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Ron is a guest? WTF!

PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:41 pm
by Artimis
I'm guessing that someone didn't like the tone of his posts in this thread:
Subject: spam spam and more spam

Can we get confirmation on this please?

Re: Ron is a guest? WTF!

PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:58 pm
by Army of GOD
His name is Ron?

I thought it was short for Ronco...I want the rotisserie oven!!

Re: Ron is a guest? WTF!

PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:33 pm
by Artimis
Army of GOD wrote:His name is Ron?

I thought it was short for Ronco...I want the rotisserie oven!!

I'm referring to ronc8649

And arbitrarily moved to Turtle Soup in 3...... 2...... 1.............

Re: Ron is a guest? WTF!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:24 am
by Bones2484
People miss Ron? Could have fooled me.

Maybe it was this one?

Re: Ron is a guest? WTF!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:44 am
by Artimis
Bones2484 wrote:People miss Ron? Could have fooled me.

Maybe it was this one?


Unlikely, that post is 3 days old, if they were going to take exception to it then the Mods would have banned him there and then on the same day.

Re: Ron is a guest? WTF!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:04 am
by Woodruff
Artimis wrote:
Bones2484 wrote:People miss Ron? Could have fooled me.

Maybe it was this one?


Unlikely, that post is 3 days old, if they were going to take exception to it then the Mods would have banned him there and then on the same day.


This of course presumes they saw it three days ago.

Re: Ron is a guest? WTF!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:36 am
by 4myGod
Ron was banned for how long?

Re: Ron is a guest? WTF!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:52 am
by Timminz
Artimis wrote:
Bones2484 wrote:People miss Ron? Could have fooled me.

Maybe it was this one?


Unlikely, that post is 3 days old, if they were going to take exception to it then the Mods would have banned him there and then on the same day.


Not necessarily. If he did something more recently that pissed off a mod/admin, or made them look foolish, they could very well have gone back through his post history to find the most recent one that they might be able to punish him for.

It has happened before.

Re: Ron is a guest? WTF!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:47 am
by Artimis
4myGod wrote:Ron was banned for how long?


From what I've gathered so far, it's a 30 day ban. To say that he's pissed would be an understatement. :(

Re: Ron is a guest? WTF!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:54 am
by 4myGod
My gosh, what will they do next?

Re: Ron is a guest? WTF!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:25 am
by nagerous
Simple, don't flame and don't get banned - not a hard policy to follow.

Re: Ron is a guest? WTF!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:34 am
by Mr Changsha
Artimis wrote:
4myGod wrote:Ron was banned for how long?


From what I've gathered so far, it's a 30 day ban. To say that he's pissed would be an understatement. :(


I read most of the posts in GD, sugs and bugs and cheating and abuse and haven't seen anything to warrant a ban from him.

However, he has been fairly vocal in his criticism of the admins so I'd guess they found something fairly innocuous (the post mentioned might well be it) and banned him for that.

Nice.

It is terrribly sad to watch intellectual inferiors attempt to joust with their betters, realise they are getting spanked, and so decide to close down the debate through censorship. Like many others I can barely be bothered to even try, other than to every couple of days assert that it is all an ultra-religious conspiracy to presecute the liberal minded in CC Land . And I only do that because I know it must piss them off...just a little.

So owen's at 30 days, as is jbrettlip, general stoneham, pimpdave and now ron. Clever insightful posters to a man...too clever by half for OP and Andy it would seem.

Re: Ron is a guest? WTF!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:35 am
by Mr Changsha
nagerous wrote:Simple, don't flame and don't get banned - not a hard policy to follow.


1 flame = 30 days? Do you agree with that nagerous?

Re: Ron is a guest? WTF!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:41 am
by nagerous
Mr Changsha wrote:
nagerous wrote:Simple, don't flame and don't get banned - not a hard policy to follow.


1 flame = 30 days? Do you agree with that nagerous?


I think it was more than one flame, ronc made a flame in the cheating and abuse thread and also flamed me in his other thread... That and he also has a history of making flames out of flame wars, I do not have the time to count them all but I think it would be misleading to say ronc made one flame and instantly received a 30 day ban. In fact I thought he had already received a 30 day for his racism towards owenshooter so shouldn't he be on a perma now?!

Re: Ron is a guest? WTF!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:32 am
by clapper011
remember..its the new minor/major infractions now for punishments.

Re: Ron is a guest? WTF!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:44 am
by GENERAL STONEHAM
Three strikes and you're OUT! So, if a felon spits on the sidewalk, he deserves life in prison?

Re: Ron is a guest? WTF!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:34 am
by Mr Changsha
nagerous wrote:
Mr Changsha wrote:
nagerous wrote:Simple, don't flame and don't get banned - not a hard policy to follow.


1 flame = 30 days? Do you agree with that nagerous?


I think it was more than one flame, ronc made a flame in the cheating and abuse thread and also flamed me in his other thread... That and he also has a history of making flames out of flame wars, I do not have the time to count them all but I think it would be misleading to say ronc made one flame and instantly received a 30 day ban. In fact I thought he had already received a 30 day for his racism towards owenshooter so shouldn't he be on a perma now?!


You seem far too comfortable about another poster having their forum rights (+ pming ability, viewing profiles...) taken away on the whim of an admin with effectively no recourse.

'Shouldn't he be on a perma now?!'


I would say, as a pretty good rule of thumb, if neither I, nor you, nor anyone else in this thread has any idea what Ron is supposed to have done to get a 30 day ban, then he probably didn't do anything to deserve it. I think we'd know if he'd done something REALLY BAD right?

It seems that you've accepted the validity of a banning system which very few other regular posters here agree with.

Why?

In my view it is a complete nonesense to ban a paying customer of this site for 30 days when he has obviously not done anything (at least recently) to deserve such a harsh punishment. It is frankly not good enough for you to write (effectively) that 'we have this system so he got a 30 day ban' unless you are prepared to state that you are in complete agreement with the current escalating system.

So, are you?

Re: Ron is a guest? WTF!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:38 am
by 4myGod
Mr Changsha wrote:So owen's at 30 days, as is jbrettlip, general stoneham, pimpdave and now ron. Clever insightful posters to a man...too clever by half for OP and Andy it would seem.


Owenshooter is on 30? Jeez.

Re: Ron is a guest? WTF!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:39 am
by Bones2484
4myGod wrote:
Mr Changsha wrote:So owen's at 30 days, as is jbrettlip, general stoneham, pimpdave and now ron. Clever insightful posters to a man...too clever by half for OP and Andy it would seem.


Owenshooter is on 30? Jeez.


I'm just shocked that Ron is being included in this group. His posts are never insightful. Never witty. Never humorous by any means.

They look to be written by someone with anger issues that has absolutely no filter from their brain to their fingers.

Re: Ron is a guest? WTF!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:42 am
by the.killing.44
f*ck.

Re: Ron is a guest? WTF!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:44 am
by 4myGod
Bones2484 wrote:
4myGod wrote:
Mr Changsha wrote:So owen's at 30 days, as is jbrettlip, general stoneham, pimpdave and now ron. Clever insightful posters to a man...too clever by half for OP and Andy it would seem.


Owenshooter is on 30? Jeez.


I'm just shocked that Ron is being included in this group. His posts are never insightful. Never witty. Never humorous by any means.

They look to be written by someone with anger issues that has absolutely no filter from their brain to their fingers.


I enjoyed reading his posts. You don't think it would be funny to listen to someone who had anger issues and no filter from their brain to their fingers? I would find it hilarious.

Either way, he had problems with the punishment system here like most of the people in that group, so this is why he was included in the group.

Re: Ron is a guest? WTF!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:46 am
by Bones2484
4myGod wrote:Either way, he had problems with the punishment system here like most of the people in that group, so this is why he was included in the group.


I was referring to "Clever insightful posters", not them all being at the same ban length.

Re: Ron is a guest? WTF!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:50 am
by 4myGod
Bones2484 wrote:
4myGod wrote:Either way, he had problems with the punishment system here like most of the people in that group, so this is why he was included in the group.


I was referring to "Clever insightful posters", not them all being at the same ban length.


Fair enough, I haven't read enough of his posts to argue that.

Re: Ron is a guest? WTF!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:52 pm
by nagerous
Mr Changsha wrote:
nagerous wrote:
Mr Changsha wrote:
nagerous wrote:Simple, don't flame and don't get banned - not a hard policy to follow.


1 flame = 30 days? Do you agree with that nagerous?


I think it was more than one flame, ronc made a flame in the cheating and abuse thread and also flamed me in his other thread... That and he also has a history of making flames out of flame wars, I do not have the time to count them all but I think it would be misleading to say ronc made one flame and instantly received a 30 day ban. In fact I thought he had already received a 30 day for his racism towards owenshooter so shouldn't he be on a perma now?!


You seem far too comfortable about another poster having their forum rights (+ pming ability, viewing profiles...) taken away on the whim of an admin with effectively no recourse.

'Shouldn't he be on a perma now?!'


I would say, as a pretty good rule of thumb, if neither I, nor you, nor anyone else in this thread has any idea what Ron is supposed to have done to get a 30 day ban, then he probably didn't do anything to deserve it. I think we'd know if he'd done something REALLY BAD right?

It seems that you've accepted the validity of a banning system which very few other regular posters here agree with.

Why?

In my view it is a complete nonesense to ban a paying customer of this site for 30 days when he has obviously not done anything (at least recently) to deserve such a harsh punishment. It is frankly not good enough for you to write (effectively) that 'we have this system so he got a 30 day ban' unless you are prepared to state that you are in complete agreement with the current escalating system.

So, are you?


You can play around with my words as much as you want and no I don't agree with the escalating system. In fact I am pretty anti the whole escalating banning system and have made many posts evidencing this if you wish to search hard my 6000 posts here, I'm sure you will find plenty where I make my feelings quite clear. I however believe that the character in question here is not just your average witty poster like Dancing Mustard, who's ban was a complete travesty but he is more similar to Norse, who frankly deserved to be banned considering some of the stuff he used to write in the forums. Ronc has had many warnings.. and has done many things, I can't give you a list of all the things he has done but I do know some of his history and it isn't pleasant. Paying customer or not, if bans were not given out on occasion there would be anarchy. I know you're angry but so am I. We're no strangers to love, you know the rules and so do I. A full commitment's what I'm thinking of. You wouldn't get this from any other guy. I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling. Gotta make you understand. We've known each other for so long. Your heart's been aching, but you're too shy to say it. Inside we both know what's been going on. We know the game and we're gonna play it and if you ask me how I'm feeling don't tell me you're too blind to see. Never gonna give you up. Never gonna let you down. Never gonna run around and desert you. Never gonna make you cry. Never gonna say goodbye. Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you

Re: Ron is a guest? WTF!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:47 pm
by Artimis
nagerous wrote:You can play around with my words as much as you want and no I don't agree with the escalating system. In fact I am pretty anti the whole escalating banning system and have made many posts evidencing this if you wish to search hard my 6000 posts here, I'm sure you will find plenty where I make my feelings quite clear. I however believe that the character in question here is not just your average witty poster like Dancing Mustard, who's ban was a complete travesty but he is more similar to Norse, who frankly deserved to be banned considering some of the stuff he used to write in the forums. Ronc has had many warnings.. and has done many things, I can't give you a list of all the things he has done but I do know some of his history and it isn't pleasant. Paying customer or not, if bans were not given out on occasion there would be anarchy. I know you're angry but so am I. We're no strangers to love, you know the rules and so do I. A full commitment's what I'm thinking of. You wouldn't get this from any other guy. I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling. Gotta make you understand. We've known each other for so long. Your heart's been aching, but you're too shy to say it. Inside we both know what's been going on. We know the game and we're gonna play it and if you ask me how I'm feeling don't tell me you're too blind to see. Never gonna give you up. Never gonna let you down. Never gonna run around and desert you. Never gonna make you cry. Never gonna say goodbye. Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you


Careful now, no rehashing the past, he's made a promise not to cross that particular red line ever again and he is sticking to it. Personally I think you were baiting him on purpose in Subject: spam spam and more spam with that post, you KNOW exactly what Ron is like and how easy it is to provoke the hot tempered sod. Yet you continued to push all his buttons, which makes your obvious baiting all the more damning.


Bones2484 wrote:I'm just shocked that Ron is being included in this group. His posts are never insightful. Never witty. Never humorous by any means.

They look to be written by someone with anger issues that has absolutely no filter from their brain to their fingers.


Two words for you: Personal Bias

I will not contest the existence of his anger issues or the lack of a filter between his brain and his fingers. However, Ron does have his lucid moments when he can gather his will to focus past the red haze obscuring his vision.