Mr Changsha wrote:porkenbeans wrote:These are NOT the top 10 players. They are only the top 10 in points. Most of them have earned their points by farming newbies fresh off the boat. They have no idea of freestyle or clicky maps etc...
It is like shooting fish in a barrel.
Hell I see one guy that won over 200 straight games doing this.If you are really interested to find out who the best players are, install Map Rank, and check out their average rank opponents. This will give you a better understanding of who the best players are. I see a couple of players among this list that are indeed very good players, but the rest are just noob farmers.

I suspect you mean the no.2 Rabbiton. Currently playing with him, and I have to say, never have I played with/against someone who has made me feel so amateurish. Absolutely top class player.
Map Rank only goes so far..it is a great guide to the relative strength of an opponent on a particular map or style, but the equaliitarian tag is the irrelevence I have always said it is. I myself am beginning to drop below 0.8, and I rarely play anyone below a captain, in fact I always try and play the best opposition I can. Yet on current form I'll be in the noob farmer category..yet it means nothing, other than that I am struggling to find players of my level who can play my styles effectively, or have the interest in playing my styles.
However, you are right to the extent that the Top 10 may not be the best ten players...but so what? This is hardly a revelation! You have to be playing for points to reach the top 10 and a lot of the truly best have dropped out of it due to a lack on interest in being over say 3,000 points. But I would venture that most of the truly great CC players have made the top 10 at one time or another. I would certainly say that at some point I myself would like to try and get there and consider it at least a part of what makes a great CC player.
But go back to your 1vs1 games...which are the real standard by which all great CC players should be judged...!
I know what you mean by it being hard to keep your RR up as you move up in rank. Especially when you start public games, as I do. My RR has dropped to .90 as a result. Still an EQ. but I can certainly see myself dropping off of EQ status sooner or later. I have always said that the cut off points should be re-evaluated. The stats are indeed the true story. They are after all only a compilation of various facts. It is those facts and how to interpret them that Map Rank tries to address. Chip has done a great service to players by attempting to do this. However, as has been pointed out before, As a player gets toward the top of the leaderboard, it is increasingly harder to maintain an EQ status.
Are there truly good top players on the leaderboard, that are below EQ ? ... Of course there are. I think that the formula should be upgraded to take this fact into account. A separate sliding scale for each rank should be worked out. So for example a sergeants cut off for EQ should be much higher than a Generals. A Generals cut off should be somewhere around .50 or .60.
We all know that some have made it all the way to the top slot by playing only noobs. This is a feat in itself I guess, and I believe that it takes a good player to do this, but most good players would not want to play so many games with so little challenge.
Alas we are all still left with the question, WHO IS THE BEST RISK PLAYER ?
I wished that we all had this answer. Is it King Herp ? It may be. I will admit that he IS the best "CC" player, but is he the best RISK player ? If you ask him he will say, there is no such thing as the best RISK player. I disagree. I think that CC will eventually evolve, and a better scoring system will emerge. One that better ranks a players skill at the game of RISK. Not the game within a game of beating the system by playing noobs.
I wished that we all would come together to actually calmly discuss just how this could be accomplished. Maybe enough time has passed that this subject could be looked at once more. If not, that is OK with me. But I predict that it will eventually be a time at CC when it will seriously be discussed. However, I will NOT be holding my breath.
