a couple months these are not unrealistic.

Goldbar wrote:Some games,the dice just WILL NOT let you win.There should be a surrender option in the game to let you bail out.make your armies neutral.

Bad idea... Been banged around before.

Suck it up.

jefjef wrote:It's all manipulated randomness.

This is awesome.

Jef.. Can I make this my signature?

Dice bitch thread #2... Just need one more.

jimboston wrote:

jefjef wrote:It's all manipulated randomness.

This is awesome.

Jef.. Can I make this my signature?

You can stick it in your ass for all I care...

it's funny your no rank rookie smug ass thinks you know something.

I'm on a 15 game CC random NO dice sucking of points. It will take me 40 wins to recoup it. Yes I believe this shit is manipulated. It sure as hell isn't random.

JoshyBoy wrote:

FireStar wrote:

rutuki wrote:time and time again i either have the worst luck or its common to lose 12 men to just 1 over and over.i say fix the dice rolls.Well my 2 cents

If they "fixed" the rolls so you always won 12 v 1... that wouldn't be very random now would it...

There were one or two suggestions recently for making less random dice including one idea for "one for one" ie. a 6 v 3 would result in 3 left for the attacker, or a 12 v 2 would result in 10 left.

Loads of interesting ideas, but the point of CC is that the intensity cubes are as "random" as possible. We all experience extreme dice, both good and bad, at some point.

Thats a good idea and i have thought of it before but i didnt even dare to suggest it, i thought it wouldnt be worth a thing, since it basically change some of the roots of this game.
But imagine that, we deploy the first 3 armies and can be sure to take 1 territory, no more will u spend round 1 with 1 spoil less then the others well of course the last army would have to still be random but i dont care as long as my 30v2 no longer become 1v1 but 29v1!
Besides when that first roll fails, specially when first deployment is like 5 armies making a territory with 8 v 3 and become 1v3, many people go suicide, attacking with all armies 3v3 until 1 territory is taken, it happens a lot not even taking 1 army!!

jefjef wrote:You can stick it in your ass for all I care...

it's funny your no rank rookie smug ass thinks you know something.

I'm on a 15 game CC random NO dice sucking of points. It will take me 40 wins to recoup it. Yes I believe this shit is manipulated. It sure as hell isn't random.

Oh jefjef, will you ever learn.

jefjef wrote:

jimboston wrote:

jefjef wrote:It's all manipulated randomness.

This is awesome.

Jef.. Can I make this my signature?

You can stick it in your ass for all I care...

it's funny your no rank rookie smug ass thinks you know something.

How does this look Jef?

The Karmic Dice Theory declares that the amount one bitches about dice correlates directly to the amount of bad dice one gets.