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The current conquerers are over rated

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:45 pm
by azezzo
just finished Game 5808086 with conquerer demonfork, well he was the conquerer when the game started. Now king Herpes is back in the #1 spot. After beating demonfork at his own game, at his own settings, he foes me for taking 52 points from him. Back when lackattack took away the ability to double turn Demonfork screamed bloody murder, well look at the scoreboard now its below 4900 points a dramatic drop from the peak of 6358. So this is how the big boys play (and I include herpes in this) they foe anyone who shows the ability to beat them, look at their games, there is a disproportionate number of games with low ranking players.

The scoreboard is over inflated, the scoreboard leaders continue to find ways to creatively farm, be it by playing team games against low ranks to specializing in obscure maps that the inexperienced players have little to no chance of winning.

Re: The conquerers are over rated

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:50 pm
by Scott-Land
That's a racist comment-- bigotry, stereotypical, judgmental! Not all Conquerors are over-rated. Please fix your title, I'm offended! Now where's that blessed report a post button?

Re: The conquerers are over rated

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:58 pm
by Skittles!
Scott-Land wrote:That's a racist comment-- bigotry, stereotypical, judgmental! Not all Conquerors are over-rated. Please fix your title, I'm offended! Now where's that blessed report a post button?

I just clicked it.

Re: The current conquerers are over rated

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:25 pm
by ljex
scoot land he says the current conquerors how long has it been since you were conqueror. Also the 3 and 4 players are closing on demonfork and king herpes and both of them don't farm so lets hope one of them becomes conqueror.

Re: The current conquerers are over rated

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:45 pm
by Scott-Land
ljex wrote:scoot land he says the current conquerors how long has it been since you were conqueror. Also the 3 and 4 players are closing on demonfork and king herpes and both of them don't farm so lets hope one of them becomes conqueror.


It's been 8 months, 12 days , 6 hours since I've had the pleasure of holding that glorious red balloon. Counting the minutes until I can get it back and show everyone who she belongs to. Saddest day of my life when I could no longer retain the Conqueror title. :cry:

Thanks for changing the title Azzezzo-- I feel much better not being associated with the likes of Herpes and Demon!

Re: The current conquerers are over rated

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:05 pm
by Timminz
Azezzo, the problem is not with the players who manage to master the meta-game. The problem is that you misunderstand the significance of the scoreboard.

Re: The current conquerers are over rated

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:43 pm
by madmom
I have never understood people who obsess over rank and points so much as to foe another because that person outplayed them and won... they must not have much else going on in real life. It's just a game, and in the end, will anyone remember or even care who the "conqueror of Conquer Club" was??? Remember the Joker, "Why so serious? Put a smile on that face!" And I would add... there are more noble things or titles to achieve in life than that of conqueror.

Re: The current conquerers are over rated

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:48 pm
by demonfork
madmom wrote:I have never understood people who obsess over rank and points so much as to foe another because that person outplayed them and won... they must not have much else going on in real life. It's just a game, and in the end, will anyone remember or even care who the "conqueror of Conquer Club" was??? Remember the Joker, "Why so serious? Put a smile on that face!" And I would add... there are more noble things or titles to achieve in life than that of conqueror.


Azzezo was foed because he is a dope, had nothing to do with beating be. I'm not sure why he came off my foe list in the first place.

I could have won that game had I delayed longer but I was half curious to see if he had been waiting around refreshing the screen for 2 hours.

WTG Gary!!! nice win guy!

Re: The current conquerers are over rated

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:06 pm
by azezzo
demonfork wrote:
madmom wrote:I have never understood people who obsess over rank and points so much as to foe another because that person outplayed them and won... they must not have much else going on in real life. It's just a game, and in the end, will anyone remember or even care who the "conqueror of Conquer Club" was??? Remember the Joker, "Why so serious? Put a smile on that face!" And I would add... there are more noble things or titles to achieve in life than that of conqueror.


Azzezo was foed because he is a dope, had nothing to do with beating be. I'm not sure why he came off my foe list in the first place.

I could have won that game had I delayed longer but I was half curious to see if he had been waiting around refreshing the screen for 2 hours.

WTG Gary!!! nice win guy!


game chat:

2009-10-24 14:00:06 - demonfork: gl Gary, thanks for joining ( o )( o )
2009-10-24 14:01:24 - azezzo: gary? you mean mike dont you
2009-10-24 18:29:28 - azezzo: thanks 4 the game

the ego of this narcissist is contemptable i entered this game knowing full well how fast he was and that he used delay tactics to win, he seems to enjoy winning 4 points a game on city mogul against privates

2009-10-24 14:44:18 - King_Herpes: He doesn't mean it when he says good luck.
2009-10-24 14:44:42 - King_Herpes: What he means is, you're a sucker because this map involves no luck whatsoever and he's going to delay you in order to win
2009-10-24 14:45:05 - King_Herpes: That's why he texted in a pair of breasts, because he has no respect for you.
2009-10-24 14:52:33 - King_Herpes: And he called you Gary on purpose
2009-10-24 14:52:59 - King_Herpes: He's an undermining player, he thinks he's the best just because he's conqueror

Re: The current conquerers are over rated

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:07 pm
by demonfork
azezzo wrote:
demonfork wrote:
madmom wrote:I have never understood people who obsess over rank and points so much as to foe another because that person outplayed them and won... they must not have much else going on in real life. It's just a game, and in the end, will anyone remember or even care who the "conqueror of Conquer Club" was??? Remember the Joker, "Why so serious? Put a smile on that face!" And I would add... there are more noble things or titles to achieve in life than that of conqueror.


Azzezo was foed because he is a dope, had nothing to do with beating be. I'm not sure why he came off my foe list in the first place.

I could have won that game had I delayed longer but I was half curious to see if he had been waiting around refreshing the screen for 2 hours.

WTG Gary!!! nice win guy!


game chat:

2009-10-24 14:00:06 - demonfork: gl Gary, thanks for joining ( o )( o )
2009-10-24 14:01:24 - azezzo: gary? you mean mike dont you
2009-10-24 18:29:28 - azezzo: thanks 4 the game

the ego of this narcissist is contemptable i entered this game knowing full well how fast he was and that he used delay tactics to win, he seems to enjoy winning 4 points a game on city mogul against privates

2009-10-24 14:44:18 - King_Herpes: He doesn't mean it when he says good luck.
2009-10-24 14:44:42 - King_Herpes: What he means is, you're a sucker because this map involves no luck whatsoever and he's going to delay you in order to win
2009-10-24 14:45:05 - King_Herpes: That's why he texted in a pair of breasts, because he has no respect for you.
2009-10-24 14:52:33 - King_Herpes: And he called you Gary on purpose
2009-10-24 14:52:59 - King_Herpes: He's an undermining player, he thinks he's the best just because he's conqueror


Best of luck to ya Billy <3

Re: The current conquerers are over rated

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:10 pm
by Georgerx7di
azezzo wrote:
demonfork wrote:
madmom wrote:I have never understood people who obsess over rank and points so much as to foe another because that person outplayed them and won... they must not have much else going on in real life. It's just a game, and in the end, will anyone remember or even care who the "conqueror of Conquer Club" was??? Remember the Joker, "Why so serious? Put a smile on that face!" And I would add... there are more noble things or titles to achieve in life than that of conqueror.


Azzezo was foed because he is a dope, had nothing to do with beating be. I'm not sure why he came off my foe list in the first place.

I could have won that game had I delayed longer but I was half curious to see if he had been waiting around refreshing the screen for 2 hours.

WTG Gary!!! nice win guy!


game chat:

2009-10-24 14:00:06 - demonfork: gl Gary, thanks for joining ( o )( o )
2009-10-24 14:01:24 - azezzo: gary? you mean mike dont you
2009-10-24 18:29:28 - azezzo: thanks 4 the game

the ego of this narcissist is contemptable i entered this game knowing full well how fast he was and that he used delay tactics to win, he seems to enjoy winning 4 points a game on city mogul against privates

2009-10-24 14:44:18 - King_Herpes: He doesn't mean it when he says good luck.
2009-10-24 14:44:42 - King_Herpes: What he means is, you're a sucker because this map involves no luck whatsoever and he's going to delay you in order to win
2009-10-24 14:45:05 - King_Herpes: That's why he texted in a pair of breasts, because he has no respect for you.
2009-10-24 14:52:33 - King_Herpes: And he called you Gary on purpose
2009-10-24 14:52:59 - King_Herpes: He's an undermining player, he thinks he's the best just because he's conqueror


This is pretty funny.

Re: The current conquerers are over rated

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:44 pm
by hahaha3hahaha
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Re: The current conquerers are over rated

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:18 pm
by the.killing.44
This post has already been reported.

Nice. Kudos Skitterz!

Re: The current conquerers are over rated

PostPosted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:40 pm
by spicyblue
It's very simple... if you want the title, then you NEED to foe people who can beat you at your own game. Why are you even surprised?

Re: The current conquerers are over rated

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:27 am
by King_Herpes
Lies and slander.

Re: The current conquerers are over rated

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:58 am
by General Brewsie
Thoughts while passing a quiet Sunday early morning:

I used to be one of the teeming masses of CC point-mongers, going out of my way to try to win games for the sake of getting more points and climbing the rank ladder. After reading the postings in this topic and seeing where this mentality leads I have reassessed my methods and goals.

I have decided that I no longer want to strive to learn all the tricks it takes to achieve the top rank. Why would anyone who wants to retain his integrity and self respect want to lower himself to that level, anyway?

Instead, I prefer to subscribe to madmom's philosophy of playing for the fun of it, the social interaction and the challenging way to kill a few hours of relaxation. I cannot deny the elementary truth in what she says about no one at the end of the road looking back and saying "I wish I'd been like King Herpes or one of the others who achieved the fleeting distinction of being CC Conqueror."

Re: The current conquerers are over rated

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:43 am
by jaseleo
you just gave me a 1 star rating herpes for beating you at doubles....again!

no doubt you have foed me as well :lol:

Re: The current conquerers are over rated

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:45 am
by demonfork
General Brewsie wrote:Thoughts while passing a quiet Sunday early morning:

I used to be one of the teeming masses of CC point-mongers, going out of my way to try to win games for the sake of getting more points and climbing the rank ladder. After reading the postings in this topic and seeing where this mentality leads I have reassessed my methods and goals.

I have decided that I no longer want to strive to learn all the tricks it takes to achieve the top rank. Why would anyone who wants to retain his integrity and self respect want to lower himself to that level, anyway?

Instead, I prefer to subscribe to madmom's philosophy of playing for the fun of it, the social interaction and the challenging way to kill a few hours of relaxation. I cannot deny the elementary truth in what she says about no one at the end of the road looking back and saying "I wish I'd been like King Herpes or one of the others who achieved the fleeting distinction of being CC Conqueror."


Typical loser attitude.

Re: The current conquerers are over rated

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:46 am
by King_Herpes
jaseleo wrote:you just gave me a 1 star rating herpes for beating you at doubles....again!

no doubt you have foed me as well :lol:


You autoed a 15 with a 4 and won. You don't deserve to play anybody ever again. I think that's in the Bible somewhere.

Re: The current conquerers are over rated

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:57 am
by White Moose
I love that both demonfork and King_Herpes have me foed.

The only reason can be that i win against them in 1v1 speed games.

Re: The current conquerers are over rated

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:12 am
by King_Herpes
White Moose wrote:I love that both demonfork and King_Herpes have me foed.

The only reason can be that i win against them in 1v1 speed games.


No it's not that, I just really don't like ping pong.

Re: The current conquerers are over rated

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:14 am
by alster
King_Herpes wrote:
White Moose wrote:I love that both demonfork and King_Herpes have me foed.

The only reason can be that i win against them in 1v1 speed games.


No it's not that, I just really don't like ping pong.


Nah. Looks like penis-eny to me. Seriously fellas, his account-name is associated with a moose, how could you possibly expect to compete with that?

Re: The current conquerers are over rated

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:16 am
by King_Herpes
alstergren wrote:
King_Herpes wrote:
White Moose wrote:I love that both demonfork and King_Herpes have me foed.

The only reason can be that i win against them in 1v1 speed games.


No it's not that, I just really don't like ping pong.


Nah. Looks like penis-eny to me. Seriously fellas, his account-name is associated with a moose, how could you possibly expect to compete with that?


You got me. It's definitely a case of penis-eny.

Re: The current conquerers are over rated

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:17 am
by White Moose
alstergren wrote:
King_Herpes wrote:
White Moose wrote:I love that both demonfork and King_Herpes have me foed.

The only reason can be that i win against them in 1v1 speed games.


No it's not that, I just really don't like ping pong.


Nah. Looks like penis-eny to me. Seriously fellas, his account-name is associated with a moose, how could you possibly expect to compete with that?


haha, good one alstergren xD

Re: The current conquerers are over rated

PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:29 am
by Mr Changsha
It is a bit of a shame that CC doesn't have a conqueror that either plays standard games against high level competition or plays trips and quads against well-matched oppostion.

It seems that standard escalating players cannot get beyond 3,500 (at least sequentially, though the freestyle speed 8 mans did allow + 5,000 scores...why aren't these games still being played? Weren't all those players blocked?), while the standard trips/quads players also struggle to get beyond 4,000 as well.

So we are left with the freestyle 1vs1 merchants. I'm sure they are perfectly capable of remaining +3,500 playing 'more legitimate' styles, but they can make these scores from freestyle 1vs1's so they do.

Human nature.

But it is, as I said, a shame.

However I am not sure it really matters in the great scheme of things. For most of CC, being on the first page is a solid indicator of skill, making 3,000 a genuine achievement. If one player makes 3,000 from playing freestyle 1vs1 and another does it from standard escalating 6-8 man games, they may have same scoreboard position but it is up to us to decide who is the more talented player.

Subjective of course.

So just as we must consider the score as well as how it was achieved for any player we encounter, so we must do the same when judging a field marshall or a conqueror. Some have been more deserving than others and some have therefore got more respect than others for their achievement.